Suns Off Season Changes for 2025-26

[Hoop Head]

Booker will see the double team but Green should make the other team pay. Did not work with Beal but coaching matters.

Beal also wasn't what he was in Washington. Green doesn't have the same health issues and is much better moving on and off ball than the version of Beal we had.

 

[Proximo]

Kuminga is not attractive to me. It would be like getting Ayton back. A player with all the physical tools in the world but something wrong upstairs so that it goes to waste. If we trade for Kuminga, we will regret it.

For Grayson and O'neal - No I will not regret it. I don't want O'neal to play at all, and I think Brea can take Grayson's spot, so that's like giving up next to nothing for a chance at a really good player.

 

[Mainstreet]

Kuminga is not attractive to me. It would be like getting Ayton back. A player with all the physical tools in the world but something wrong upstairs so that it goes to waste. If we trade for Kuminga, we will regret it.

I would have welcomed Kuminga if the Suns had traded Durant to the Warriors. I'd need to know more about him before paying big dollars.

Suns got picky about not trading for Aaron Gordon when that would have been a good move.

 

[JCSunsfan]

For Grayson and O'neal - No I will not regret it. I don't want O'neal to play at all, and I think Brea can take Grayson's spot, so that's like giving up next to nothing for a chance at a really good player.

He will be a contract that becomes a noose around our necks. Its not the trade value, its the contract that will be necessary. Don't get me wrong, he has all the physical talent in the world, but he does not listen to coaches and he makes foolish mistakes constantly. One of the most important characteristics in a young player is that he is teachable. Word from GS is that Kuminga is the type of young player that when you try to tell him something, he just looks back at you with a blank look on his face. He just doesn't really get the nuances of the game or coaching. This is not usually something that develops over time. If we get him, I will hope like crazy I am wrong.

 

[clyde2tw]

No idea why GS would want RO and RA's contracts at all. If anything, they'd ask for Brooks and Richards for Kuminga.

 

[Folster]

No idea why GS would want RO and RA's contracts at all. If anything, they'd ask for Brooks and Richards for Kuminga.

I think you're right. The Suns need to get better with asset timing. Vets like O'Neale and Allen should have more value at the deadline assuming they are part of the rotation and contributing up until then. At the deadline, contending teams will be looking for a missing piece for a playoff run.

 

[Yuma]

The only thing about Kuminga is he needs to make a small jump in play to be worth his next contract. We are already taking that risk with Green. Do we really want two of these contracts on the team at a time?

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns have reported interest in Ben Simmons.

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[Hoop Head]

The Eskimo Brothers will happen!

 

[Mainstreet]

I think you're right. The Suns need to get better with asset timing. Vets like O'Neale and Allen should have more value at the deadline assuming they are part of the rotation and contributing up until then. At the deadline, contending teams will be looking for a missing piece for a playoff run.

It's amazing how the Suns thinking has changed after dropping below the tax aprons.

Now, extending Allen and O'Neale in 2024 doesn't seem like such a good idea. Hopefully a trade can be found for one or both.

 

[95pro]

Both Kuminga and Giddey are RFA and Giddey is wants a $30m per year deal. Oneale and Allen make 26.8 and Richards gets us over that number. A deal could be done but it would involve 2 agents and 3 teams.

Maybe we don’t have to give up Richards if we backload Kiminga or Giddeys contract?
27M year one
28M year two
29 year three?

 

[JCSunsfan]

The Suns have reported interest in Ben Simmons.

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On paper, this is a very interesting move. The more I hear about his personality and aloofness, I am not so sure. If he signs cheaply, its a low risk/high potential option. This would be the perfect situation for Simmons though. He has Book and Green out there to shoot, a big in Williams down low. I assume Dunn would be the other starter, although more of a 3 and D forward would be better. Its intriguing.

 

[Mainstreet]

On paper, this is a very interesting move. The more I hear about his personality and aloofness, I am not so sure. If he signs cheaply, its a low risk/high potential option.

If the Suns go after Simmons, based upon their criteria of the team being aligned towards toughness and grit, I would hope they have done their homework.

 

[JCSunsfan]

If the Suns go after Simmons, based upon their criteria of the team being aligned towards toughness and grit, I would hope they have done their homework.

He was once a legit DPOY candidate.

 

[leclerc]

Kuminga should get a short and cheapish contract. Otherwise I would just keep Allen and O'Neale.

 

[Yuma]

He was once a legit DPOY candidate.

If he can bring that kind of defense, and if he will attack the basket on offense, he could fit well. The only thing is I know they want Green to start, and while Simmons is a big guard, we would have to have him play small forwards on D with Book and Green out there. If he can do that, it might work. Also, you would be taking one of Brooks and Dunn off the court. Gotta feel Simmons brings enough to takje one of those guys off the court.

 

[leclerc]

I am afraid they will go straight into another mistake, offering big contracts to players that are unwanted elsewhere and have obvious big red flags. Don't need to look long to find resons why Simmons and Kuminga are not extended where they are. The word is out. It will not magically change in Phoenix.

Let's think Lavine and DeRozan. Chicago did not want them. They did not win. Anyone think this will be different in Sacramento? Granted, Kuminga is still young, but mental issues have a tendency to stay with the player.

I hold my breath hoping they decide to skip these guys, and if they do take a chance, offer minimum contracts. As someone said, Allen and O'Neale might be worth more later in the season, and our young guys need time before they can play starter minutes.

 

[Mainstreet]

If he can bring that kind of defense, and if he will attack the basket on offense, he could fit well. The only thing is I know they want Green to start, and while Simmons is a big guard, we would have to have him play small forwards on D with Book and Green out there. If he can do that, it might work. Also, you would be taking one of Brooks and Dunn off the court. Gotta feel Simmons brings enough to takje one of those guys off the court.

The Suns will be rotating players anyway. My concern is will Simmons be content with his role.

 

[JCSunsfan]

The Suns will be rotating players anyway. My concern is will Simmons be content with his role.

Who cares. Sign him fairly cheap on a team friendly contract and see if he works. if not, let him go. We are not contending. We can take risks to add assets.

 

[Mainstreet]

Who cares. Sign him fairly cheap on a team friendly contract and see if he works. if not, let him go. We are not contending. We can take risks to add assets.

Normally, this is what I would think. However, if the Suns are sincere about the chemistry thing, this time they need to get it right.

 

[JCSunsfan]

If he can bring that kind of defense, and if he will attack the basket on offense, he could fit well. The only thing is I know they want Green to start, and while Simmons is a big guard, we would have to have him play small forwards on D with Book and Green out there. If he can do that, it might work. Also, you would be taking one of Brooks and Dunn off the court. Gotta feel Simmons brings enough to takje one of those guys off the court.

He's 6-10 and can guard 5 positions. You can easily play him with whoever you want, including both Green and Book. The only problem is having enough shooters on the floor. If you have Simmons in the line up, Brooks makes more sense playing along side him than Dunn. Brooks brings D plus he is a better outside shooter. I really like Dunn, but that is just how the line up would flow.

Book, Green, and Simmons all can very effectively attack the rim.

Also, if you sign Simmons, it might make sense to keep Grayson. O Neale and Richards need to go though.

 

[Mainstreet]

He's 6-10 and can guard 5 positions. You can easily play him with whoever you want, including both Green and Book. The only problem is having enough shooters on the floor. If you have Simmons in the line up, Brooks makes more sense playing along side him than Dunn. Brooks brings D plus he is a better outside shooter. I really like Dunn, but that is just how the line up would flow.

Book, Green, and Simmons all can very effectively attack the rim.

Simmons would likely play the same role as Oso, not that should stop the Suns from signing him if he fits.

 

[Proximo]

Simmons would likely play the same role as Oso, not that should stop the Suns from signing him if he fits.

Yeah, exactly so why would we want him?

I see no upside with Simmons, he is mentally broken.

 

[Proximo]

He's 6-10 and can guard 5 positions. You can easily play him with whoever you want, including both Green and Book. The only problem is having enough shooters on the floor. If you have Simmons in the line up, Brooks makes more sense playing along side him than Dunn. Brooks brings D plus he is a better outside shooter. I really like Dunn, but that is just how the line up would flow.

Book, Green, and Simmons all can very effectively attack the rim.

Also, if you sign Simmons, it might make sense to keep Grayson. O Neale and Richards need to go though.

This is a guy that could not break into the Nets lineup. He is a waste of roster space. I would far far rather resign Bol Bol over him.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Simmons would likely play the same role as Oso, not that should stop the Suns from signing him if he fits.

Absolutely correct. Simmons is a better version of Oso. If we could sign Simmons, I would try to trade Oso, O Neale, and Richards for picks. Late first, seconds, something. Some sort of future draft compensation.