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#1: We need to get our QBOF in 2026, not 2027. Ain't no way I'm keeping Monti and Gannon around several more years to THEN give them several more years with a new QB. If they can't find success, and soon (this season, for me), then bye bye.

#2: Gannon took the job. IDGAF why, and I don't blame him for doing it, but we can't pretend he wasn't married to Kyler when he took the job. Tough ish to Gannon that it didn't work out. Just because it's obvious you should take a head coaching job doesn't absolve you from the results.
Agreed, the fact that Jacoby can run the offense competently makes him the perfect stop gap for a rookie QB to develop under the wings of hopefully our new OC next year. When Jacoby ceiling isn’t good enough (which I think the majority of us can realize isn’t very high) we will hopefully be ready to unleash the young blood
 

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I think the foot injury is just a convenient excuse. If it's a 4-8 week recovery, why wasn't he put on IR?
Total smoke screen. It’s painfully obvious that anyone can see through unless you are taking a strong shot of denial. They are trying to tip toe keeping trade value for Kyler in the likely event we move off him while not fully committing to Jacoby if he flops
 

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32 isn't old far as today's quarterbacks go plus brissett doesn't have a lot of miles on him
True but there’s a reason he’s has so little mileage. Teams have considered him to start, but he’s always fallen short. He’s decent, but not special. That makes him the perfect backup.
 

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At the moment, my thought process is to bring Brissett back next season and start drafting quarterbacks that slide out of the first round of the draft until they find one. Select one every draft until they hit pay dirt.
May not have to go out of round one. Someone may drop to the Cards.
 

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Those two are massive long shots. I will say, Lance was way better than he's ever been this preseason. I think Harbaugh's presence has been huge for his development.
Still very weak technique-wise.
 

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True but there’s a reason he’s has so little mileage. Teams have considered him to start, but he’s always fallen short. He’s decent, but not special. That makes him the perfect backup.
im down with brissett until he starts playing like a back up again - looks like he's figured something out tho probably from watching kyler scramble so unnecessarily

i didn't expect brissett to be this fearless and efficient so i honestly don't know what to expect going forward
 

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Let’s be honest. He was never going back to Murray for the Seattle game. What sense would it make to send a guy out there who hasn’t played in a month & who’s nursing a foot injury against maybe the best defense in the NFL? Especially with how bad our OL is. This decision isn’t rocket science. Let’s just hope Brissett doesn’t get hurt.
There are plenty of coaches who believe you do not lose your starting position due to injury. That's what was so frustrating about Gannon responding to reporter's - like a robot - "If Kyler's healthy, he starts." when asked about Kyler and Jacoby.
 

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Total smoke screen. It’s painfully obvious that anyone can see through unless you are taking a strong shot of denial. They are trying to tip toe keeping trade value for Kyler in the likely event we move off him while not fully committing to Jacoby if he flops

Both could be true, no? If they are dragging out his injury that only hurts his value. If they were serious about benching him, why not put on IR and avoid the controversy? What are they gaining from these decisions if it's pure deception?

Unless they truly thought they'd get a bite at trade deadline, which I'd have to think they knew they wouldn't.
 

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It's not going to get easier. Teams will just make them cut him.
They’re not going to cut him. The “dead money” /cap hit is major. With all the get rid of K1 narrative here, I don’t understand why the $$$ ramification is being ignored. That hit is sizable in 2026 as well. At least according to “Over the Cap”
 

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Did they get held at gunpoint when it came to choosing the job or something?
there wasnt a line out the door for JG's services. You take the job then deal with the roster. He dealt with KM to the point he didnt have to anymore

Im sure Bidwill told them, you have to make this work with Murray, he is our QB1 making big money
 

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we are seeing real time examples of quarterbacks that were awful all of a sudden becoming franchise quarterbacks. Nobody thought Sam Darnold or Daniel Jones would become competent quarterbacks, much less very good quarterbacks. It is not out of the realm of possibility to think Jacoby could become an adequate starter for the next couple years.
 

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Darnold & Jones are not 33 years old and been with six different teams in the last six seasons. I like Brissett but there’s a reason he’s a career back up. Not a guy to hang your hat on as a starter past this season. Just my thoughts.
 

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Darnold & Jones are not 33 years old and been with six different teams in the last six seasons. I like Brissett but there’s a reason he’s a career back up. Not a guy to hang your hat on as a starter past this season. Just my thoughts.
If he plays the rest of the season with the same results that he has the last three games you almost have to have him as you’re starter next year….. sure you still draft a quarterback. But I would say he would’ve earned it.
 

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If he plays the rest of the season with the same results that he has the last three games you almost have to have him as you’re starter next year….. sure you still draft a quarterback. But I would say he would’ve earned it.
Obviously. Geno Smith was also 32 when he became the Seahawks starter. That said, they got just two more seasons from him before moving on and now he looks pretty washed.
 

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Obviously. Geno Smith was also 32 when he became the Seahawks starter. That said, they got just two more seasons from him before moving on and now he looks pretty washed.
Absolutely….
 

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#1: We need to get our QBOF in 2026, not 2027. Ain't no way I'm keeping Monti and Gannon around several more years to THEN give them several more years with a new QB. If they can't find success, and soon (this season, for me), then bye bye.

#2: Gannon took the job. IDGAF why, and I don't blame him for doing it, but we can't pretend he wasn't married to Kyler when he took the job. Tough ish to Gannon that it didn't work out. Just because it's obvious you should take a head coaching job doesn't absolve you from the results.
I think Gannon and MO HAD to be married to Kyler if for no other reason because of the contract and salary cap. If he went into that meeting an they told Bidwill there would be an open competition at QB they would never have gotten the job.
They knew it was going to be that way for the near future.
The first hint of the crack in the commitment to Kyler came this off season when we signed Brissett to a TWO year contract. No more Tune or Ridder type backups.
We’ll never know but MO and JG knew they were going to have to role with Murray for a couple of years while attempting to build the roster.
Those handcuffs were compliments of Kiem and Bidwill.

Now, we are not bad enough( at least not yet) to draft very high. So I see two options.
Go a bit crazy in free agency to fill out the holes and trade a bunch of picks to get or QBOF. Or stick with Brissett (or the likes of) and bolster our needs through the draft and a less aggressive free agency frenzy.

What options do you see?
 

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Total smoke screen. It’s painfully obvious that anyone can see through unless you are taking a strong shot of denial. They are trying to tip toe keeping trade value for Kyler in the likely event we move off him while not fully committing to Jacoby if he flops
I actually think this staff is embracing Brissett based on his operation of the offense.
 

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Darnold & Jones are not 33 years old and been with six different teams in the last six seasons. I like Brissett but there’s a reason he’s a career back up. Not a guy to hang your hat on as a starter past this season. Just my thoughts.
I don’t know. We hitched our wagon on Kyler’s wagon for a whole. How did that work out?
 

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This was the right thing to do. I have no idea of JB is going to regress into what his career has shown before. However, right now, JB is the best QB for this offense based on the last few games. He joins Lomax, Palmer and Warner as the only QB's throwing for 65% with a combo of yardarage/TD production in a 3 game spread. Kyler has not accomplished that.

JB could just be playing out of his mind and above his ability. You have to go with him and ride it out. We have a 7 year sample size with Kyler. He can't see the field. He would never make some of the throws that JB did standing in the pocket. We need to move on from Kyler and start searching for the future QB after the season. There is going to be some team that thinks they can get the most out of Kyler.
 

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True but there’s a reason he’s has so little mileage. Teams have considered him to start, but he’s always fallen short. He’s decent, but not special. That makes him the perfect backup.

He's playing far better football that he has ever played. His last 2 passer ratings were top 10 in his career and the only two back to back.

We've seen QB's find the right situation at the right time and just click.
 

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Big fan of resigning Jacoby as our stopgap for th rookie QB we would draft this year.

He signed a 2 year contract so the Cardinals at least have him for at least one more year. However I wouldn't mind tacking on another year if he continues to lead the offense in the right direction. I see Brissett as a Josh McCown bridge type of QB. He is a stable force on the offense that helps to win games but won't win games by himself.
 

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#1: We need to get our QBOF in 2026, not 2027. Ain't no way I'm keeping Monti and Gannon around several more years to THEN give them several more years with a new QB. If they can't find success, and soon (this season, for me), then bye bye.

#2: Gannon took the job. IDGAF why, and I don't blame him for doing it, but we can't pretend he wasn't married to Kyler when he took the job. Tough ish to Gannon that it didn't work out. Just because it's obvious you should take a head coaching job doesn't absolve you from the results.

I don't think the Cardinals have to take the QBOF in 2026 Draft. Next year's QB class is pretty week IMO. However, Gannon does need to show that his staff can win games next season. The Cardinals need to be in Playoff contention at a minimum next season no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Otherwise it will be time to look for a new regime.
 

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