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[ASUCHRIS]

That's not exactly an endorsement. I take issue with the nepotism on display with this franchise. It's not a personal attack on Ott or you. I don't "hate" the guy. I just see red flags about the people being put in charge of this franchise when the owner himself expressed "major" change.

The question isn't of course whether you can find one shred of evidence that he might be qualified, a la Gregory - the question is, is this the most qualified candidate available for the position.

With both Gregory and Ott, there is very little evidence that either fit that qualification.

 

[Chaplin]

The question isn't of course whether you can find one shred of evidence that he might be qualified, a la Gregory - the question is, is this the most qualified candidate available for the position.

With both Gregory and Ott, there is very little evidence that either fit that qualification.

For Gregory, yes, but what is your reasoning behind your statement about Ott? His qualifications aren't that much different than Bryant's, and in fact, based on titles and roles, Ott seems to have been in more elevated positions than Bryant recently.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

For Gregory, yes, but what is your reasoning behind your statement about Ott? His qualifications aren't that much different than Bryant's, and in fact, based on titles and roles, Ott seems to have been in more elevated positions than Bryant recently.

Do you think either of them are the best candidates available?

 

[Chaplin]

Do you think either of them are the best candidates available?

But that's not the question. To answer it, I'd say no, I really liked Chris Quinn as a candidate, but again, that's irrelevant in this discussion.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

But that's not the question. To answer it, I'd say no, I really liked Chris Quinn as a candidate, but again, that's irrelevant in this discussion.

That is the question. Your position is that there are others around him that have similar levels of qualification, which is nice, but not that important. My focus is on whether or not he's the best available candidate of all candidates in the entire world.

Shouldn't that be the goal?

 

[Chaplin]

That is the question. Your position is that there are others around him that have similar levels of qualification, which is nice, but not that important. My focus is on whether or not he's the best available candidate of all candidates in the entire world.

Shouldn't that be the goal?

Again that wasn't the question. He has arguably better credentials (or at least even with Bryant), but if the discussion was about whether he was one of the best candidates, that's a separate discussion. What we're talking about here, is the elevating of Bryant over Ott simply because Ott was a Michigan State alum. That is disregarding the credentials altogether, regardless of whether either one is the best candidate.

 

[Chaplin]

That is the question. Your position is that there are others around him that have similar levels of qualification, which is nice, but not that important. My focus is on whether or not he's the best available candidate of all candidates in the entire world.

Shouldn't that be the goal?

And of course the underlying goal is to have the best candidate possible, but we have what we have and that's all we have to work with. What makes Bryant a better candidate than Ott? That's the real question. Instead, Ott is considered the lesser candidate not because of his resume, but because he went to Michigan State. I'd like to understand what else besides that makes people's opinion move to Bryant instead.

The key to me is to compare the two and disregard the Michigan state connection. Ott certainly isn't as unqualified to be an NBA coach as much as Gregory is unqualified to be an NBA GM.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

You don't like the framing because you feel it's discriminatory because he's a Sparty. I'm most concerned about getting the best candidates.

 

[Chaplin]

You don't like the framing because you feel it's discriminatory because he's a Sparty. I'm most concerned about getting the best candidates.

Ok. Forget it.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns are looking for the best head coach for them. The criteria is in the link below. It basically consists of five things.

Here is one:


Article by Donnie Druin | May 18, 2025, Sports Illustrated:

"Number one, they want the next coach to build a program - build a program from scratch. That's going to consist of holding guys accountable, implementing a structure and making sure there's discipline within the franchise when it comes to the players in the program.

Suns Reveal What They Want in Next HC

The Phoenix Suns want these five things in their next head coach.

www.si.com

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

bryant is credited with helping mitchell reach the next level - not ott - mitchell is a shooting guard - book is a shooting guard and we're looking to disband our big 3 - bryant also holds the higher position within the organization - when the head coach in cleveland gets booted bryant takes the reigns - not ott

im not saying it's a cult - yet - and im not saying bryant would want more control over the team than ott - who would probably be more grateful - flexible - and gregory about the opportunity considering he's the weaker of the 2 remaining candidates - because idk

but bryant sounds like the clear hire here on merits and ott does kinda come off as mishigan state

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm not sure what all your problems are here. You want to attack me for my interpretation of the general feelings of the board, have at it. It's small and petty.

As far as your last sentence, that is actually my opinion as well. So not sure why you and Cheese have to go full negative on me. Well, I understand you, but Cheese I'm a little more confused about.

Pointing out that I don’t see the hate that you see and saying agree to disagree is going full negative? Figured we didn’t see eye to eye and I’d leave it at that.

 

[Cheesebeef]

For Gregory, yes, but what is your reasoning behind your statement about Ott? His qualifications aren't that much different than Bryant's, and in fact, based on titles and roles, Ott seems to have been in more elevated positions than Bryant recently.

Not sure about that last statement. Bryant is elevated over Ott right now as the associate head coach, while both coach on the same team. Can’t get more recent than that.

 

[Chaplin]

Not sure about that last statement. Bryant is elevated over Ott right now as the associate head coach, while both coach on the same team. Can’t get more recent than that.

Ah, I got them mixed up there, with "associate" and "assistant". Thanks for the correction.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

bryant could possibly land the knicks head coaching gig that just opened up - which would pretty much make us mishigan state us for sure

 

[Phrazbit]

Thibs would be a great hire, the exact kind of hard nosed coach that can make below average talent at least interesting to watch. However, Thibs probably wouldn’t be interested unless an offer blows his doors off and I doubt Ishbia wants to give out another guaranteed $10 million a year coaching contract.

 

[Finito]

Thibs needs to be this teams next head coach. We need a culture change we need defense, accountability and hard work.

Thibs isn’t a championship caliber head coach but we aren’t close to a championship but he’s a great head coach for a young team trying to find its way.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

thibs isn't happening

 

[Folster]

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Leaked by the team we have been negotiating with.

 

[Folster]

Thibs needs to be this teams next head coach. We need a culture change we need defense, accountability and hard work.

Thibs isn’t a championship caliber head coach but we aren’t close to a championship but he’s a great head coach for a young team trying to find its way.

He runs a shallower bench than D'Antoni regardless of where and who he coaches. That speaks to his inability to develop players and build trust.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns are looking for a head coach, preferably with youth. Tom Thibodeau doesn't fit this part of the description.

 

[gimpy]

How is Thibodeau different from the coaches we've had the last 2-3 years?

 

[Mainstreet]

Hmm. I wonder if the Knicks sped up the firing of Tom Thibodeau, to hire Johnnie Bryant from under the Suns nose?

 

[boisesuns]

Hmm. I wonder if the Knicks sped up the firing of Tom Thibodeau, to hire Johnnie Bryant from under the Suns nose?

Probably

 

[boisesuns]

How is Thibodeau different from the coaches we've had the last 2-3 years?

I think he’d get at least two years to coach haha