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Kyler is very much a big issue. Arguably the #2 issue beyond Bidwill, and unfortunately we can't get rid of him. The coaching is ass too, but Kyler was ass before we got these coaches, so...
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Since you didn’t watch, KYLER DID NOT PLAY YESTERDAY
Stout
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaat?
Jabroni B regressed to the mean
As back ups usually do
QB is an issue. Time to move on from Kyler, since it is clear the relationship with the team and him is toxic.
But Kyler/QB is way down the list of issues with this team.
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This thread did get off topic but you are correct. Being willing to stay in the pocket and take a hit to make a play is great and served him well in previous weeks. The rush in this game was fierce and protecting the ball is always a priority. He didn’t do it and put us out of it early.
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Per PFF, Brissett is bottom 10 against blitz/pressure over last 10 years.
Not a good fit with the soft ass Oline
Not a good fit with the soft ass Oline
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Combination of a bad oline and receivers that can’t get ANY separation (unless you are playing the Cowboys). JB was overmatched as probably any QB would have been. Just my two cents.
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Anyone can gameplan for us but we can't gameplan for anyone.
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Can’t believe that crap was ever said by anyone much less a coach of a NFL team.
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JB is above average with a good Oline or against a bad Dline. He doesn’t have the mobility, quick release or the pocket awareness enough to overcome poor protection.
I like his style of standing tall in the pocket but to win consistently in this league you need more ability.
If he’s on the roster next year he better not be the starter!
I like his style of standing tall in the pocket but to win consistently in this league you need more ability.
If he’s on the roster next year he better not be the starter!
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We had basically the same O-line last year and it was a top 10 unit. I think i saw somewhere where on one play 3 OL were blocking 1 guy leaving free rushers. While i agree we dont have any above average guys outside of PJJ there has to be a major coaching/scheme issue. It seemed like on play action especially there was someone in the backfield before the fake handoff was even done on every play. So frustrating to watch.
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Yeah, but we can still blame him for the loss, right?
Stout
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Hard disagree. When you don't have a viable QB you don't have a chance as a franchise. In no way, shape, or form is Kyler WAY down the list of issues with this team.
Well, changing quarterbacks made everything worse so I’ll have to disagree
Head coach
OC
DC
GM
Owner
O-line
Recievers
Running backs
LB
Training staff
Special teams coach
Complete failure top to bottom
Stout
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Changing QBs made everything worse? Um...who played better this season, Kyler or Jacoby? Hint: the answer isn't Kyler. Jacoby balled out for three games and made the offense look functional. Kyler made the offense look fetal.
I will agree with you in part an say it is a total system failure from top to bottom. It starts at the tippy top with Bidwill and filters through the whole organization. Why do I put a large portion of blame on the QB? I'll answer with a question: How many teams can win without a functional QB?
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Tom Brady, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Jalen Hurts, you name em. They were not winning that game on Sunday. While there were multiple sources of discontent for me on Sunday, Jacoby's play was not at the top of the list.
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I like Jacoby.
I’m fine with him playing the rest of the season.
But please stop saying this. Dude coughed up not one, but two scoop & scores. If he’s not at the very top, he is at the top.
If that had happened to Kyler, this Board would’ve had a meltdown, only rivaled by Chernobyl
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I don’t really care about that. Just kind of wild to say Jacoby’s play wasn’t at the top of the list of problems. Mahome, Maye, Allen, Lamar, etc, could do the same thing & the same would apply to them.
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D, the line had something to do with that, no? Even from my alcohol fueled perspective, I thought his arm was coming forward on both. He was trying to deliver throws there and didn't just fumble after being sacked. I was clearly wrong, but Knight and Lawrence were on him before he could get a chance to breathe. I'm not absolving him. You are correct, he played horribly, but the early possessions effectively ended the game. It was all downhill from there. For the entire team. No QB in the NFL could have saved the day.
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And the reason why we give Jacoby SOME grace is that he's had a much better body of work this year. Kyler has been here 7 years and most of us recall more bad than good. As a fan base, we're still glowing from last week. That's how sad it is, but it's in our nature unfortunately.
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Total pitchforks if K1 does that back to back.
Some of you fans seriously hate the dude.
