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  1. Ronin

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    Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn)
    8/3/19, 9:16 AM
    Green’s extension pays him $22.2M, $24M, $25.8M and $27.6M over the course of the deal. The Warriors will have $129M and $138M committed to their four max players — Curry, Thompson, Green and Russell — in the 2020-21 and 2021-22 seasons, respectively.
     
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    He would have gotten more than that on the open market. That is about what Dr. J wanted to pay Oubre.
     
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    Did you watch him in the postseason?

    13.3 PPG 10.1 RPG 8.5 APG too many TO's 3.8 but he did that shooting 50% overal 72 from the FT line. Only 23 from 3 a terrible 3 point shooting postseason but if the Warriors had managed to win the finals it's entirely possible Green would have won MVP of the finals.

    He's a bit of a risk because he's 29 so 33 at the end of the contract but he was in the best shape of his career in the postseason this year and it showed. Unless he puts back on some of the weight he lost I think it's reasonable to assume he'll still be a terrific piece for the Warriors for a few years to go. Yes he'll have more pressure on him without Durant but again he put up double digit assists in 3 of the 6 games against Toronto essentially without Durant.

    I'm thrilled they kept him, heart and soul of the team.

    To me the big question is what will they do long term with Russell, if they flip him for another piece like a good wing defender who makes 3's like Covington or involve him in a 3 team trade for my personal choice Joe Harris they could be on to something. I figure Russell and Curry split the 1/2 for a few months until Klay can play and then they decide is this a guy we can play with Steph and Klay going forward(I doubt it) or a guy we move.Trade deadline is early Feb I think, it's not clear if they're going to be in a spot to trade him then or not, Klay has to be back and looking relatively ok for them to do that.

    But a huge part of that is Draymond they're just not nearly as good defensively without him.

    One thing I do like about the offseason is they seemed to recognize they'd lost quite a bit defensively with Durant, Iggy and Livingston so they brought back Looney, signed Cauley-Stein and now commit to Draymond long term.

    I don't see it next year but if they make the right moves and Klay comes back ok I can see them in 20-21 being a real factor.
     
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    Indeed, I watched the Raptors-Warriors Finals. Leonard played exceptional basketball as well as the rest of the Raptors team.

    I'm looking at it as an outsider. I see a decline of Drayomond Green's regular season stats from the 2015-16 season. That combined with his age would make me reticent to want to pay him that kind of money.

    Of course with the loss of Durant, it becomes even more important to keep Green. The Warriors want to keep their window of opportunity open.
     
  5. SirStefan32

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    Green is the heart and soul of that team. Sure, Curry and Thompson are better players. Durant was a better player as well, but Green is the most important player on that team.
     
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    Lol no he is not the most important player on the team. He’s a nice role player. Durant and Steph are generational talents. That’s like saying Rodman was more important than Pippen and Jordan.
     
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    Curry is their most important player but Green is far more important to them than Durant. Durant is a generational player but he was superfluous on that team, while Green was their best defender, rebounder and (arguably) passer.
     
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    How many Warriors games have you seen over the last couple of years? Green is the heart of that team, he's also their primary playmaker on offense, and their best defender. Doing all of that allowed Steph, Klay, and KD to concentrate on scoring. KD's gone but that just means they'll need Green to step it up a bit more.

    There was talk of the Warriors having to choose between KD or Draymond this offseason when they were feuding early in the season. That idea isn't even discussed if Draymond was just their Rodman.

    Comparing him to Rodman is ridiculous. Rodman was a great piece for the Bulls but the Bulls proved they could win championships without him, he just made the path easier. Green is much more the Pippen of Warriors than Rodman. He often guards the opposing teams best player, handles the ball a lot, and is relied on to get the offense going when Steph's having trouble getting it going. Green isn't asked to score in place of Steph but he is asked to get buckets somehow, and he usually does that by finding the open man for an easy basket.

    You don't have to like Green, most people don't, but to discount what he does for the Warriors only shows that you haven't watched many Warriors games. I'd say he's overpaid if he got that much from another team but to the Warriors, that's what he's worth, perhaps even more.
     
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    Lol the whole world has watched too many Warrior games the past 5 years....not really a choice
     
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    The Warriors have some nice players but it is Curry's team. They do not win all those championships without him.
     
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    I live in the Bay Area and have for the last 4 years because of work(Sunnyvale 10 minutes from the 49er stadium)

    I’ve seen plenty of Warrior games and trust me when the talk was Durant or Green not one single person here was saying keep Green. I would say Durant and Thompson are both better defenders.

    Not a GM in the NBA would choose Green over Durant.

    I love the “heart and Soul” guys online. I live in the real world and am gonna go ahead and say Kevin Durant is more important on any team ever when it’s between him and Draymond Green.
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    “A nice role player” - cmon. That’s a ridiculous statement. As a role player he’s likely one of the very best to have ever been pegged in that role.
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    You’re living in the past. Durant is gone. It never became a green or Durant choice. This is about green’s current contract and the value to the warriors moving forward.
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    While it is absolutely Curry’s team, I doubt they win those championships without green either.
     
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    It goes without saying. The same with Klay Thompson. However, Curry makes it possible.
     

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