Suns Off Season Changes for 2025-26

[JCSunsfan]

No one on the best FA list is better than Book at this moment as far as PG duties are concerned.

OK. Again. He doesn't need to be better than Book, just better than what we lose when we move Book from SG to PG.

 

[Proximo]

If Jalen Green is playing next to Booker, then Devin is likely the starting point guard. The Suns already have another point guard in Gillespie.

The question might be, how do the Suns view the point guard position?

Do they want a starter, a backup, or a third point guard with Booker there.

A third point guard, and I think that is pretty clear.

They want to develop younger players - Gillespie is the #2. Unless they can get a better younger guy - which I don't see available, they are looking for a #3

 

[Mainstreet]

A third point guard, and I think that is pretty clear.

They want to develop younger players - Gillespie is the #2. Unless they can get a better younger guy - which I don't see available, they are looking for a #3

Jared Butler, 24, might be worth considering.

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[Proximo]

Devin Booker is a bad PG. I also don’t think there is one we can get to right this mess, especially with our lack of assets which is why we need to trade Book.

But the idea that the PG is completely unnecessary in today’s NBA as a blanket statement doesn’t hold a lot of water to me.

I do not agree with that at all. He is better than at least half of the starters in the league. He averages over 7 assists a game and is fine handling the ball.

We need to clarify what a PG is in todays NBA. My definition is it's just a guard that handles the ball well. Passing well into the post or driving and dishing well is just no longer required. 90% of 2 guards can penetrate and kick - and that is all that is required. So 2 2 guards that can handle the ball well and penetrate a bit are all you need.

 

[Mainstreet]

Gambo on the Suns interest in Ben Simmons.

I wonder where these rumors even start.

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[95pro]

Gambo on the Suns interest in Ben Simmons.

I wonder where these rumors even start.

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Gambo hasn't really been accurate, he's the Windy version of sports radio

 

[Mainstreet]

Gambo hasn't really been accurate, he's the Windy version of sports radio

I've found he has been correct when saying what is not going to happen.

For example, he said Bradley Beal was not returning to the Suns this season and he didn't.

 

[Adrian]

Could a reunion with the Valley make sense for Jevon Carter?

Why Jevon Carter fits the new identity of the Phoenix Suns.

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[Adrian]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25228051-jonathan-kuminga-trade-suns-reportedly-unlikely-amid-warriors-contract-rumors

 

[Mainstreet]

Gambo is also giving no votes of sorts to Cam Payne and Malcolm Brogdon joining the Suns.

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[Hoop Head]

Gambo hasn't really been accurate, he's the Windy version of sports radio

I think Gambo's previous source was someone in JJ's inner circle. Ever since Gregory has been hired, he's been a bit looser with his takes and now that JJ is gone it seems he's making educated guesses.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

brooks and dunn sounds fun but we only need one - we didn't go out and get actual power forwards to develop only to keep playing undersized power forwards

we can't start both brooks and dunn at small forward but both are starters - there is no choice between the two we are all in on dunn - dunn is the future - brooks probably wants to leave

 

[Covert Rain]

I've found he has been correct when saying what is not going to happen.

For example, he said Bradley Beal was not returning to the Suns this season and he didn't.

Gambo still has a source on the team. He has killed so many rumors these past several years and called out all these insiders. He is pretty accurate. He may not have had the exact time frame Beal would be gone but he steadfastly called it that he wouldn't be returning.

 

[Mainstreet]

Some insight into the Suns war room. More tomorrow.

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[Mainstreet]

Gambo still has a source on the team. He has killed so many rumors these past several years and called out all these insiders. He is pretty accurate. He may not have had the exact time frame Beal would be gone but he steadfastly called it that he wouldn't be returning.

Agree. I think Gambo has a source. He can't control time frames. I didn't expect that.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

something gonna happen today?

 

[95pro]

I do not agree with that at all. He is better than at least half of the starters in the league. He averages over 7 assists a game and is fine handling the ball.

We need to clarify what a PG is in todays NBA. My definition is it's just a guard that handles the ball well. Passing well into the post or driving and dishing well is just no longer required. 90% of 2 guards can penetrate and kick - and that is all that is required. So 2 2 guards that can handle the ball well and penetrate a bit are all you need.

This is why I say we aren't going to add a pg unless there is someone out there that we are able to afford and is available that is better than Book.

The only person that could fit this bill is Simmons, but what does mean for guys like Dunn and Brooks who are both starting caliber small forwards. Putting Dunn to the bench hampers his development and Brooks to the bench only makes him want to leave. And I do not think we can get something of equal or greater value for Brooks, if we take less than we lose the KD trade even more.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

anybody ask gambo about giddey?

 

[Hoop Head]

This is why I say we aren't going to add a pg unless there is someone out there that we are able to afford and is available that is better than Book.

The only person that could fit this bill is Simmons, but what does mean for guys like Dunn and Brooks who are both starting caliber small forwards. Putting Dunn to the bench hampers his development and Brooks to the bench only makes him want to leave. And I do not think we can get something of equal or greater value for Brooks, if we take less than we lose the KD trade even more.

Dunn needs minutes but should not be gifted a starting role to start the year. I'm fine with him receiving the role post trade deadline but we don't need to wave the white flag on the season until around then. Competing with Brooks for starting gig should bring out a more aggressive version of Dunn. The main knock on him, IMO, is how he seemed lackadaisical or tentative on offense most of the year, save a handful of games. He always brought it on defense so I don't see it as a motor problem so much as an aggression or competitive problem, which could be fixed through coaching and a cultural shift here.

Time will tell, of course, but I see more early Kawhi in Dunn where he's picking his spots. If he can become more of a Scottie Pippen and play with a little more swagger and confidence then he can take the next step. He's definitely got the tools in his arsenal to be a top 3-4 guy on a team but he needs to apply himself more.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

If he can bring that kind of defense, and if he will attack the basket on offense, he could fit well. The only thing is I know they want Green to start, and while Simmons is a big guard, we would have to have him play small forwards on D with Book and Green out there. If he can do that, it might work. Also, you would be taking one of Brooks and Dunn off the court. Gotta feel Simmons brings enough to takje one of those guys off the court.

I’d start him at PF. Let he and Dunn/Brooks all share defensive duties on either forward.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yeah, exactly so why would we want him?

I see no upside with Simmons, he is mentally broken.

He’s still infinitely more talented than oso.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Gambo on the Suns interest in Ben Simmons.

I wonder where these rumors even start.

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Ha! I started it here maybe! Oh well.

 

[JCSunsfan]

He’s still infinitely more talented than oso.

Agreed.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I don’t see how bringing in Simmons would be a lot like when we brought in CP3 in almost any way, shape or form. CP3 brought a career full of floor raising and had literally just come off a season where he did the same with OKC. The only question CP3 brought when we traded for him was how long he could still be a very good PG.

Ben Simmons brings almost nothing but questions… most of which have terrible answers in the last four years, where his game has not only fallen off a cliff, if he even makes it to the court because of a myriad of injuries/mental health questions, while being a problem child off it. He’s the anti-CP3.

Except not at a big number and he can partially solve two issues: big defender and distributor. I don’t think he’s any kind of long term solution. I see him as a cost effective roll of the dice. As you’ve noted, our record doesn’t matter, so who cares if he flames out on a relatively small contract? We know he has skills we need. Whether we get them outta him or not is open to question. But who is the alternative that can bring his two skills? If no one, why not grab him for cheap?

 

[Cheesebeef]

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Except not at a big number and he can partially solve two issues: big defender and distributor. I don’t think he’s any kind of long term solution. I see him as a cost effective roll of the dice. As you’ve noted, our record doesn’t matter, so who cares if he flames out on a relatively small contract? We know he has skills we need. Whether we get them outta him or not is open to question. But who is the alternative that can bring his two skills? If no one, why not grab him for cheap?

One word… attitude. I don’t want that dude’s attitude anywhere near all the young guys we have.