Durant to Suns

[Cheesebeef]

Why did Dillingham miss so many games?

team going for the playoffs, didn't have time to try and season a rookie at same time. Houston had same issue with Reed Sheppard.

 

[Mainstreet]

If the Timberwolves include one of Rob Dillingham or Terrence Shannon Jr. in the above-mentioned trade for Durant, this might be the best trade they are going to get.

Both are good young prospects.

I remember saying this about Shannon on May, 26th in the Finals thread:

“Terrence Shannon Jr. looks like a good young player in the making for the Wolves.”

I think he is thick enough at 6'6", 215 pounds to play small forward if need be.

 

[GatorAZ]

If the Timberwolves include one of Rob Dillingham or Terrence Shannon Jr. in the above-mentioned trade for Durant, this might be the best trade they are going to get.

Both are good young prospects.

I remember saying this about Shannon on May, 26th in the Finals thread:

“Terrence Shannon Jr. looks like a good young player in the making for the Wolves.”

I think he is thick enough at 6'6", 215 pounds to play small forward if need be.

Depends on the rest of the package. I don’t see a team that already had a thin rotation making a 3 for 1 deal plus their pick. I don’t blame KD for not wanting to go there.

 

[95pro]

I’m in the minority but sign me up for Randle for KD. He fits the timeline with Book better barring a huge signing, although a sign and trade is probably needed to acquire him.

Also his skill set is underrated in passing and handling the ball. He can play inside and out and just has the dog in him which is something this team sorely needs.

He’s a better complimentary piece than KD is. Probably the best outcome at this point looking at the rest of the trades out there since teams aren’t offering much else better. The rumors out there are just rumors which are too good to be true. Teams know we are in a bad spot and are fully looking to take advantage of us due to our last two year track record in making deals.

I’m not saying this is who I want definitively but take the best deal you can for KD, he has to decline sometime.

 

[BirdGangThing]

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I’m in the minority but sign me up for Randle for KD. He fits the timeline with Book better barring a huge signing, although a sign and trade is probably needed to acquire him.

Also his skill set is underrated in passing and handling the ball. He can play inside and out and just has the dog in him which is something this team sorely needs.

He’s a better complimentary piece than KD is. Probably the best outcome at this point looking at the rest of the trades out there since teams aren’t offering much else better. The rumors out there are just rumors which are too good to be true. Teams know we are in a bad spot and are fully looking to take advantage of us due to our last two year track record in making deals.

I’m not saying this is who I want definitively but take the best deal you can for KD, he has to decline sometime.

have to be more than randle tho

 

[95pro]

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have to be more than randle tho

Right. V was mentioned and Daniel’s. I don’t see them including Daniel’s. Naz would be nice too but they need him as well. Just no to gobert instead of Randle.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Right. V was mentioned and Daniel’s. I don’t see them including Daniel’s. Naz would be nice too but they need him as well. Just no to gobert instead of Randle.

same i want no part of gobert

 

[Phrazbit]

same i want no part of gobert

I'd much much rather have Gobert.

Randle is insanely inconsistent and also I think flipping him would be tough, while Gobert would be easy to pass along for value.

IMO Gobert is a player who significantly elevates the "floor" of your team. Your team is almost a lock to play good defense, rebound will and probably win a fair amount of games.

The drawbacks are that in the playoffs team game plan to limit his effectiveness.

 

[BirdGangThing]

I'd much much rather have Gobert.

Randle is insanely inconsistent and also I think flipping him would be tough, while Gobert would be easy to pass along for value.

IMO Gobert is a player who significantly elevates the "floor" of your team. Your team is almost a lock to play good defense, rebound will and probably win a fair amount of games.

The drawbacks are that in the playoffs team game plan to limit his effectiveness.

just gonna have to disagree on this one - if we don't have gobert here for long then maybe? you said it yourself - we've seen gobert get embarrassed time and time again where as i wouldn't mind keeping randle - we need real toughness - not the cheesy crowder type the real deal

 

[Phrazbit]

just gonna have to disagree on this one - if we don't have gobert here for long then maybe? you said it yourself - we've seen gobert get embarrassed time and time again where as i wouldn't mind keeping randle - we need real toughness - not the cheesy crowder type the real deal

See... I think Randle is like, 1/10th as tough as Gobert in the ways that matter remotely when it comes to winning games. And I am not trying to hype up Gobert there... I think Randle is a bitch.

Randle's "toughness" involves throwing fits, getting T'd up and taking an occasional cheap shot. He's a bad defender and a bad rebounder.

IMO, Randle is a losing player, the Knicks were better without him, the Wolves were far worse with him and that has kinda been the narrative his entire career.

 

[PHI PHX PHAN]

I'm in the camp of get the best return for KD regardless of team.
The courtesy being that you negotiate with his preferred teams but if they're lowballing you due to that very same principle, you prioritize the team.
He has been catered to enough for a guy who (when it all boils down to it) really just props himself up on individual accolades and doesn't take accountability for lacking as a leader.
Phoenix will be the last team that he can leverage the "Look at my stats, I make teams better off that alone" mirage.
He specified Phoenix as his destination under the premise of being a missing piece that would immediately catapult a team to championship level.
The reality is that he is an elite luxury mercenary.
The perfect FA acquisition but not so much as a trade acquisition due to the diminished value compared to what you give up for his services.
He loves to be coveted more than anything.
Get the best return you can, let the other team assume the risk at this point.
He'll be right back in his sweet spot of being coveted after one season even if he doesn't want to sign an extension with whatever team.

I fell for the mirage like many others, but in my 20/20 hindsight I would have gladly kept everything we traded back then to be in position to make actual championship moves today

 

[Phrazbit]

I'm in the camp of get the best return for KD regardless of team.
The courtesy being that you negotiate with his preferred teams but if they're lowballing you due to that very same principle, you prioritize the team.
He has been catered to enough for a guy who (when it all boils down to it) really just props himself up on individual accolades and doesn't take accountability for lacking as a leader.
Phoenix will be the last team that he can leverage the "Look at my stats, I make teams better off that alone" mirage.
He specified Phoenix as his destination under the premise of being a missing piece that would immediately catapult a team to championship level.
The reality is that he is an elite luxury mercenary.
The perfect FA acquisition but not so much as a trade acquisition due to the diminished value compared to what you give up for his services.
He loves to be coveted more than anything.
Get the best return you can, let the other team assume the risk at this point.
He'll be right back in his sweet spot of being coveted after one season even if he doesn't want to sign an extension with whatever team.

I fell for the mirage like many others, but in my 20/20 hindsight I would have gladly kept everything we traded back then to be in position to make actual championship moves today

We bid against ourselves for KD, no one else was even on the radar when we made the trade, we bid against the mere idea that he'd be more expensive later (an idiotic notion when talking about a player in their mid 30s) and the price we paid was utterly ruinous for the franchise.

This idea that we need to "do good" to a player that is one of the most disloyal, self service, passive aggressive stars in NBA history, a dude who gets a coach fired basically every single year, is absolutely comical.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm in the camp of get the best return for KD regardless of team.
The courtesy being that you negotiate with his preferred teams but if they're lowballing you due to that very same principle, you prioritize the team.
He has been catered to enough for a guy who (when it all boils down to it) really just props himself up on individual accolades and doesn't take accountability for lacking as a leader.
Phoenix will be the last team that he can leverage the "Look at my stats, I make teams better off that alone" mirage.
He specified Phoenix as his destination under the premise of being a missing piece that would immediately catapult a team to championship level.
The reality is that he is an elite luxury mercenary.
The perfect FA acquisition but not so much as a trade acquisition due to the diminished value compared to what you give up for his services.
He loves to be coveted more than anything.
Get the best return you can, let the other team assume the risk at this point.
He'll be right back in his sweet spot of being coveted after one season even if he doesn't want to sign an extension with whatever team.

I fell for the mirage like many others, but in my 20/20 hindsight I would have gladly kept everything we traded back then to be in position to make actual championship moves today

Theoretically, “get the best return for KD regardless of team” is the correct approach.

However, if a trade partner wants a commitment from Durant that he will sign an extension after the trade and he is not willing to do so, they may not want to take the risk or limit the value they offer in trade.

 

[Ronin]

Suns Open To Trade Discussions for 2 Key Players This Offseason

The Suns have more players than just Kevin Durant who will likely be on the move this offseason.

www.si.com

 

[Ronin]

ESPN Insider Delivers Strong Verdict on Kevin Durant to Timberwolves Trade Rumors

Multiple NBA insiders are too keen on Kevin Durant going to the Timberwolves

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Ronin]

Report: Suns Receiving Kevin Durant Trade Interest From Surprising New Team

The Phoenix Suns are reportedly receiving new Kevin Durant trade interest from a surprising team.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[BirdGangThing]

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damn - nearly identical to what i was thinking weeks ago - and i hate gobert

 

[Folster]

I wonder what options there are to flip Gobert in a three team trade. The Lakers need a defensive center to anchor their team and cover-up for Luka and an aging LeBron.

 

[GatorAZ]

Theoretically, “get the best return for KD regardless of team” is the correct approach.

However, if a trade partner wants a commitment from Durant that he will sign an extension after the trade and he is not willing to do so, they may not want to take the risk or limit the value they offer in trade.

The ex-wife is dictating the terms of the divorce. We’ll be left with the dog, maybe.

 

[Mainstreet]

The ex-wife is dictating the terms of the divorce. We’ll be left with the dog, maybe.

Personally, I will be so glad when this deal is done.

I'm not confident with the Suns decision makers, but I'm hoping for the best.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I wonder what options there are to flip Gobert in a three team trade. The Lakers need a defensive center to anchor their team and cover-up for Luka and an aging LeBron.

do the Lakers have any more picks to give? maybe reeves and rui and we flip those for picks?

 

[hcsilla]

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I am not a fan of Dillingham. He is quick, but just a boy playing among men.