Who’s our next qb?

[Gandhi]

There is significant financial differences between pick 3 and pick 30.
You want the 5th year of control in case the guy works out. But at the same time you want it for as little financial investment as possible.

Yes, but I doubt it is relevant. Also, it’s not my money, so I don’t care much about that.

 

[Gandhi]

I wouldn't. While Resse has some question marks, and I'm not advocating him at 3, he's a consensus top 5 talent and you'll be lucky to find Simpson inside anyone's top 15-20. That would be the definition of a reach. I guess if you're going to reach, a QB would be the position to do it. But what if Bailey/Reese/Bain turns out to be a Will Anderson type and then Monti will have passed on a

If the quarterback works out, there is no such thing as a reach. It is always worth it. And if you don't believe enough in Simpson, why would you use a first-round pick on him?

 

[slanidrac16]

If the quarterback works out, there is no such thing as a reach. It is always worth it. And if you don't believe enough in Simpson, why would you use a first-round pick on him?

We have been adding draft picks and it really hasn’t been working out.
I say go big or go home.

Free agency is the key. We must sign the best right tackle in free agency. In addition we have to sign a solid rb and there are a lot of them available.

With the #3 pick you take a game changer. Bailey is the guy. Pair him up with Sweat and we can reek havoc on Qb’s.

Now here’s the key. Unless Simpson totally lights it up at the combine or Mendoza falls to us which won’t happen, we can’t pass on a blue chip like Bailey. That means we have to get bold and move back up in the first round to get Simpson.

Yes Monti, we’ll have to give up some draft picks to get Simpson IF IF IF he is our guy. Otherwise we use our second pick for (fill in the name) qb.

 

[GatorAZ]

If the quarterback works out, there is no such thing as a reach. It is always worth it. And if you don't believe enough in Simpson, why would you use a first-round pick on him?

Depends how strongly they believe in him. It’s not an identical situation but in 2019 the Giants wanted Daniel Jones in a bad QB draft but couldn’t risk him falling to their next pick so they reached for him at #6. They were ultimately sold enough that he was their franchise guy (spoiler alert, he wasn’t).

Last year facing a similar situation they like Jaxson Dart but not enough to take him over Abdul Carter. They were able to move up in the last first rd and end up with both players. I think that’s more of the formula Monti will try to pull off.

 

[Stout]

Yes, but I doubt it is relevant. Also, it’s not my money, so I don’t care much about that.

Let's just say I hope Monti doesn't fall into this illogical trap. You are trying to galaxy brain a very simple situation. You aren't the smartest guy in the room and neither is Monti.

 

[Stout]

If the quarterback works out, there is no such thing as a reach. It is always worth it. And if you don't believe enough in Simpson, why would you use a first-round pick on him?

You are so far gonzo on this topic there's probably not a way back for you lol

 

[Gandhi]

Free agency is the key. We must sign the best right tackle in free agency. In addition we have to sign a solid rb and there are a lot of them available.

Yes, you are right. If they don’t sign a top RT in free agency, there is no way I am going defense in the first round.

 

[Gandhi]

Last year facing a similar situation they like Jaxson Dart but not enough to take him over Abdul Carter. They were able to move up in the last first rd and end up with both players. I think that’s more of the formula Monti will try to pull off.

If someone else had taken Dart, and he ended up working out, the Giants had made a major mistake, no matter how good Carter will become. That is my point.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

If someone else had taken Dart, and he ended up working out, the Giants had made a major mistake, no matter how good Carter will become. That is my point.

But that didn't happen. Their GM knew when to make the deal. Same with the Ravens trading back into round 1 for Lamar.
You can play the what if game with any draft pick. What if they pass on Bailey and he goes on to become a premier pass rusher?
I'd rather take the better prospect and, if someone takes Simpson prior to making a deal, then I move on to next year's QB class.

If Simpson was a clean prospect, he'd be ranked right up there. The Jets need a QB every bit as much as the Cards, maybe more, and you don't see/hear any talk of them taking Simpson while there was plenty of talk about Moore until he decided to return to Oregon.

 

[BritCard]

Just putting this out there for when I'm right but I like Garrett Nussmeier.

I know his star has slipped after a season he played hurt and had some coaching issues, but at the start of this year he was generally considered the best QB in the draft. He's currently consensus pick #65 which I think is way too low. I think he will go late 1st or early 2nd.

Mendoza is the best QB in the draft but as an NFL ready prospect Nussmeier is 2nd for me. I think he's better than Simpson, Beck or Chambliss.

I'd really like if we could get him in the 2nd but I have a feeling that the Rams might take him late 1st.

 

[Gandhi]

But that didn't happen. Their GM knew when to make the deal. Same with the Ravens trading back into round 1 for Lamar.
You can play the what if game with any draft pick. What if they pass on Bailey and he goes on to become a premier pass rusher?

Sure, and the most simple solution is to take Simpson at #3 overall. How do we know that there are not several other teams that are kicking themselves because they lost out on Dart and Jackson?

I'd rather take the better prospect and, if someone takes Simpson prior to making a deal, then I move on to next year's QB class.

Well, this might be the biggest reason why fans disagree in this. I am not willing to wait a year. I am tired of embarrassment, and I don’t want to punt on the season a long time before the games even start. Obviously I can be forced to.

By the way, I am not saying I would not be okay with a mediocre season, as long as they are competitive. Maybe that is with Brissett, a second day draft pick, or somehow else. That might be okay.

If Simpson was a clean prospect, he'd be ranked right up there. The Jets need a QB every bit as much as the Cards, maybe more, and you don't see/hear any talk of them taking Simpson while there was plenty of talk about Moore until he decided to return to Oregon.

Give it time. The analysts could easily rank him that high when the draft comes closer.

 

[slanidrac16]

Views on all these qb’s are going to change after the combine. All these qb’s will probably move up the board.

 

[unseenaz]

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[unseenaz]

Views on all these qb’s are going to change after the combine. All these qb’s will probably move up the board.

Happens every single year. We all get so focused on the QBs in the CFB Playoffs - there's going to be some small school dudes who impress at the combine.

 

[Adrian]

According to PFSN, the team is projected to select Carson Beck in the upcoming selection process. It is the kind of prediction that doesn’t scream inevitability, but lingers all the same, growing louder the longer Murray’s future remains unresolved.

Cardinals Predicted To Select 96-TD QB in 2026 NFL Draft With Kyler Murray’s Future Uncertain

With Kyler Murray’s short-term future now sealed, the Cardinals are left staring down a much larger question: is this also the beginning of the end?

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[PACardsFan]

Heard rumors that QB Carr might come out of retirement for the right situation. Would the Cardinals go that route & then draft a QB like Simpson or Beck & let them sit for a year or two? Never been a Carr fan, but he’s better than Brissett. Or is he?

 

[TRW]

Heard rumors that QB Carr might come out of retirement for the right situation. Would the Cardinals go that route & then draft a QB like Simpson or Beck & let them sit for a year or two? Never been a Carr fan, but he’s better than Brissett. Or is he?

I would say marginally. He's prone to the turnover at the worst possible time like Brissett is sometimes. Plus, he's kind of been busted up the last couple of years. So, I would hope against that.

 

[daves]

Heard rumors that QB Carr might come out of retirement for the right situation. Would the Cardinals go that route & then draft a QB like Simpson or Beck & let them sit for a year or two? Never been a Carr fan, but he’s better than Brissett. Or is he?

You think the Cardinals would be the "right situation" to lure Carr out of retirement?!

 

[PACardsFan]

You think the Cardinals would be the "right situation" to lure Carr out of retirement?!

Once Murray is gone, we’ll be in desperation mode, especially if Bidwill expects to turn this around quickly like he says he is. Outside of Mendoza, no QB coming out of this draft will be ready to start an NFL game. But, can anyone trust what comes out Bidwill’s mouth?

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Once Murray is gone, we’ll be in desperation mode

This is true

Which is why whoever we bring in as HC needs to be able to coach up players, especially the QB

We've heard it from many of our coaches and have seen little results

 

[Denny Green Fan]

Sure, and the most simple solution is to take Simpson at #3 overall. How do we know that there are not several other teams that are kicking themselves because they lost out on Dart and Jackson?


Well, this might be the biggest reason why fans disagree in this. I am not willing to wait a year. I am tired of embarrassment, and I don’t want to punt on the season a long time before the games even start. Obviously I can be forced to.

By the way, I am not saying I would not be okay with a mediocre season, as long as they are competitive. Maybe that is with Brissett, a second day draft pick, or somehow else. That might be okay.


Give it time. The analysts could easily rank him that high when the draft comes closer.

The jets probably think they can get him at 16. ……also heard a rumor the Steelers love Simpson….if lafleur wants him at 3 he will be the pick

 

[oaken1]

You think the Cardinals would be the "right situation" to lure Carr out of retirement?!

Will the check clear?

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

Just putting this out there for when I'm right but I like Garrett Nussmeier.

I know his star has slipped after a season he played hurt and had some coaching issues, but at the start of this year he was generally considered the best QB in the draft. He's currently consensus pick #65 which I think is way too low. I think he will go late 1st or early 2nd.

Mendoza is the best QB in the draft but as an NFL ready prospect Nussmeier is 2nd for me. I think he's better than Simpson, Beck or Chambliss.

I'd really like if we could get him in the 2nd but I have a feeling that the Rams might take him late 1st.

Im down with this. He was a really highly ranked draft pick going into this season and ultimately unfolded into a bad situation.

If we blew a second round pick on him- it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world to recover from.

 

[slanidrac16]

Imagine:
Matt LaFluer: Hi little brother, congrats!
Mike LaFluer: Thank Bro. Hey I want to pick your brain about Malik Willis…..

 

[Jetstream Green]

As a late round or high priority rookie free agent, anyone have an opinion on Jack Strand out of MSU Moorehead