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every time this new album has a song come onto my pandora I have to skip it because they are 14 minute songs with 4 minutes in the front of noises or silence and same in the back. Making an album difficult to listen to songs on purpose seems rather counter productive. I will never know all the songs from the album as I rarely sit down and consume an album as art without distraction these days.
 

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Part of Tool's appeal to me is their departure from the mainstream. But, I'm the weirdo that still buys CD's and physical media in general. Maynard probably even wants to you to 'work for it.'
 

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Part of Tool's appeal to me is their departure from the mainstream. But, I'm the weirdo that still buys CD's and physical media in general. Maynard probably even wants to you to 'work for it.'

Until about a year ago I was still a regular at Zia records. I finally broke down and got spotify and I will never go back.

I agree on their primal, different approach to things but then when they have us all in assigned seats on the floor so we cannot "rock out" at a metal show, it all seemed like a facade to me. That is purely a cash grab and against what the music stands for.

I really like some of the new album songs but when it jumps into my playlist and there is silence for 4 minutes it is really annoying.

Maybe next time I go on a trip I'll just play the cd as a whole and swim within the music.
 

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Until about a year ago I was still a regular at Zia records. I finally broke down and got spotify and I will never go back.

I agree on their primal, different approach to things but then when they have us all in assigned seats on the floor so we cannot "rock out" at a metal show, it all seemed like a facade to me. That is purely a cash grab and against what the music stands for.

I really like some of the new album songs but when it jumps into my playlist and there is silence for 4 minutes it is really annoying.

Maybe next time I go on a trip I'll just play the cd as a whole and swim within the music.

I have no insight behind the scenes, but this very well could have been a directive by the venue not to allow a general admission on the floor type of show for insurance and liability reasons. Tool could have chosen to route their tour into smaller venues that did allow for that, but would they have been able to accommodate the pent up demand for tickets?

You have every right to make your assumption too, I just don't know exactly what the reasons were.
 

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I have no insight behind the scenes, but this very well could have been a directive by the venue not to allow a general admission on the floor type of show for insurance and liability reasons. Tool could have chosen to route their tour into smaller venues that did allow for that, but would they have been able to accommodate the pent up demand for tickets?

You have every right to make your assumption too, I just don't know exactly what the reasons were.


I've been to a million shows at that place and never seen seats on the floor until tool :shrug:

RATM was coming there, floor was standing room only with no seats. Because metal :)
 

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not to mention watching people literally be removed from the crowd and escorted out for taking a picture. I hate phones at concerts but that is pretty extreme. One of them got removed and literally the next song maynard says ok, you all can pull out your phones now.
 

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I've been to a million shows at that place and never seen seats on the floor until tool :shrug:

RATM was coming there, floor was standing room only with no seats. Because metal :)

I have no idea. You very well may be right. I still enjoyed the show, but I'm too old to be thrashing around a pit. Doesn't change my enjoyment of the music either. Like I said, I'm quite different than most when it comes to consuming music.
 

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I have no idea. You very well may be right. I still enjoyed the show, but I'm too old to be thrashing around a pit. Doesn't change my enjoyment of the music either. Like I said, I'm quite different than most when it comes to consuming music.
I enjoyed the show, they did an amazing job. I do still mosh but even without that, I just felt crammed up into a sardine can. even if the crowd started the jump bobbing thing people do, youd have twisted ankles everywhere from landing on the seat legs like a spurs player was waiting for you to take a jump shot.

I was just real uncomfortable with having to stand because I'm on the floor and everyone in front of me is standing but then, having to stand very still at the same time. it was weird. I ended up going to the end of the aisle and standing over there and having security keep telling me to go to my seat but ignoring them. I'll compare it to seeing tool perform live on an airplane lol
 

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