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I’m worried about an emotional plateau if we knock them out early. That was supposed to be a WCF caliber matchup.
But is that still the case right now? I think just getting past the first round would be an emotional plateau, regardless of the opponent.
 

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The refs are a wild card, sure, but I'd like to see the reasoning that the Lakers would "wipe" the floor with us. I don't see that as a given against them at all.

*if relatively healthy? size, athleticism, experience. We don't play nearly as well against big, athletic teams. We just saw the Hawks wipe the floor with us. The Nets beat us pretty the same way. The Clippers have handled us pretty easy twice when they had their two stars and we struggled to put them away when they were down Kawhi and multiple starters. Those are all big, long and athletic teams. And while you may think playoff experience isn't that important, I disagree. I think of Suns teams from the past like the 1989 WCF when we played the Lakers and it was KJ, Horny and Majerle's first go round. That team had Chambers and EJ who had playoff experience and Cotton as coach and EVERY GAME against the Lakers was close in that series... but the defending champions always knew how to close out playoff games and we lost 4-0 in a sweep.

Then, I think of the 2004-5 Suns... playoff neophytes all of them except for Nash. We get the already multiple champion Spurs in the WCF, have HCA and just blow both games at home. That first game we lead by 10 in the third and then just didn't have the experience to close out the game. And then like most inexperienced teams, let the moment get too big for us and just got shellacked in Game 2 en route to a 4-1 series loss. That team had Nash with a lot of playoff experience, but that was pretty much it... much like CP3.

Like it or not, but the Lakers are the defending champs, they have a lot of experience when the pressure is REALLY on. We've yet to see how we handle that. A lot of times, first crack at the playoffs are learning experiences. I think we can overcome those against teams that aren't title tested and who I think we're generally better than... the Mavs, Portlands, Warriors of the world.
 

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*if relatively healthy? size, athleticism, experience. We don't play nearly as well against big, athletic teams. We just saw the Hawks wipe the floor with us. The Nets beat us pretty the same way. The Clippers have handled us pretty easy twice when they had their two stars and we struggled to put them away when they were down Kawhi and multiple starters. Those are all big, long and athletic teams. And while you may think playoff experience isn't that important, I disagree. I think of Suns teams from the past like the 1989 WCF when we played the Lakers and it was KJ, Horny and Majerle's first go round. That team had Chambers and EJ who had playoff experience and Cotton as coach and EVERY GAME against the Lakers was close in that series... but the defending champions always knew how to close out playoff games and we lost 4-0 in a sweep.

Then, I think of the 2004-5 Suns... playoff neophytes all of them except for Nash. We get the already multiple champion Spurs in the WCF, have HCA and just blow both games at home. That first game we lead by 10 in the third and then just didn't have the experience to close out the game. And then like most inexperienced teams, let the moment get too big for us and just got shellacked in Game 2 en route to a 4-1 series loss. That team had Nash with a lot of playoff experience, but that was pretty much it... much like CP3.

Like it or not, but the Lakers are the defending champs, they have a lot of experience when the pressure is REALLY on. We've yet to see how we handle that. A lot of times, first crack at the playoffs are learning experiences. I think we can overcome those against teams that aren't title tested and who I think we're generally better than... the Mavs, Portlands, Warriors of the world.
Good post, although I simply am not as terrified of them as you are.
 

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The refs are a wild card, sure, but I'd like to see the reasoning that the Lakers would "wipe" the floor with us. I don't see that as a given against them at all.
I think if healthy they have the best two players in the series. And we don’t have the personnel to counter those two players effectively. Lebron overpowers all of our wings and we don’t have a legit athletic power forward to use on him. And we literally have no answer for Davis. He’ll take deandre outside and tool on him. Not to mention deandre will be busy wrestling Drummond to keep him off the boards. The rest of the lakers are role players but they hit the three and play defense and for whatever reason that Tucker kid just eats us alive.
 

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On sports center Kendrick Perkins throwing words around like “he never won a championship” after finding out Steve Nash said losing 4 in a row was a good thing for the nets.
 

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I think if healthy they have the best two players in the series. And we don’t have the personnel to counter those two players effectively. Lebron overpowers all of our wings and we don’t have a legit athletic power forward to use on him. And we literally have no answer for Davis. He’ll take deandre outside and tool on him. Not to mention deandre will be busy wrestling Drummond to keep him off the boards. The rest of the lakers are role players but they hit the three and play defense and for whatever reason that Tucker kid just eats us alive.

All of this and the Suns need a healthy Jae Crowder.

The thing going for the Suns is the Lakers may not be fully healthy and the team chemistry the Suns have developed.
 

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On sports center Kendrick Perkins throwing words around like “he never won a championship” after finding out Steve Nash said losing 4 in a row was a good thing for the nets.

I'm with Kendrick Perkins. Losing four games in a row is never a good thing.

It must be nice to have so much talent to even entertain this thought.
 

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I'm with Kendrick Perkins. Losing four games in a row is never a good thing.

It must be nice to have so much talent to even entertain this thought.

it worries me a little that the Nets have been REALLY pedestrian with just Kyrie and Durant and yet they handled us so easily a couple weeks ago. Same with the Hawks.

maybe I just need to see a convincing win over a good team right now. We’ve def won some tough games against good teams recently (Knicks, Sixers and Bucks) but they were all by the hair of our chinny chin chin.
 

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"It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or by a mile....winning is winning"

Just saying
 

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it worries me a little that the Nets have been REALLY pedestrian with just Kyrie and Durant and yet they handled us so easily a couple weeks ago. Same with the Hawks.

maybe I just need to see a convincing win over a good team right now. We’ve def won some tough games against good teams recently (Knicks, Sixers and Bucks) but they were all by the hair of our chinny chin chin.

The Suns need to get some rest and stoke the fire. I think they are wore down a bit physically and mentally. The season ending schedule has been brutal.
 

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I'm with Kendrick Perkins. Losing four games in a row is never a good thing.

It must be nice to have so much talent to even entertain this thought.
I don't disagree.
His words hit me right in the feels though.

The polished hammer agrees with perk
 

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I don't disagree.
His words hit me right in the feels though.

The polished hammer agrees with perk

I guess I will need to see the quote or the video for context. Still I think embracing losing four games in a row is the wrong message.

Maybe Nash was trying to make lemonade out of lemons?
 

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Donovan Mitchell continues to make progress towards return.

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