Jalen Green 'Preciation Thread

[Adrian]

Robbie
@SunsAreBetter
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2h
Next to Devin Booker, Jalen Green is averaging 26.4 PTS per 36 minutes on 55.3 TS% with 4.4 AST (25 GP).

That would be a career-best PTS per 36, career-best AST per 36, on career-best TS% efficiency.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

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I mean its good but its not. It's like biscuits with no gravy

 

[SirStefan32]

Green is really intriguing.His defense has been a nice surprise. He is not a defensive stopper, but he seems to be a plus defender, or at worst, slightly above average,
On offense, he is very quick, and can get to the rim, which is something they really need on this roster. I really like him when he lets the game come to him. Pass the ball, move, score. I really dislike him when he starts to go for isolation. I can't tell if he just has very low basketball IQ or if he just needs to learn to play within the flow of the game. It's really hard to tell because he missed so many games. If he can learn how to be a scorer within the flow of the game, he will be insanely good. He just needs to stop the iso stuff, realize he is not a great distributor, and quit being a ball stopper. I just haven't seen enough of him this year to even guess whether or not it's low basketball IQ or just learning how to play in a new system.

 

[leclerc]

Based on the numbers at that sample size, he plays well with Booker. He provides scoring which we have lacked at times, and going to the hole is a big plus. Should not be a problem for him to dish it out to open shooter on the same side of the hoop, like a Collin Gillespie, or a hockey assist.

That our game has dropped off when he got back from injury might be a coincidence. Ott is not doing us any favours benching the (healthy) energy and defense guys and going small. Mark Williams must get involved.

 

[Hoop Head]

Based on the numbers at that sample size, he plays well with Booker. He provides scoring which we have lacked at times, and going to the hole is a big plus. Should not be a problem for him to dish it out to open shooter on the same side of the hoop, like a Collin Gillespie, or a hockey assist.

That our game has dropped off when he got back from injury might be a coincidence. Ott is not doing us any favours benching the (healthy) energy and defense guys and going small. Mark Williams must get involved.

It's also that time of the year/season when teams start separating from the pack. Less trial and error with more game planning. If Green came back a month earlier it would have dramatically changed how things are playing out. Ott is taking some lumps but hopefully a healthy Dillon and Williams can be worked back into things before the postseason..

 

[djm75]

Robbie
@SunsAreBetter
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2h
Next to Devin Booker, Jalen Green is averaging 26.4 PTS per 36 minutes on 55.3 TS% with 4.4 AST (25 GP).

That would be a career-best PTS per 36, career-best AST per 36, on career-best TS% efficiency.

On career-best efficiency but he’s the worst shooter on the team.

 

[Adrian]

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[Adrian]

Skip Bayless
@RealSkipBayless
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49m
Before their draft, I thought Jalen Green would be a little better than Cade Cunningham because Jalen was a way better shooter than Cade was at OkSt. Obviously Cade has proven to be mentally/physically tougher. But Jalen, away from Ime, is now exploding as a shooter/scorer.

 

[Hoop Head]

Skip Bayless
@RealSkipBayless
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49m
Before their draft, I thought Jalen Green would be a little better than Cade Cunningham because Jalen was a way better shooter than Cade was at OkSt. Obviously Cade has proven to be mentally/physically tougher. But Jalen, away from Ime, is now exploding as a shooter/scorer.

I never would have guessed Cade would be the better PG of the 2. Better player, sure, but not point guard.

Really happy for Jalen, seems like such a good kid.

 

[Adrian]

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[Adrian]

When he is on and the ball leaves his hand, his shoot looks so sweet.

 

[Adrian]

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[Adrian]

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[Adrian]

Evan Sidery
@esidery
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7h
Jalen Green’s Play-In statistics:

35.5 points
5.5 rebounds
3 assists
3 stocks
68.7 TS%

For the Suns to pull off a competitive series against the Thunder, Green will need to keep this heater going.

 

[Adrian]

Phoenix Suns
@Suns
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2h
Jalen Green. Made for the moment

Last night, he became the first Suns player in ANY NBA game to have 35+ PTS, 5+ 3PM, 3+ BLK, 2+ STL

 

[Adrian]

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[BooksOrangePlanet]

lots of talk about jalen green and the recent acquisitions - or should i say acquis-ish-tions - sorry - i know it's early and you didn't deserve that

point is - ish is running point - if we're trying to predict the suns moves we should try and do it from his point of view

ish said we were running it back and we are not - idk if homie changed his mind or was just saying all the right things - honestly i don't think anybody but book and brooks is safe

if you're on a rookie contract you're probably good - if you've recently (like in the last 2 weeks) inked a deal you're probably good

hippie safe list:

booker
brooks
dunn oso maluach fleming koa
gillespie goody williams
miles kennard spencer
i think we locked ye in too
highsmith????

jalen green is a complex situation - super complex - super talented - but super focused almost to fault - jalen let's it fly man - doesn't matter if it goes in jalen is shooting again - and again

and again - seriously - and when he's on it's a thing of beauty - it's allen iverson-esque - it's unstoppable and thrilling to watch

but how often is he on?

to me - you can see it right away - he will let you know within the first few minutes/possessions

but is there a reason for jalen green to be on the floor when he's not allen iverson?

the answer is no - ott wants our offense to flow with constant ball movement to keep the double off booker and the 3 pt shooters open - plus it looks like we're invading the paint this year with size

if you're ish you have to decide if the suns need anything else on the roster - if not you can afford to keep jalen green - who will single handedly win you games this season (idk how many)

if ish decides the roster is lacking he has jalen green and/or a few first round draft picks - but we need our draft picks - youth is all the craze right now

i'll probably take some homer heat for this but i say keep him - buckets getters like jalen aren't exactly in high demand right now

if we were to trade jalen it might not be for the return but more for the salary dump - and if we're looking to dump salary i imagine ish would want draft picks - which again - have become highly coveted

but then again who knows - i definitely don't

 

[Hoop Head]

One of the worst things we could do is let his deal expire. We're over the cap regardless so it doesn't create options to let him walk for no return. It's extend or trade, I'd lean towards trade at this point but that's only guessing his value isn't in the toilet

 

[AzStevenCal]

One of the worst things we could do is let his deal expire. We're over the cap regardless so it doesn't create options to let him walk for no return. It's extend or trade, I'd lean towards trade at this point but that's only guessing his value isn't in the toilet

I'm not so sure. We're looking at a new era in the NBA, one where bad contracts are actually frowned upon. In the old NBA, you did not let value walk out the door but times have changed. I don't know if Green is worth keeping or not but hopefully Ott and company have a good feel for what his future will be.

 

[Chaplin]

One of the worst things we could do is let his deal expire. We're over the cap regardless so it doesn't create options to let him walk for no return. It's extend or trade, I'd lean towards trade at this point but that's only guessing his value isn't in the toilet

Contrary to what Phrazbit insists, Green's value isn't in the toilet. He's still a good player on a contract that is unfortunately hard for other teams to swallow, regardless of whether he's worth it or not. Just like Book. Just like Durant. Just like many other top 100 players in the league. For every Giannis trade, there's a Jaylen Brown trade.

 

[Superbone]

ish said we were running it back and we are not - idk if homie changed his mind or was just saying all the right things - honestly i don't think anybody but book and brooks is safe

So, if you have a b, o, o, k in your name, you're good? Book'em, Danno!

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

i don't think now is the time to trade jalen green - not with all the free agents looking for signatures

during the season - before the deadline - who knows - some team might be desperate for some pure offense - if jalen is producing at a high rate when that team comes knocking maybe we can get some valuable capital

 

[JCSunsfan]

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They did this because of how vulnerable he is as a pg.

Green is a great player and instant offense. He would be just fine on this team if we didn’t have Devin Booker. But they both play the same role—primary scorer. They do it in different ways, but they each detract from the other when on the floor together.

Both have contracts where you won’t get the value back if you tried to trade them. Booker might be less valuable in trade than Green because of Book’s contract and age.

I don’t see anything they can do except keep them and try to play them, just probably not together.

If another team has a player on a similar co tract to Green, and they really want scoring, we could move him for a player and a pick or two (a first, a couple seconds). If Chicago wants a young primary scorer maybe?

 

[Raindog]

They did this because of how vulnerable he is as a pg.

Green is a great player and instant offense. He would be just fine on this team if we didn’t have Devin Booker. But they both play the same role—primary scorer. They do it in different ways, but they each detract from the other when on the floor together.

Both have contracts where you won’t get the value back if you tried to trade them. Booker might be less valuable in trade than Green because of Book’s contract and age.

I don’t see anything they can do except keep them and try to play them, just probably not together.

If another team has a player on a similar co tract to Green, and they really want scoring, we could move him for a player and a pick or two (a first, a couple seconds). If Chicago wants a young primary scorer maybe?

Chicago for sure is a good match. They don't have a primary scorer to build around. They just drafted a young guy who could be that in Caleb Wilson, and they signed Norman Powell. Supposedly, they want to move Josh Giddey so they can get Coby White back in the lineup as a more athletic PG, as they are trying to build a team that is high flying and athletically oriented.

So, a Green for Giddey type of trade would work well for both teams. The Suns need a floor leader who can play a more half court oriented game, and the Bulls are moving towards a more explosive profile lineup. Plus, the contracts also line up nearly perfectly.