Durant to Suns

[Covert Rain]

I dont think moving KD anywhere helps or hurts the suns organization, if we moved Book then yes. KD has actually earned a lot of negativity by his own actions, so i think his reputation actually would help justify the Suns decisions in sending him wherever we want and not where he wants. Team hopping, coaches fired, arguing on social media, etc. Being a diva.

It helps us with the cap and getting assets back. In terms of KD, he has been well behaved here IMO. I think he has been nothing but supportive of Book as well. It just didn't work out. In terms of Book? I am one of the few on this board that thinks we should move him while he is at peak value because we are not winning a title before Book retires barring some amazing trade to get a legit #1 in here to play with him with the time he has left.

 

[Ronin]

REPORT: Timberwolves Still Alive in Suns, Kevin Durant Trade Rumors

The Phoenix Suns are still actively talking to the Minnesota Timberwolves in Kevin Durant trade discussions.

www.si.com

 

[Ronin]

Bickley: Suns owe Kevin Durant nothing

The Suns owe Kevin Durant nothing and need to mind their own best interests when searching for a trade partner.

arizonasports.com

 

[Ronin]

Former Spurs executive reveals Suns’ massive ask for Kevin Durant as trade talks intensify

Phoenix may as well be asking for the sun.

nypost.com

 

[Hoop Head]

Former Spurs executive reveals Suns’ massive ask for Kevin Durant as trade talks intensify

Phoenix may as well be asking for the sun.

nypost.com

That is good news. I wouldn't do a deal with the Spurs without the #2 or Castle also. Glad they aren't allowing KD's preference set the price.

 

[PHI PHX PHAN]

It helps us with the cap and getting assets back. In terms of KD, he has been well behaved here IMO. I think he has been nothing but supportive of Book as well. It just didn't work out. In terms of Book? I am one of the few on this board that thinks we should move him while he is at peak value because we are not winning a title before Book retires barring some amazing trade to get a legit #1 in here to play with him with the time he has left.

I have now made peace with the idea of trading KD now and going for a haul by trading Book maybe by the deadline.
All the necessary teams with attractive draft capital and a promising young player would most likely be in the mix.
This situation has no immediate fixes and I'd rather see a blowup start when we have some sort of leverage to acquire significant resources as soon as possible.
I can tolerate a 3yr window of righting the ship again with replenished assets as opposed to mediocrity with Book for the next 4, waiting for an inevitable trade request, and leaving the first signs of hope 6yrs down the line.
DNP Beal into oblivion and reestablish a foundation.

 

[Raindog]

I have now made peace with the idea of trading KD now and going for a haul by trading Book maybe by the deadline.
All the necessary teams with attractive draft capital and a promising young player would most likely be in the mix.
This situation has no immediate fixes and I'd rather see a blowup start when we have some sort of leverage to acquire significant resources as soon as possible.
I can tolerate a 3yr window of righting the ship again with replenished assets as opposed to mediocrity with Book for the next 4, waiting for an inevitable trade request, and leaving the first signs of hope 6yrs down the line.
DNP Beal into oblivion and reestablish a foundation.

I agree that a three-year restructure wouldn't be a bad outcome considering the way things look at the moment. The question is if Ishbia has the good sense to follow that.

 

[PHI PHX PHAN]

I agree that a three-year restructure wouldn't be a bad outcome considering the way things look at the moment. The question is if Ishbia has the good sense to follow that.

It works 2 fold with me because I'd rather see his free spending and risk taking approach in a less long term damaging scenario.
I can't completely bash him because I think he made the immediate moves that he did from an inexperienced and overzealous position.
Buying a team fresh in the mix of championship aspirations could make you make some bold decisions.
I was very much in favor of the aggression right out the gate.

But yes as you said...the true test will be if he can recognize that he's at a point where he needs to temper his ambitions and take a more sustainable approach

 

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[GatorAZ]

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So the Wolves would bring Jaden McDaniels off the bench?

 

[Phrazbit]

The Suns shouldn't go any further down the rabbit hole with Durant. They got his list. I don't think they should trade him to bottom feeders or anything that extreme because it would ruin the Suns reputation but the Suns do need to consider what is best for the franchise.

I don't think the Suns should give 2 turds about Durant's preference.

They should take the best offer they can, with zero regard, and I don't think it will make one iota of difference to their reputation.

 

[boisesuns]

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Not amazing, but I think you take it and make a few other smaller trades. Gobert is goofy, but we need defense and rebounding.

Fill gaps by trading allen/etc. cut Beal

 

[Covert Rain]

I don't think the Suns should give 2 turds about Durant's preference.

They should take the best offer they can, with zero regard, and I don't think it will make one iota of difference to their reputation.

I agree to extent. You don’t want the reputation of sending star players to crap teams. Do that and you never get another star player to come here. Reputation in this league does matter.

 

[Hoop Head]

So the Wolves would bring Jaden McDaniels off the bench?

Think they'd play small. Saw some chatter about them trying to run KD at Center. Minnesota is weird. I believe that has something to do with KD not wanting to go there also.

 

[Phrazbit]

I agree to extent. You don’t want the reputation of sending star players to crap teams. Do that and you never get another star player to come here. Reputation in this league does matter.

I cannot think of a time that has ever mattered.

And we're not getting another star for a long long time unless we luck into one in the draft. I really don't see some free agent in 2033 saying to themselves "they did an ancient KD dirty 8 years ago... I dunno about those guys.

Hell, send him to China if they make the best offer.

 

[Covert Rain]

I cannot think of a time that has ever mattered.

And we're not getting another star for a long long time unless we luck into one in the draft. I really don't see some free agent in 2033 saying to themselves "they did an ancient KD dirty 8 years ago... I dunno about those guys.

Hell, send him to China if they make the best offer.

Since when does team reputation not matter? I don’t recall a perennial bad team getting super stars asking to go there or it being a destination.

I think it’s the right thing to do with any superstar. Not let them dictate one team but have them give you a list and you try and make it work. If you can’t? At least you can say you did everything you could.

 

[Phrazbit]

Since when does team reputation not matter? I don’t recall a perennial bad team getting super stars asking to go there or it being a destination.

I think it’s the right thing to do with any superstar. Not let them dictate one team but have them give you a list and you try and make it work. If you can’t? At least you can say you did everything you could.

Teams should do right by themselves.

And no, I don't think it would matter in the least, at any point, if we traded KD to a team not on his list. Other players won't care at all.

 

[GatorAZ]

Think they'd play small. Saw some chatter about them trying to run KD at Center. Minnesota is weird. I believe that has something to do with KD not wanting to go there also.

That would be a stupid trade for the Wolves but I’d take it in a second and try to flip Donte.

 

[Phrazbit]

That would be a stupid trade for the Wolves but I’d take it in a second and try to flip Donte.

Yeah, I think that trade would be a complete disaster for the Wolves. It would be great if we could get some picks down the line because that team is probably going to be hot garbage in about 3 years.

 

[Covert Rain]

Teams should do right by themselves.

And no, I don't think it would matter in the least, at any point, if we traded KD to a team not on his list. Other players won't care at all.

I agree they absolute should in a perfect world but sports is player driven. Teams must agree or the majority of trades wouldn’t give these star players a say and most do.

 

[Cheesebeef]

if Dillingham is in that deal, I pull the trigger. And then trade Donte for another first. and then Rudy for another couple firsts at the deadline.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

if Dillingham is in that deal, I pull the trigger. And then trade Donte for another first. and then Rudy for another couple firsts at the deadline.

This. All day this. If in some crazy world we could turn KD into a young pg and 4 firsts, SIGN. ME. UP.

 

[taz02]

if Dillingham is in that deal, I pull the trigger. And then trade Donte for another first. and then Rudy for another couple firsts at the deadline.

Why did Dillingham miss so many games?

 

[Mainstreet]

Since when does team reputation not matter? I don’t recall a perennial bad team getting super stars asking to go there or it being a destination.

I think it’s the right thing to do with any superstar. Not let them dictate one team but have them give you a list and you try and make it work. If you can’t? At least you can say you did everything you could.

As you said, reputation and location matter. Thinking back when the best free agent the Suns could get was Trevor Ariza.

Also, Durant should be willing to go to a team like Minnesota if location weren't a factor.

 

[Bobster]

Why did Dillingham miss so many games?

mostly DNP - CDs and inactive games.