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That can be true but yesterday wasn't Kyler's fault, he put the ball where it needed to be on all 3 critical dropped passes.

Dude 2 of those were on the same drive and on the other we scored a TD. Those 3 drops robbed us, at best, of 4 points.

Kyler meanwhile threw for 4.5 YPA. He's 8% in his career when throwing for less than 5.5. Tell me it wasn't Kyler.
 

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Dude 2 of those were on the same drive and on the other we scored a TD. Those 3 drops robbed us, at best, of 4 points.

Kyler meanwhile threw for 4.5 YPA. He's 8% in his career when throwing for less than 5.5. Tell me it wasn't Kyler.
Look, I'm not the biggest Kyler fan either but no matter when the drops happened they weren't his fault. This thread started out about the WR problem lol. At the end of the day, Kyler is who he is, a short QB that struggles to read defenses, can't see over the line, doesn't really go through his reads etc etc, he is what he is & I don't know when things will change if at all?
 

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Brit will never admit it because he’s too far down in the hole, but I know it had to make him sad when he seen Ricky Pearsall make contested catches while Marvin drops the easiest TD catches ever. Don’t worry, it made all of us sad as well.
 

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Brit will never admit it because he’s too far down in the hole, but I know it had to make him sad when he seen Ricky Pearsall make contested catches while Marvin drops the easiest TD catches ever. Don’t worry, it made all of us sad as well.

I've not denied they were bad drops, it doesn't matter. We didn't lose the game because of drops, they are a distraction. We lost (again) because of piss poor quarterback play.

Honestly, I have no real concerns about Marv, every good WR he was with at Ohio said he was better than them. Or any concerns about the rest of the receivers. They can't get into a rhythm, they can't get warm. Marv is lucky to get 6 targets a game and anyone else is amazed to get 3.

I imagine Marv is incredibly frustrated to be playing with a QB that can't pass more than 5 yards unless we are up 10 or down 7.
 

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We didn't lose the game because of drops
Not by a WR, but a drop took away would-been TD from Demarcado. We absolutely did.
they are a distraction
Whatever helps you sleep at night my man.
every good WR he was with at Ohio said he was better than them.
It’s 2025. Who cares about who said is better than who. Homies praise other homies up. Funny, all of those WRs at Ohio State are playing better than him, even the one with Justin Fields & Tyrod Taylor as his QB.
Or any concerns about the rest of the receivers.
I don’t have any concerns about Wilson. He’s the only one.
They can't get into a rhythm
I think one way to get into a rhythm is catching wide open passes? Maybe I’m wrong, idk.
Marv is lucky
Marv is lucky he’s a top 4 pick cause he could be looking at a benching.
I imagine Marv is incredibly frustrated to be playing with a QB that can't pass more than 5 yards unless we are up 10 or down 7.
I imagine any QB would be incredibly frustrated playing with a WR who keeps dropping ball over & over again.



You are sound a lot like the Kyler stans, who you desperately so hate, but with Marv
 

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I've not denied they were bad drops, it doesn't matter. We didn't lose the game because of drops, they are a distraction. We lost (again) because of piss poor quarterback play.

Honestly, I have no real concerns about Marv, every good WR he was with at Ohio said he was better than them. Or any concerns about the rest of the receivers. They can't get into a rhythm, they can't get warm. Marv is lucky to get 6 targets a game and anyone else is amazed to get 3.

I imagine Marv is incredibly frustrated to be playing with a QB that can't pass more than 5 yards unless we are up 10 or down 7.
Kyler is who is as a QB, we all know his limitations but I'm sorry, he didn't lose us the game yesterday, the drops cost us big time. if Damacardo hangs on, he walks into the end zone. The wide open pass that MHJ dropped, I doubt he scored but it would've gotten us into FG range at least. I have plenty of concerns about MHJ, he drops passes & doesn't high point the ball like ever.
 

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Not by a WR, but a drop took away would-been TD from Demarcado. We absolutely did.

Whatever helps you sleep at night my man.

It’s 2025. Who cares about who said is better than who. Homies praise other homies up. Funny, all of those WRs at Ohio State are playing better than him, even the one with Justin Fields & Tyrod Taylor as his QB.

I don’t have any concerns about Wilson. He’s the only one.

I think one way to get into a rhythm is catching wide open passes? Maybe I’m wrong, idk.

Marv is lucky he’s a top 4 pick cause he could be looking at a benching.

I imagine any QB would be incredibly frustrated playing with a WR who keeps dropping ball over & over again.



You are sound a lot like the Kyler stans, who you desperately so hate, but with Marv

Over and over again? lol

He's had a couple of bad drops in the last 2 games. Get a grip.

And no, the drop cost us 4. We still would have lost without it because the Niners almost certainly would have scored a TD on that last drive if they needed one and only the safety put us within reach anyway.
 
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Kyler is who is as a QB, we all know his limitations but I'm sorry, he didn't lose us the game yesterday, the drops cost us big time. if Damacardo hangs on, he walks into the end zone. The wide open pass that MHJ dropped, I doubt he scored but it would've gotten us into FG range at least. I have plenty of concerns about MHJ, he drops passes & doesn't high point the ball like ever.

4.5 YPA when the win rate is 8% under 5.5 cost us the game.

The MHJ drop was on the same drive as the Demercado drop. It cost us nothing, we got the 1st down and continued the drive.
 

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3 drops with 2 of them being TDs. Two gigantic drops. I don’t think I’M the one that needs to get a grip here, lol.

Sorry what? What 3 drops?

He had the one last week, cost us nothing as we got the 1st down later and continued the drive. The one yesterday that again cost us nothing because that ball was underthrown and Warner was going to turn him to mush. And he had a very low percentage diving catch on a ball meant for Zay Jones which I'd like to see him catch TBH but I'm not going to blame him as it was tough. But we scored after the PI. So literally none of them cost us a thing.
 

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4.5 YPA when the win rate is 8% under 5.5 cost us the game.

The MHJ drop was on the same drive as the Demercado drop. It cost us nothing, we got the 1st down and continued the drive.
Either way, Kyler put the ball where it had to be. It doesn't matter what he averaged YPA because he did nothing to cost us the game, Demacardo could've walked in & that would be the score we needed.
 

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Sorry what? What 3 drops?
Why ask this when you literally just laid out the 3 drops in the next paragraph? lol

The one yesterday that again cost us nothing because that ball was underthrown and Warner was going to turn him to mush
Mush? Fred was trailing Marvin! Lmao. How the hell was Fred was gonna turn him to mush?
blame him as it was tough.
It hit Marv in his chest. That’s not a tough catch for premier WRs at all.
So literally none of them cost us a thing.
It should cost trust in the guy from the players & fanbase.
 
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BirtCard infecting every thread that discusses anything but K1.

Dude go spam another thread.

This one is talking about a legitimate issue that hasn’t been addressed by our crap GM.

In a league driven by WR play we invest in TEs and can’t move the ball when it matters.
 
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I'll put my hand up and say we made the wrong pick with MHJ. Clearly.
I won’t blame MO for picking Marv. He almost had to after not drafting will anderson the year before. It was a sensible pick. What is not sensible is not finding more WR talent after Marv in the draft and free agency.

We don’t have a single WR that is explosive and can get us big yards when we need it. It’s a problem that won’t be fixed till next year unless we trade during the season.

People are saying Waddle but the Dolphins are more apt to trade Hill than him which I would not be against because he would for sure be our number one with this crappy group.
 

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I've not denied they were bad drops, it doesn't matter. We didn't lose the game because of drops, they are a distraction. We lost (again) because of piss poor quarterback play.

Wow... seriously?

We lost the game precisely because of the drops. If Jones catches that perfectly thrown ball with two minutes to go, we run out the clock and we're instead talking about how we're the worst 3-0 team in history.

It's undeniable, and your lack of acknowledgement of this fact demonstrates your lack of impartiality on the issue.
 
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This is a good take.

Everyone has to be ready to get the ball when it comes for you. No question. But you can’t choose to feature Tip Reiman on three-yard outs for the first 15 targets and expect your guys to be locked in.
The fact we have a whole thread dedicated to Tip makes me want to puke. We can’t convert 3rd and 8 or more and we think the investment in Tip is a great thing.
 
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HE dropped one in the end zone today
Does he go half hearted on routes, is he not aggressive, is he a half hearted blocke, lastly does he catch with his body?

Adam’s is a future HOFFER. I wish it was only drops for Marv but it’s so much more.
 

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I was as guilty as anyone in regards to thinking MHJ was going to be a superstar. I am embarrassed to think that he was going to be on a level with Fitz and Boldin. On that first drop, if it was Anquan instead of MHJ, not only would Boldin have caught it, he would have looked to run over anyone he couldn’t outrun. On the 2nd drop, Larry catches that ball with his eyes closed. On broken plays where Kyler either runs or looks to pass, both Anquan and Larry work their tails off to get open or go and find a defender to bury with a block. MHJ does neither all the time.
 
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