JB NAMED AS CARDS STARTER!!!!

[AZ Native]

What's been impressive about Brissett is his ball placement. He's at 6 passing TD's and only 1 INT, and that INT should have been a penalty. I don't recall any passes that the opposition have had a chance at playing, his passes are always on the money.

He has the lowest INT percentage of any QB in NFL history.

What I see from him that I didn't see with Kyler is that he can throw guys open. JMHO

 

[oaken1]

Might not have much choice because the draft class looks pretty weak for immediate starters (I wouldn't mind a punt on Allar or Nussmeier who have been limited by bad coaching changes) and FA is also weak. It's not going to be easy to get a new starter next season.

nothing wrong with the 26 draft class...just like all the rest it has multiple flavors that will do the job...teams need to decide which flavor works best for them.
the reason the 83 draft is widely considered the best QB draft of all time is..because it is..but also because its rare for a high number of top quality QB's to be available in a single draft.
the thing is...Elway, Marino, Kelly...they all look like hall of famers now....but they really didnt in 1982...they had their warts...

but in the 26 draft we have two prototypes in Mendoza and Allar..both have the physical tools, can make all the passes, have solid arm talent, and appear to have the gears between the ears to make the machine work. widely different situations, with Mendoza looking like a day one starter and Allar suffering from a serious coaching deficit... but in the right situation either/both of those guys can/should have great careers in the NFL.

then there is a bevy of other guys who are not prototypes...they bring more intangibles to their new teams...a couple of them may need to ride the bench for a season before starting as well...but they can still be successful. I wouldnt be shocked to see 5 quarterbacks get picked in the first round in 2026.....and I wouldnt be shocked to see one fall all the way to 32 and a few years later be in the MVP hunt just like Lamar Jackson did.
dont forget...lots of "experts" dogged buffalo for drafting Josh Allen...."accuracy is not a correctable issue" is a long standing fact in NFL circles...and Allen couldnt hit the broad side of a barn if he was standing inside it while in college. Now Buffalo looks like an organization run by a genius as they got a guy on track for a hall of fame type career, just like they did back in 1983.

one thing is certain...every year we hear, " This draft is the best QB draft in 20 years!"...orr..." this draft really suxx for the quarterback position"...and every year...the pundits are usually wrong..someone who gets over drafted turns out to be really good...and a guy who should set the league on fire turns out to just be human.

the talent is there to be had. The trick is in matching the talent with the situation...and then not rushing it. The one thing that ruins a quarterbacks career more than any other factor is impatience.

 

[Russ Smith]

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Posted this in the K1 debate thread. The numbers say it all really.

Yeah the 2 key stats are the YPA and the 3rd down conversion percentage. There's a bunch more but the YPA is because JB pushes the ball downfield and Kyler wasn't. And the 3rd down is obvious we stay on the field. I would argue SOME of that is the run game got better when when Will H got back but so 3rd down and distance was shorter but mainly it's because JB has just been better on 3rd down.

3 games was clearly enough IMO to see the difference in the offense is tangible.

 

[Russ Smith]

One of the things on JB and I mentioned this for years with McNabb, when he misses he tends to miss low. McNabb was famous for worm burners. It looks bad but from an INT % it's a good thing. Missing high or wide left or right results in picks, missing low or short doesn't, at least not very often. That 4th down miss to Marv was the classic example of that it sucked it wasn't complete but if you're going to miss that throw, he missed in the safe place.

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

I don't think the Cardinals have to take the QBOF in 2026 Draft. Next year's QB class is pretty week IMO. However, Gannon does need to show that his staff can win games next season. The Cardinals need to be in Playoff contention at a minimum next season no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Otherwise it will be time to look for a new regime.

Not sure you are going to find a half way decent OC who’s job description is “hey- this regime is on thin ice and has one more year unless you perform miracles, oh - also you QB is Jacoby Brissett.

We gotta draft someone. There is no Andrew luck or burrows in this class, but there are some decent kids with excellent potential, and the nfl has proven time and time again they have no idea what makes a great QB at the college level

 

[AZ Native]

No one can accurately predict a QB class as being weak. Too many variables.

 

[MrYeahBut]

I'm late to the party... Who will JB back up?

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Jacoby Brissett lowers his interception rate to an NFL all-time record 1.3 percent

Brissett owns the lowest interception percentage in NFL history, just ahead of Aaron Rodgers.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[TRW]

Anthony Richardson!!!


J/K

He likely is available. Unfortunately he’s a bigger version of Murray. He didn’t come out of college with good mechanics and despite the Colts best effort, he didn’t improve. As a result his completion percentage is terrible, barely reaching 50%. He throws more interceptions than TDs. College was just about as bad. He’s a great athlete and an outstanding runner. He’s a major project. If a coach could reach him, none has yet, he could be outstanding. He has a big arm, enough agility to throw on the run and he plays with energy. I’m have a low level of confidence he could be developed. He’s more interesting than the free agents, but he’s not worth more than a late conditional pick.

He's big but seems to be Mr. Glass so far, as well as a terrible passer of the football. Big pass on him IMO.

 

[BritCard]

nothing wrong with the 26 draft class...just like all the rest it has multiple flavors that will do the job...teams need to decide which flavor works best for them.
the reason the 83 draft is widely considered the best QB draft of all time is..because it is..but also because its rare for a high number of top quality QB's to be available in a single draft.
the thing is...Elway, Marino, Kelly...they all look like hall of famers now....but they really didnt in 1982...they had their warts...

but in the 26 draft we have two prototypes in Mendoza and Allar..both have the physical tools, can make all the passes, have solid arm talent, and appear to have the gears between the ears to make the machine work. widely different situations, with Mendoza looking like a day one starter and Allar suffering from a serious coaching deficit... but in the right situation either/both of those guys can/should have great careers in the NFL.

then there is a bevy of other guys who are not prototypes...they bring more intangibles to their new teams...a couple of them may need to ride the bench for a season before starting as well...but they can still be successful. I wouldnt be shocked to see 5 quarterbacks get picked in the first round in 2026.....and I wouldnt be shocked to see one fall all the way to 32 and a few years later be in the MVP hunt just like Lamar Jackson did.
dont forget...lots of "experts" dogged buffalo for drafting Josh Allen...."accuracy is not a correctable issue" is a long standing fact in NFL circles...and Allen couldnt hit the broad side of a barn if he was standing inside it while in college. Now Buffalo looks like an organization run by a genius as they got a guy on track for a hall of fame type career, just like they did back in 1983.

one thing is certain...every year we hear, " This draft is the best QB draft in 20 years!"...orr..." this draft really suxx for the quarterback position"...and every year...the pundits are usually wrong..someone who gets over drafted turns out to be really good...and a guy who should set the league on fire turns out to just be human.

the talent is there to be had. The trick is in matching the talent with the situation...and then not rushing it. The one thing that ruins a quarterbacks career more than any other factor is impatience.

There's no guy there that says "I'm a year 1 starter" and the general consensus I've seen from analysts is that if Cam Ward was coming out this year he would be QB1.

 

[oaken1]

There's no guy there that says "I'm a year 1 starter" and the general consensus I've seen from analysts is that if Cam Ward was coming out this year he would be QB1.

well crap!! go with that then,...because those guys are right every damn year!!
good on ya!

 

[BritCard]

well crap!! go with that then,...because those guys are right every damn year!!
good on ya!

Nobody can say they are right or not, but we can say on balance that they are probably right.

More often than not the guys they don't think are great coming out, or that need to sit a while, do need that. There are sometimes surprises, but not as often as they called it right.

If JB keeps playing like this I'm fine with starting JB and drafting Nussmeier or Allar later, both of whom I think have the tools but poor situations. Mendoza would be a good fit for this offense but I think he's gone before we pick.

 

[oaken1]

Nobody can say they are right or not, but we can say on balance that they are probably right.

More often than not the guys they don't think are great coming out, or that need to sit a while, do need that. There are sometimes surprises, but not as often as they called it right.

If JB keeps playing like this I'm fine with starting JB and drafting Nussmeier or Allar later, both of whom I think have the tools but poor situations. Mendoza would be a good fit for this offense but I think he's gone before we pick.

Mendoza wont be gone if Monti makes a deal to go get him.
of course, if whoever has the first pick is just in love then it is what it is...but most GM's are willing to deal

 

[DVontel]

There's no guy there that says "I'm a year 1 starter" and the general consensus I've seen from analysts is that if Cam Ward was coming out this year he would be QB1.

Then you haven’t heard of Fernando Mendoza & Ty Simpson.

 

[Harry]

One of the things on JB and I mentioned this for years with McNabb, when he misses he tends to miss low. McNabb was famous for worm burners. It looks bad but from an INT % it's a good thing. Missing high or wide left or right results in picks, missing low or short doesn't, at least not very often. That 4th down miss to Marv was the classic example of that it sucked it wasn't complete but if you're going to miss that throw, he missed in the safe place.

Your right but you just can’t miss game winning throws in 2 games

 

[Harry]

Mendoza wont be gone if Monti makes a deal to go get him.
of course, if whoever has the first pick is just in love then it is what it is...but most GM's are willing to deal

I’m not sure he’s worth that deal. He’s the best, but doesn’t grade out exceptional. I like him but the cost probably gets bid up too high.

 

[HammerCards]

Well they also took the job they don’t get to complain about the conditions of their hiring.

Also they didn’t have to do all the bonus stuff like travel to Norman for Kyler’s statue.

Ya lets not do everything in our power to make it work with the current franchise QB. Heck of a strategy.

Come on man.

 

[HammerCards]

Not sure where this goes. All I know is it has been more enjoyable watching this team without Kyler at the QB position.

I supported him longer than most (panthers last year was the breaking point), but I am excited for a new era.

 

[PDXChris]

He's big but seems to be Mr. Glass so far, as well as a terrible passer of the football. Big pass on him IMO.

I was 100% joking.

 

[kerouac9]

Ya lets not do everything in our power to make it work with the current franchise QB. Heck of a strategy.

Come on man.

Once you adopt someone you are responsible for them. Lots of ways to be in on your current QB that isn’t running down the hall to dab him up.

 

[Chopper0080]

There's no guy there that says "I'm a year 1 starter" and the general consensus I've seen from analysts is that if Cam Ward was coming out this year he would be QB1.

Meh...no one said Dart was either and he has been ok.

 

[oaken1]

I’m not sure he’s worth that deal. He’s the best, but doesn’t grade out exceptional. I like him but the cost probably gets bid up too high.

yeah maybe...but you know as well as I that the deal is the deal. "IF" he doesnt grade that high, then its likely the cost of the deal goes down....either way it would be this years first, next years first...then a second as a minimum...but if oters ave im graded ig it could be tree firsts..plus..

I see the potential for Peyton Manning 2.0, thus...I would give the 26, 27, and 28 firsts to get im...
as strange as it sounds...our roster is actually in a good spot to make a deal like tat...especially if e turns out to be te guy...we are loaded wit young talent


oly crap...my ayc isnt working arry!

 

[Totally_Red]

Meh...no one said Dart was either and he has been ok.

If there is a Dart we should trade back into the first and grab him. Maybe Sellers is that guy.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

No one can accurately predict a QB class as being weak. Too many variables.

Plenty of years where people predicted a strong QB draft and it didn't pan out. The whole draft is a crapshoot for a myriad of reasons.

 

[GatorAZ]

The Cardinals will be using a high draft pick on a QB next draft unless someone unforeseen hits the market.

Hope you like Carson Beck.