If the Suns have the #2 pick, who should they pick?

[JCSunsfan]

Watching this tournament progress, I might consider taking Bagley #1. Ayton has all the measurables. But Bagley just seems to produce ALL the time. I would play him at pf or center without reservation.

 

[BC867]

I kind of thought that we'd already replaced Len with Williams and it's a starting center we're most in need of? And then a starting power forward followed by a starting point guard. Top it off with a starting small forward that can make 3's at a fair clip (hopefully that will eventually be Josh). Oh and a head coach that understands defense and knows how to teach it. Also, one that is smart enough to not play Booker at the 1 very much and not play him at all if he's much less than 100%. Then, we just need 4 or 5 NBA level players to guard our bench for us.

I haven't read anything about Williams being our starting Center. Because of his height, he might be an outstanding backup C vs. a starter. I guess time will tell.

 

[SirStefan32]

I haven't read anything about Williams being our starting Center. Because of his height, he might be an outstanding backup C vs. a starter. I guess time will tell.

Len is not, and has never been a starting Center. He is gone after this year. His tenure with the Suns was over once he couldn't beat Williams for the starting spot once Chandler was shut down last year.

 

[BC867]

Len is not, and has never been a starting Center. He is gone after this year. His tenure with the Suns was over once he couldn't beat Williams for the starting spot once Chandler was shut down last year.

Absolutely. Which is why I feel that drafting a starting Center should be our top priority vs. using that pick on a Point Guard.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Watching this tournament progress, I might consider taking Bagley #1. Ayton has all the measurables. But Bagley just seems to produce ALL the time. I would play him at pf or center without reservation.

One thing to caution here is that Bagley is getting coaching from quite possibly the best college coach ever, whereas Ayton is getting nothing from the an incredibly over-rated an underachieving coach who has no idea what to do with him.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Not sure that would get I.T done... too far away (with knowing Riles always has that team at least mediocre) me thinks for a team drafting in top ten.

3 likely mid-first round picks? I don’t think anyone would trade 15, 16 and a likely top 10 players pick for young.

 

[Cheesebeef]

3 likely mid-first round picks? I don’t think anyone would trade 15, 16 and a likely top 10 players pick for young.

That’s why I don’t think Miami’s 2021 Pick moves the needle. I.T would have to be ours next year, with like top 3 protection

 

[AzStevenCal]

I haven't read anything about Williams being our starting Center. Because of his height, he might be an outstanding backup C vs. a starter. I guess time will tell.

That was my point. We need a starting center, not a Len replacement. Williams has already claimed the backup role IMO.

 

[Phrazbit]

If we got Ayton number 1 then I'd give up quite a bit to jump back into the top 8 and grab Young. I still feel that he is a future star, you cannot teach the kind of court vision and craftiness he displayed often this season.

I'd totally give up a top 3-5 protected pick next year and the Miami and Milwaukee picks if it ensured us a core of Ayton, Young, Jackson and Booker.

 

[JCSunsfan]

If we got Ayton number 1 then I'd give up quite a bit to jump back into the top 8 and grab Young. I still feel that he is a future star, you cannot teach the kind of court vision and craftiness he displayed often this season.

I'd totally give up a top 3-5 protected pick next year and the Miami and Milwaukee picks if it ensured us a core of Ayton, Young, Jackson and Booker.

Again. I would also be excited about Bagley, Young, Jackson, and Booker. Even Carter, Young, Jackson and Booker would be good.

Cheese, point well taken about Bagley having a better coach than Ayton. I still like Bagley a lot. Grant Hill average 17 and 7 as a senior at Duke. Christian Laettner, who according to some is the best COLLEGE basketball player in Duke history averaged 21 and 8. Bagley is breathing some rare air as a college freshman.

 

[Mainstreet]

That was my point. We need a starting center, not a Len replacement. Williams has already claimed the backup role IMO.

We agree.

The Suns talk about needing a center as perhaps their highest priority and Williams is already on the roster. So I think they are talking about needing a starting center.

As it stands now, Williams and Chandler should be backup centers unless they want a gradual transition if they draft a center.

 

[Cheesebeef]

If we got Ayton number 1 then I'd give up quite a bit to jump back into the top 8 and grab Young. I still feel that he is a future star, you cannot teach the kind of court vision and craftiness he displayed often this season.

I'd totally give up a top 3-5 protected pick next year and the Miami and Milwaukee picks if it ensured us a core of Ayton, Young, Jackson and Booker.

I would too.

 

[Mainstreet]

I wouldn’t want to trade the suns pick next year but maybe throw in Miami 2021 to the 15/16 picks.

That's a lot though. If the Suns trade the unprotected Miami pick, it's going to be good... it's the Suns way.

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

Ayton and Knox II

 

[JCSunsfan]

I think we should take a center first too. The question is if we end up picking 3 or 4. If we are at 4 and Ayton, Bagley and Doncic are gone ?

What then?

 

[SirStefan32]

I think we should take a center first too. The question is if we end up picking 3 or 4. If we are at 4 and Ayton, Bagley and Doncic are gone ?

What then?

Easy! You take JJJ. That gives you two big guys who can defend, shoot, and switch out on smaller guys on the perimeter. Then you hope like hell they both (JJJ and Bender) figure out how to be aggressive.

Alternatively, you say "screw defense" and take Young.

 

[Mainstreet]

Easy! You take JJJ. That gives you two big guys who can defend, shoot, and switch out on smaller guys on the perimeter. Then you hope like hell they both (JJJ and Bender) figure out how to be aggressive.

Alternatively, you say "screw defense" and take Young.

I'm beginning to think that team defense is more of a coached thing. The Suns need players that can do both but minimally shoot.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Easy! You take JJJ. That gives you two big guys who can defend, shoot, and switch out on smaller guys on the perimeter. Then you hope like hell they both (JJJ and Bender) figure out how to be aggressive.

Alternatively, you say "screw defense" and take Young.

I am not sold on JJJ. I've watched several of his games and I am not impressed. Using your logic, I would probably take Bamba instead.

I get not taking Young at 4. The defense is a real thing. But his offense is a real thing too. Ugh. I don't know.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I am not sold on JJJ. I've watched several of his games and I am not impressed. Using your logic, I would probably take Bamba instead.

I get not taking Young at 4. The defense is a real thing. But his offense is a real thing too. Ugh. I don't know.

Neither am I. I'm down for Ayton, Bagley or Young. If we miss on all 3, I'm down for some anti-depressants unless Doncic tears it up in private workouts.

 

[Mainstreet]

Neither am I. I'm down for Ayton, Bagley or Young. If we miss on all 3, I'm down for some anti-depressants unless Doncic tears it up in private workouts.

Here is to hoping the Suns get one of the top three picks.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Here is to hoping the Suns get one of the top three picks.

Here is to hoping the Suns get two of the top three picks. Get me Ayton/Bagley AND Young and maybe I won't have to increase my THC intake.

 

[Mainstreet]

Here is to hoping the Suns get two of the top three picks. Get me Ayton/Bagley AND Young and maybe I won't have to increase my THC intake.

If the Suns could have two of the three, I would take Ayton and Bagley.

Does this make me a bad person.

 

[AzStevenCal]

If the Suns could have two of the three, I would take Ayton and Bagley.

Does this make me a bad person.

Hmm. Counter offer. Take Ayton and Bagley, trade Ayton for Young and Carter.

 

[Mainstreet]

Hmm. Counter offer. Take Ayton and Bagley, trade Ayton for Young and Carter.

I think I will hold on Ayton and Bagley.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I think I will hold on Ayton and Bagley.

Really? You'd take Ayton and Bagley over Bagley, Carter and Young? I was thinking that trio would set us up nicely for the future. I'm not too sure how Ayton and Bagley would mix? Unfortunately, we likely have zero chance to get more than 1 of that group so it's all moot.