Who’s our next qb?

[kerouac9]

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This needs to be our philosophy

They always say this tho. I’m sure Monti said something similar.

 

[Stout]

Simpson will not last until the second round. Some team will take him in the middle or end of round one. He seems like he'd be a good choice for the Rams at 13, the Jets at 16, the Steelers at 21, or the Browns at 24.

They are more than welcome to overdraft him.

I still say let's tempt the Stillers into believing a slightly used K1 is a good bet

 

[jf-08]

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[netsnjkidd]

Chambliss looks like Kyler 2.0. No way he is as tall as he is listed.

The guys in vid I posted said he is like kyler with less arm strength but with every intangible(leadership, toughness, no ego, clutch)

 

[Brian in Mesa]

The guys in vid I posted said he is like kyler with less arm strength but with every intangible(leadership, toughness, no ego, clutch)

I think Steve Keim just liked to draft short dudes for some reason. Hindsight is 20/20 but I bet a proper interview may have led to not drafting KM number one overall. Brief college career and not really leader material according to others who played with him.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I just did a mock draft and took Allar in round 5. See, I like PSU guys Stout

 

[Stout]

I just did a mock draft and took Allar in round 5. See, I like PSU guys Stout

No brainer pick in the 5th

 

[Gandhi]

The Senior Bowl starts next week, and I would advise you to at least focus a little on the quarterbacks, since one of them could realistically be in the squad for next season.

Sawyer Robinson has been a personal favorite all season. He might be one of the best throwers in the draft, but he makes too many bad decisions. He has a chance to develop into a good starter.

Cole Payton is another of my a-little-under-the-radar favorites. He is a long-term project, but certainly an interesting one. He plays for North Dakota State, but has only been a starter for one season, even though he is a fifth year senior. He is reminiscent of Baker Mayfield.

Taylen Green has all the talent in the world, but unfortunately he couldn’t hit the water from the beach. Could be an intriguing practice squad developmental guy.

The director of the event has said that they have extended open invitations to two more quarterbacks, but it is a secret who it is. Based on rumors, likely one of them is Carson Beck which would certainly be interesting.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Not sure if they'll retain him but Connor Senger of the Cards is the OC in the East-West Shrine game. Should get some good insight. They have until Feb. 1 to decide to keep him or not.

 

[slanidrac16]

The Senior Bowl starts next week, and I would advise you to at least focus a little on the quarterbacks, since one of them could realistically be in the squad for next season.

Sawyer Robinson has been a personal favorite all season. He might be one of the best throwers in the draft, but he makes too many bad decisions. He has a chance to develop into a good starter.

Cole Payton is another of my a-little-under-the-radar favorites. He is a long-term project, but certainly an interesting one. He plays for North Dakota State, but has only been a starter for one season, even though he is a fifth year senior. He is reminiscent of Baker Mayfield.

Taylen Green has all the talent in the world, but unfortunately he couldn’t hit the water from the beach. Could be an intriguing practice squad developmental guy.

The director of the event has said that they have extended open invitations to two more quarterbacks, but it is a secret who it is. Based on rumors, likely one of them is Carson Beck which would certainly be interesting.

As always, I Appreciate the post and info. However, our needs are now. Worrying about developing potential at this point is way down on my list. Any potential qb for us is going to be a second round pick and not some 5th/6th round stab in the dark.

 

[Gandhi]

As always, I Appreciate the post and info. However, our needs are now. Worrying about developing potential at this point is way down on my list. Any potential qb for us is going to be a second round pick and not some 5th/6th round stab in the dark.

I would actually prefer both. Anyway, I agree that it is about here and now, but I don't think there is any obvious solution to that. I really like Ty Simpson, but it is a gamble to take him at #3, and he will be gone at #34. Right now, I think it makes sense to bring in more than one new QB - simply throwing darts - and that is why I think it could be relevant to study guys that will get drafted on day two or three.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

I would actually prefer both. Anyway, I agree that it is about here and now, but I don't think there is any obvious solution to that. I really like Ty Simpson, but it is a gamble to take him at #3, and he will be gone at #34. Right now, I think it makes sense to bring in more than one new QB - simply throwing darts - and that is why I think it could be relevant to study guys that will get drafted on day two or three.

Could mills win here if we go o line at 3 and beef up the run game? Or do you prefer Bailey and say…dunker? …and mills or a nuss? ….

 

[Denny Green Fan]

I would actually prefer both. Anyway, I agree that it is about here and now, but I don't think there is any obvious solution to that. I really like Ty Simpson, but it is a gamble to take him at #3, and he will be gone at #34. Right now, I think it makes sense to bring in more than one new QB - simply throwing darts - and that is why I think it could be relevant to study guys that will get drafted on day two or three.

I seen a trade I liked…we give jets Kyler…and 34 plus a 2027 third for pick 16…we get Simpson at 16

 

[Jetstream Green]

I just did a mock draft and took Allar in round 5. See, I like PSU guys Stout

I would like the Cards to draft Dani Dennis-Sutton the DE out of PSU in the mid rounds

 

[Gandhi]

Could mills win here if we go o line at 3 and beef up the run game? Or do you prefer Bailey and say…dunker? …and mills or a nuss? ….

I am sorry, DGF, but I am not sure who Mills and Dunker are. Anyway, right now there is absolutely 0% chance that I would even consider to go defense at #3 - primarily because of last offseason, but also because of what the team needs the most. I am well aware that opinions will change before the draft (it’s just how the process works), but right now I am debating between Mauigoa and Simpson at #3.

And yes, I agree that your trade scenario would be wonderful.

 

[slanidrac16]

Could mills win here if we go o line at 3 and beef up the run game? Or do you prefer Bailey and say…dunker? …and mills or a nuss? ….

Sign the best free agent RT and RB in free agency.
Take Bailey with the #3 pick. Trade the second pick + to move into the first round and draft Simpson.

 

[oaken1]

As always, I Appreciate the post and info. However, our needs are now. Worrying about developing potential at this point is way down on my list. Any potential qb for us is going to be a second round pick and not some 5th/6th round stab in the dark.

no matter where we pick a QB we need to have someone on the roster who can properly develop him.
otherwise we are screwed.

 

[oaken1]

I would actually prefer both. Anyway, I agree that it is about here and now, but I don't think there is any obvious solution to that. I really like Ty Simpson, but it is a gamble to take him at #3, and he will be gone at #34. Right now, I think it makes sense to bring in more than one new QB - simply throwing darts - and that is why I think it could be relevant to study guys that will get drafted on day two or three.

there are a few QB's that I would use 34 and trade back into round 1 to pick.
that 5th year of control is more important with QB's than other positions.

so if you want Simpson...dont think "will he be there at 34?"...think. "will he be there at 28?"...because 28-32 is the range to trade back to

 

[PACardsFan]

I am sorry, DGF, but I am not sure who Mills and Dunker are. Anyway, right now there is absolutely 0% chance that I would even consider to go defense at #3 - primarily because of last offseason, but also because of what the team needs the most. I am well aware that opinions will change before the draft (it’s just how the process works), but right now I am debating between Mauigoa and Simpson at #3.

And yes, I agree that your trade scenario would be wonderful.

Simpson at 3???? Lol. I wouldn’t be surprised though. Only because I’ve been watching these moron Bidwills make choices like that for 62 years now!

 

[slanidrac16]

there are a few QB's that I would use 34 and trade back into round 1 to pick.
that 5th year of control is more important with QB's than other positions.

so if you want Simpson...dont think "will he be there at 34?"...think. "will he be there at 28?"...because 28-32 is the range to trade back to

Yes

 

[Gandhi]

so if you want Simpson...dont think "will he be there at 34?"...think. "will he be there at 28?"...because 28-32 is the range to trade back to

I disagree a bit. If you are willing to spend a first-round pick on a quarterback, why are you not willing to spend the #3 pick on him? I obviously understand it would be great to take Simpson later, but it is the NFL. QB’s are drafted high, especially if their upside is as big as Simpson’s. Also, what if you lose him? Is that just okay, even though you thought he was worthy of a first-round pick? Maybe it is. Like you, I also have some ideas for #34, which is why I am debating with myself.

However, I also know that everyone’s opinion could easily change, so maybe I am more sure in late April.

 

[Gandhi]

Simpson at 3???? Lol. I wouldn’t be surprised though. Only because I’ve been watching these moron Bidwills make choices like that for 62 years now!

If you question taking him at #3, then you don’t want Simpson. It is just how it works. Ideally, I would like him later in the first round, but not only do QB’s simply get pushed up, but especially this offseason, the demand for QB’s is way bigger than the supply.

Further, you need to look at the context when evaluating Simpson. I have never seen a worse Alabama offense since I started following the NCAA about 20 years ago. Horrible offensive line, no running game, receivers consistently dropping balls. They got to the playoffs because of Simpson. He won games for them. When you are evaluating college quarterbacks, the first thing you should do is to just notice if he is the best player on the field, and Simpson was that. Immediately that makes him intriguing.

Having said that, this thread is about the quarterback next season and not specifically about evaluating Simpson, so I want to mention that I see other possibilities being to draft someone at #34 (I expect Carson Beck to be drafted around there), signing Malik Willis (probably most likely if they get Mike LaFleur), or simply to go with Brissett (a top 5-7 backup QB in the NFL). The idea that you would use a first-round pick on Simpson and then let him sit and learn for a year is ignorant. Sure, it would be ideal, but history should have taught people something, in my mind.

 

[oaken1]

I disagree a bit. If you are willing to spend a first-round pick on a quarterback, why are you not willing to spend the #3 pick on him? I obviously understand it would be great to take Simpson later, but it is the NFL. QB’s are drafted high, especially if their upside is as big as Simpson’s. Also, what if you lose him? Is that just okay, even though you thought he was worthy of a first-round pick? Maybe it is. Like you, I also have some ideas for #34, which is why I am debating with myself.

However, I also know that everyone’s opinion could easily change, so maybe I am more sure in late April.

There is significant financial differences between pick 3 and pick 30.
You want the 5th year of control in case the guy works out. But at the same time you want it for as little financial investment as possible.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

If you question taking him at #3, then you don’t want Simpson. It is just how it works. Ideally, I would like him later in the first round, but not only do QB’s simply get pushed up, but especially this offseason, the demand for QB’s is way bigger than the supply.

Further, you need to look at the context when evaluating Simpson. I have never seen a worse Alabama offense since I started following the NCAA about 20 years ago. Horrible offensive line, no running game, receivers consistently dropping balls. They got to the playoffs because of Simpson. He won games for them. When you are evaluating college quarterbacks, the first thing you should do is to just notice if he is the best player on the field, and Simpson was that. Immediately that makes him intriguing.

Having said that, this thread is about the quarterback next season and not specifically about evaluating Simpson, so I want to mention that I see other possibilities being to draft someone at #34 (I expect Carson Beck to be drafted around there), signing Malik Willis (probably most likely if they get Mike LaFleur), or simply to go with Brissett (a top 5-7 backup QB in the NFL). The idea that you would use a first-round pick on Simpson and then let him sit and learn for a year is ignorant. Sure, it would be ideal, but history should have taught people something, in my mind.

I will say this if we are gonna gamble I would take Simpson over Reese at 3 any day

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I will say this if we are gonna gamble I would take Simpson over Reese at 3 any day

I wouldn't. While Resse has some question marks, and I'm not advocating him at 3, he's a consensus top 5 talent and you'll be lucky to find Simpson inside anyone's top 15-20. That would be the definition of a reach. I guess if you're going to reach, a QB would be the position to do it. But what if Bailey/Reese/Bain turns out to be a Will Anderson type and then Monti will have passed on a premier pass rusher twice.
I like the idea of picking at 3 and then trading back later into round 1 and getting Simpson. Sure, it comes with risk but it's Monti's job to be able read the tea leaves and know when to make a move. That was Keim's flaw in the draft, staying put and hoping the player they want falls to them.