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The problem is they can't seem to be able to get rid of any of those guys. And furthermore, as each day passes, they seem increasingly resigned to bringing all of them back, which means A) they will all likely be in the rotation, and B) no money or roster spots for positions/roles we desperately need to fill.
That says a lot about JJ's player evalutation when he gave that beefy contracts to Allen and RO. We now get stuck with them.
 
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The problem is they can't seem to be able to get rid of any of those guys. And furthermore, as each day passes, they seem increasingly resigned to bringing all of them back, which means A) they will all likely be in the rotation, and B) no money or roster spots for positions/roles we desperately need to fill.

I'm waiting for the first domino to fall, likely Bradley Beal. After that we shall see.

It's still early in free agency, so we need to hang tough.
 
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Anybody thinking there’s a starter available at 41 is likely delusional as an nba gm. Are there diamonds in the rough discovered every now and again? Of course. But thinking there’s a starter there? I know I certainly hope that was NOT the case with our front office.

I was looking at the Suns drafting potential starters down the road.

Yes, I think Adou Fiero and Kam Jones have that potential if they were there at #41.
 

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I don't think we will be that bad, mainly because of Booker. But we could be especially if he is out many games with injury.
we were something like 2-18 last year with Booker, sometimes Beal, but no KD. 2nd or 3rd worst in the league maybe not, but I can def see a bottom 5 finish overall.
 
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It's hard to know how good or bad the Suns will be this coming season, but I expect their defense to be much better.

Because the Suns couldn't plug the middle of their defense, they alternated between giving up layups and wide open threes.

At times, it was a freeway to the basket. It became disheartening to watch them. Opponents knew exactly how to win.

Now at least now the Suns have added some big men to their roster who should help fix their interior defense.

Watching isolation basketball and turnovers on offense was almost as bad.

It's hard to see how they are worse than last season, but who knows. It got to the point I didn't want to see Durant and Beal play anymore.
 

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Oso played 4 years at Marquette. He isn't changing his jumper at 22 years old. He's played too long at this point to have hope he develops better mechanics.

Guys have developed a shot over the course of their career... however... that is one ugly shooting form. It's is about as bad as I've ever seen.
 
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Oso put up a couple of normal looking shots, including a three, when Desert Vista beat Mountain Pointe in Arizona 6A Championship.

See the 1:45 mark on the video.

It's perplexing why coaches allowed him to change his shooting motion in college.

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Brian Gregory talks about offseason moves today.

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It's hard to know how good or bad the Suns will be this coming season, but I expect their defense to be much better.

Because the Suns couldn't plug the middle of their defense, they alternated between giving up layups and wide open threes.

At times, it was a freeway to the basket. It became disheartening to watch them. Opponents knew exactly how to win.

Now at least now the Suns have added some big men to their roster who should help fix their interior defense.

Watching isolation basketball and turnovers on offense was almost as bad.

It's hard to see how they are worse than last season, but who knows. It got to the point I didn't want to see Durant and Beal play anymore.
I get and agree with not wanting to see another game from KD or Beal in a Suns uniform but it’s incredibly easy to see how we’re not only going to be worse but possibly much worse than last year. We have two scoring threats on the entire team and neither of them are elite. Point Book has only been bad to awful for any offense we’ve seen him run in the past. Our size is both incredibly injury prone and/or very very raw rookies.

I think some of you guys are in for a rude awakening at what rebuilding looks like, especially around a some time All Star as your best player. There’s a lot of younger, live bodies on the team and that excites me about the future, but there will be massive growing pains with those guys before we see a lot of payoff.
 

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I'm waiting for the first domino to fall, likely Bradley Beal. After that we shall see.

It's still early in free agency, so we need to hang tough.
I agree. Once the Beal situation is resolved it should open a lot of doors just being under the apron. I also don’t see any reason to trade some of these guys unless we get what we want out of it. Teams will be a little more desperate at the deadline and guys like RO and Allen will hopefully have more value then.
 
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Here are some key points made by Brian Gregory at the press conference today.

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I get and agree with not wanting to see another game from KD or Beal in a Suns uniform but it’s incredibly easy to see how we’re not only going to be worse but possibly much worse than last year. We have two scoring threats on the entire team and neither of them are elite. Point Book has only been bad to awful for any offense we’ve seen him run in the past. Our size is both incredibly injury prone and/or very very raw rookies.

I think some of you guys are in for a rude awakening at what rebuilding looks like, especially around a some time All Star as your best player. There’s a lot of younger, live bodies on the team and that excites me about the future, but there will be massive growing pains with those guys before we see a lot of payoff.

Rude awakening? LOL

Literally no one thinks we aren't rebuilding. The vast majority are hoping for a more enjoyable product over improved record. Record is secondary this season. We need to establish a new culture after KD's "just hooping" nonsense led us to salary cap hell and an empty warchest.
 
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Brian Gregory is really high on Nigel Hayes Davis, although he can't talk about him, I guess because he is not signed yet.

However, his exuberance showed through anyway when asked about him.
 

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I think it’s ok to acknowledge a rebuild and in the same breath believe we can win more than 36 games this year.

The expectations most have are vastly different than last year. This year winning more than 36 games and making the play in would be a positive. Last year winning 36 games when we were supposed to be competing for a championship wasn't even a bad joke, it was disgusting and I believe it made many fans question their allegiance to the Suns.
 

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I'm waiting for the first domino to fall, likely Bradley Beal. After that we shall see.

It's still early in free agency, so we need to hang tough.
The issue being that there won't be any free agents left unless the Suns can move the dead weight and clear cap space very soon. It's not impossible (yet) they could still sign some guys who will help, but that chance gets dimmer with each passing day.
 

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I just hope watching them doesn’t make me wanna jump off a bridge. These last couple years have been a very joyless and boring brand of basketball.
 

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The issue being that there won't be any free agents left unless the Suns can move the dead weight and clear cap space very soon. It's not impossible (yet) they could still sign some guys who will help, but that chance gets dimmer with each passing day.

Don't forget that MLE can now be used in trades as exceptions of sorts. So while we may not be able to sign anyone outright, we might be able to pick someone up in same way. Of course we have no picks to sweeten the pot but Ishbia could sweeten deals with cash.
 
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The issue being that there won't be any free agents left unless the Suns can move the dead weight and clear cap space very soon. It's not impossible (yet) they could still sign some guys who will help, but that chance gets dimmer with each passing day.

It's not like the Suns need a full roster of players and there is always the trade deadline.

If the Suns could sign Precious Achiuwa, I'd be very pleased.

Here is a list of some remaining free agents.

 

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I just hope watching them doesn’t make me wanna jump off a bridge. These last couple years have been a very joyless and boring brand of basketball.
By far the least amount I have watched.
 

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