FU, you piece of Ish.
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There are different levels of competitive. I don't believe anyone thinks we'll compete for a title but for a playoff berth is quite different. Adding some frontcourt help in a real C or PF who can rebound would go a long way towards that. The cost matters but if we could somehow turn KD into KAT and a younger player like Achiuwa and a pick then I view that as a step forward.
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I wonder if the Knicks will hire Johnnie Bryant from underneath the Suns nose.
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Maybe we should learn the Michigan State fight song?
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Mediocriteeee...
For the White and Greeeeen...
For the White and Greeeeen...
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I hope Devin Booker is not going to be the fall guy for this hire.
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They just ished the bed. At least they didn't resign James Jones but what if he had Michigan State ties? Is that all that matters? "Yes, sir!"
I must say I am disappointed in the new hires, and that they didn't make a clean cut with James Jones. Having his advice is _not_ something a new and inexperienced coach and owner needs. That will keep us small and slow with a revolving cast of players. When was the last time they signed a player and kept him for more than two years?
Enough complaints. Now the next task is putting together yet another roster. Just have to hope for some positive moves, like not giving up assets. For instance Beal. Might as well keep him as a scorer because nobody wants his contract. KD and Book should be on the table though. Royce and Allen should be dealt.
I must say I am disappointed in the new hires, and that they didn't make a clean cut with James Jones. Having his advice is _not_ something a new and inexperienced coach and owner needs. That will keep us small and slow with a revolving cast of players. When was the last time they signed a player and kept him for more than two years?
Enough complaints. Now the next task is putting together yet another roster. Just have to hope for some positive moves, like not giving up assets. For instance Beal. Might as well keep him as a scorer because nobody wants his contract. KD and Book should be on the table though. Royce and Allen should be dealt.
That's the most promising news so far. Booker won't be the fall guy if it doesn't work since Booker will likely be gone if it doesn't work.
Ott was qualified but was in a no win situation. He would have been better off landing in New York. The microscope will be on everything he does due to the Michigan State ties, which he went to for his masters only. He initially went to Penn St. So his allegiance to Michigan State may not be the same as Ishbia's. He's worked under Budenholzer, Nash, Kenny Atkinson, and Jacque Vaughn and has over a decade in the league in various spots.
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Curious why you think the microscope won't be on everything if he had gone to New York. Out of all the jobs in the NBA, heck, maybe even sports in general, the microscope is the most apparent for whoever is the Knick head coach. That org just fired the guy who in 4 years got his team to the ECF.
Do you believe Ott will be judged as fairly here as Bryant would have been?
New York is always a tough place to coach but whoever they hire to take over has a roster ready to compete and will only be compared to Thibs. The question of whether they were qualified for the job won't apply the same as here where it looks like nepotism got him the role over his fellow assistant, Johnny Bryant. Ott is in a vary precarious spot here. Even if he wins here there will always be the Michigan State cloud over his head.
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I think you're 100% incorrect. Comparing the stress of the Phoenix job to that of the NY job is an exercise in futility. Ott is in a precarious spot here, but he'd be in an even worse spot if he was in NY.
I think we're looking at it from different perspectives. If he wins elsewhere in his first coaching stint then there is no question of how he got the job. New York happens to be a team who was reportedly interested and has a vacancy at this moment. He ended up being hired here where no matter what, win or lose, the question of whether he wss the most qualified candidate and should he have been hired will always linger. That's tough for any young head coach to overcome.
New York is a difficult place to coach and has a unique set of obstacles for anyone to overcome but there wouldn't be the nepotism angle if he were there. That only exists here because of Ishbia. 29 other teams could have offered a clean start. New York happened to be a team with an opening that I mentioned as is one of those 29 other teams.
Ott would face the same hurdles in NY that Johnny Bryant would but it's unique to Phoenix that his alma mater matters. If you don't see that then
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So if he fails, it's because of his alma mater. If he doesn't fail, then it's in spite of it. Gotcha.I think we're looking at it from different perspectives. If he wins elsewhere in his first coaching stint then there is no question of how he got the job. New York happens to be a team who was reportedly interested and has a vacancy at this moment. He ended up being hired here where no matter what, win or lose, the question of whether he wss the most qualified candidate and should he have been hired will always linger. That's tough for any young head coach to overcome.
New York is a difficult place to coach and has a unique set of obstacles for anyone to overcome but there wouldn't be the nepotism angle if he were there. That only exists here because of Ishbia. 29 other teams could have offered a clean start. New York happened to be a team with an opening that I mentioned as is one of those 29 other teams.
Ott would face the same hurdles in NY that Johnny Bryant would but it's unique to Phoenix that his alma mater matters. If you don't see that then
If Ott can field a winner, it won't matter to me one bit how he got the job. I'm not sure why it should matter to you or anyone else.
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It is clear you want to believe in fairy tales.
This team is going to suck for years, it just is.
Thanks for this. That makes it easier to stomach with regards to the perceived nepotism.
I think we should go the middle route. We don't control our draft picks. If we can trade KD AND Booker for high draft picks and good young players, then by all means, rebuild.
If not, just get the best you can for them without giving away Dunn and the few picks we have. Keep Beal (not giving up assets) and just try to change the culture (less chillin') and develop some players. Stone by stone. Keep the number of veterans/mercenaries to a minimum and only have high character guys with leadership qualities.
If not, just get the best you can for them without giving away Dunn and the few picks we have. Keep Beal (not giving up assets) and just try to change the culture (less chillin') and develop some players. Stone by stone. Keep the number of veterans/mercenaries to a minimum and only have high character guys with leadership qualities.
when ish (it will be ish) trades dunn im done
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He coached/video coordinator at Michigan state for 5 years. I’m pretty sure he’s got a legit MSU foundation.
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An internal memo from Ishbia dropped saying he's going to do things differently than other NBA owners. 100 percent he's being true to his word!
Of course why would you want Booker to be held accountable for anything
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If Ott’s able to win here, against all odds, I don’t think the MSU thing will matter much at all because very few coaches from anywhere could probably win with the talent deficit he’ll have to deal with moving forward.
I mean… if he’s able to win with no draft picks, very little talent as is and the most meddlesome owner in the league, he’ll be regarded as a miracle worker, IMO.
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Maybe it all works out, but I think a lot of fans are feeling underwhelmed with the Suns new hire of GM and coach.
The GM position concerns me the most, as the Suns appear ready to retool the team this summer. They really can't afford to make mistakes in trades, free agency and the draft.
Possibly Matt Tellem takes on a larger behind the scene role, but then wonders why he wasn't hired as the Suns GM. Maybe he transitions into the position later.
The GM position concerns me the most, as the Suns appear ready to retool the team this summer. They really can't afford to make mistakes in trades, free agency and the draft.
Possibly Matt Tellem takes on a larger behind the scene role, but then wonders why he wasn't hired as the Suns GM. Maybe he transitions into the position later.
No one thinks MSU and basketball at the same time.
