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Kyler would have benched himself in fear of getting injured or not looking cool after the 1st and JB would have put up the same stats.

JB got the ball out again best he could. Another TD for McBride and didn’t make a fool of himself.

The coaching staff and O line is pathetic.
 

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Oh. I stand corrected. You are excited the team does poorly so you can get back at the KM doubters. Equally as sad.
lol what are you talking about? Another KDS attacking me and putting thoughts/posts about stuff I never said? Cool. Go take your meds bud
 

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Still hasn’t changed… we do need to move on for the organizations sake AND Kyler’s take.

What’s changed? Finally, feeding the KDS Crew their medicine as they obviously have been off their meds pointing to Kyler as the vast majority of the problem… FAR from the case. No QB would work with this Oline and this scheme unless you are playing pitiful defenses. As has shown for the entire Petz tenure.
Kyler clearly has the athleticism and football IQ to make plays that your bog standard QB can't, so it is frustrating to see him fail. Like he should be able to do this, but then you get to the plays where he actually can't do it, because he can't see. He just has hard limitations, he cannot throw a 15 yard dig route on time, or see all the reads when he drops back from under center. So why not avoid those plays, play to Kyler's strengths? The ideal offense for Kyler is shotgun, spread it out, 5 wide, read option stuff. That is the opposite of what an OC wants to do right. In 2025 almost every team is using nickel as their base defense and is very comfortable in a dime package. The defensive meta has shifted in such a way that building in an offense to Kyler's strengths is basically surrendering. That offense is playing into defenses strengths, and these defenses are really effective, scoring has been down for years.

I know I know, we've seen a Daniel Jones resurgence. There is no Daniel Jones resurgence coming for Kyler. Despite Kyler having much better pocket feel and arm talent than Jones, Kyler would be incapable of running Shane Steichan's offense, which is all built around under center RPOs. No OC in the NFL is running a Kyler friendly offense, everyone's trying to beat up these DB heavy packages that have smothered the league the last 3 years with a power run game, under center RPOs, and timing routes in the splash zone.

Kyler is guaranteed to fail at his next location. He can't run the best offenses to beat modern defenses. It's not Petzing, it's not his WRs, it's not his OL (however bad it has been), it's not his work ethic, he just can't do it. If Stafford retired tomorrow I don't think McVay would even consider signing Kyler.
 
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Brisset threw for 250+ and 2 TDs. Something Kyler hasn't done once all year, and he loses a couple on blitzes and he's ass now. Sometimes this fanbase deserves what they get.

This was a coaching failure. The game plan for both sides coming in was garbage.

I said during the week that they was a game where Kyler actually had a better chance of competing because the Seahawks are a really bad matchup for us. With a guy that likes to sit in the pocket I said if I was the Seahawks I'd press around the line, cut off any quick passes and pin my ears back at Brissett and that's what they did.

And the gameplan didn't seem to expect this at all. There seemed to be no hots on many plays. If they are blitzing you need to punish it by finding the quick pass into the vacated space. We didn't do any of that. The game was lost in Q1 with a bad game plan.
 

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100%… more so feeds in how delusional the KDS Crew is.. no QB could succeed with this OLine and and this scheme. Just isn’t possible unless you are playing Dallas, or the Colts w out CB1 and CB2 or a fraudulent GB defense.
I knew it. The moment our career journeyman backup didn't play really well, the Kyler stans would be trying to excuse how excruciatingly bad he is. Kyler still stinks. Our OL and scheme also still stinks. All three are true.
 

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Still hasn’t changed… we do need to move on for the organizations sake AND Kyler’s take.

What’s changed? Finally, feeding the KDS Crew their medicine as they obviously have been off their meds pointing to Kyler as the vast majority of the problem… FAR from the case. No QB would work with this Oline and this scheme unless you are playing pitiful defenses. As has shown for the entire Petz tenure.
So detached from reality here. You are...feeding people medicine? lol
 

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First, Seattle did not pass rush nearly this aggressively in previous games.
Second, Seattle was very disorganized earlier, but cam together quickly.
Third, harder for road team in Seattle especially when Seattle gets up early.
Fourth, incredibly the coaching seems to be getting worse. They were totally caught off guard by Seattle aggressiveness.

Murray would have played differently, but IMO not more successfully. The Cards got so badly outplayed it looked like an early season college game with a top FBS team playing a weak FCS team; a total mismatch.
Yeah but it’s not like their coaches are geniuses. They simply said Kyler isn’t playing, great. JB isn’t mobile, great let’s pressure a non mobile QB. Yet coaches don’t know how to evaluate other teams like that.
 

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I knew it. The moment our career journeyman backup didn't play really well, the Kyler stans would be trying to excuse how excruciatingly bad he is. Kyler still stinks. Our OL and scheme also still stinks. All three are true.
lol there’s no excuses for Kyler… all 3 things mentioned are factual within this offense… and no QB can possibly have sustained success in this offense.
 

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So detached from reality here. You are...feeding people medicine? lol
Oh ya.. I want you to start calling me the the Docta, Stout. I missed having banter w you yesterday! Would have gave you your daily dose too ;)
 

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Kyler has gained another stan the last few weeks, I see. He has been ass this season, I hate to say.
Stan? No. I just don’t have KDS and can see the many flaws of this team.

Kyler is an issue. But not the issue. Or even close to being the issue.
 

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Yeah but it’s not like their coaches are geniuses. They simply said Kyler isn’t playing, great. JB isn’t mobile, great let’s pressure a non mobile QB. Yet coaches don’t know how to evaluate other teams like that.
Exactly. If Kyler was playing, they wouldn’t have blitzed like that - they would’ve played a D that would’ve accounted for Kyler’s mobility But they knew they had a quarterback that would just stand there and stand there and stand there with a weak o-line so they could be their ears back.
 

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Yeah JB is clearly not the only issue from that game but anybody saying those fumbles aren't in part on him is not being honest. He held the ball too long on both of them he has a slow release.

The OL was terrible and with a QB like JB just a terrible combination. JG was very clear he said on must throw plays you have to get the ball out quickly, gotta protect but it HAS to come out and didn't.
 

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Brisset threw for 250+ and 2 TDs. Something Kyler hasn't done once all year, and he loses a couple on blitzes and he's ass now. Sometimes this fanbase deserves what they get.

This was a coaching failure. The game plan for both sides coming in was garbage.

I said during the week that they was a game where Kyler actually had a better chance of competing because the Seahawks are a really bad matchup for us. With a guy that likes to sit in the pocket I said if I was the Seahawks I'd press around the line, cut off any quick passes and pin my ears back at Brissett and that's what they did.

And the gameplan didn't seem to expect this at all. There seemed to be no hots on many plays. If they are blitzing you need to punish it by finding the quick pass into the vacated space. We didn't do any of that. The game was lost in Q1 with a bad game plan.
You have to understand the KM apologists were waiting and hoping this would happen each week. We played a team that dominated the line on both sides of the ball. Simply we were beaten by a better team. Coaching contributed with calls like running Bam up the middle on third and short.
 

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Yeah JB is clearly not the only issue from that game but anybody saying those fumbles aren't in part on him is not being honest. He held the ball too long on both of them he has a slow release.

The OL was terrible and with a QB like JB just a terrible combination. JG was very clear he said on must throw plays you have to get the ball out quickly, gotta protect but it HAS to come out and didn't.
JB did hold the ball to long on some plays. He was trying to make things happen, but he has to feel the heat and get rid of the ball

OL was horrible and was getting blown up all game

Lots of blame to go around

But if the Oline doesn't improve look for more mistakes from JB

He did make some nice throws under pressure so not all bad
 
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