Suns Off Season Changes for 2025-26

[Yuma]

Here is how important it is for the Suns to get under the tax apron. Bobby Marks explains it.

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I feel Ishbia knew this, because he made a statement about keeping that pick unfrozen.

 

[Yuma]

odds that both beal and kawhi are healthy at the end of the year?

I heard they may pursue CP3. I think their strategy is to get so many guys that get hurt, the odds are some will be healthy some of the time, but not all unhealthy all of the time.

 

[Yuma]

I understand the reasoning, I understand that the annual amount is not going to look as bad in a couple of years, but I really don't like the stretching aspect of this. There has to have been a way to get out of the second apron without turning a two-year problem into a five-year problem.

There was. Keeping him until the salary was paid out.

I think it came down to getting rid of him just to get under the two aprons so we wouldn't have our 2032 pick frozen. Plus there's other benefits of more options in trades, etc.

 

[Yuma]

I think this tweet by Keith Smith deserves a re-post.

It gives fans an idea where the Suns are in relation to the luxury tax and both aprons, providing they waive and stretch Bradley Beal.

They have until August 31st to do so.

He was bought out today.

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We won't stay under the luxury tax from what I have been reading. Ishbia seems unconcerned about that issue. We just have to stay under the aprons.

 

[Yuma]

If this was September, I'd get it. I think they jumped the gun and should have exhausted all avenues elsewhere. Waiting until training camp is a week or two and guys are getting those offers would have been preferred.

Of course that may have caused Beal to play hardball also. Less teams would have significant money to offer so he may have wanted more.

I wanted to see the Suns keep Beal, and essentially send him home for a year. Then it would be a game of will he pick up his option year and have us make him stay home another year, or work out a buy out with the Suns at that point.

 

[Mainstreet]

As of now, the Suns have not waived and stretched Beal's contract.

As previously noted. He was only bought out yesterday.

However, not waiving and stretching Beal means the Suns would have to find another way to get under the tax aprons.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

We won't stay under the luxury tax from what I have been reading. Ishbia seems unconcerned about that issue. We just have to stay under the aprons.

He keeps proving he’ll spend money. That’s a very good thing. Now we just need for him to figure out how to spend it more wisely.

 

[Ronin]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25226978-jonathan-kuminga-trade-contract-reportedly-interests-suns-after-bradley-beal-buyout

 

[BirdGangThing]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25226978-jonathan-kuminga-trade-contract-reportedly-interests-suns-after-bradley-beal-buyout

whoa.... that could be interesting

 

[Mainstreet]

Gambo confirms the Suns have had interest in Kuminga but the chances of it happening are low.

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[Suns_fan69]

I'm not a huge fan of Kuminga, but that mostly depends on what salary he would agree to. I think he's looking for a 30M+ deal and I think that's a tough sell.

 

[Proximo]

whoa.... that could be interesting

I think the odds of us succeeding in getting him are very low.

He would be a nice guy to plug into our starting 4 spot, but I can't imagine they can't get a better trade offer than Grayson and Royce

 

[Proximo]

I'm not a huge fan of Kuminga, but that mostly depends on what salary he would agree to. I think he's looking for a 30M+ deal and I think that's a tough sell.

A tough sale for who? He's probably not worth that much but would you rather have Grayson and Royce's deals or that one with a younger player with upside? I would certainly rather take a chance on Kuminga.

 

[Suns_fan69]

A tough sale for who? He's probably not worth that much but would you rather have Grayson and Royce's deals or that one with a younger player with upside? I would certainly rather take a chance on Kuminga.

For Phoenix. If GSW, with their desperation for youth and athleticism are wary of paying Kuminga that price, I'm not sure why Phoenix should. But, I acknowledge that I don't really know much about him other than what I can see on his stat sheet and the handful (<10 games) I've seen of him. Curious what Russ thinks of him.

 

[Ronin]

As of now, the Suns have not waived and stretched Beal's contract.

As previously noted. He was only bought out yesterday.

However, not waiving and stretching Beal means the Suns would have to find another way to get under the tax aprons.

They have until Aug 31st to waive and stretch? No?

I’m probably wrong

 

[Mainstreet]

They have until Aug 31st to waive and stretch? No?

I’m probably wrong

Yes, the Suns have until August 30th, to stretch Beal's contract. This is a day different from the previous date I mentioned.

Since he was bought out, I think he is in the process of clearing waivers now?

The NBA CBA has so many technicalities, the terminology can get confusing when talking about it.

 

[Proximo]

For Phoenix. If GSW, with their desperation for youth and athleticism are wary of paying Kuminga that price, I'm not sure why Phoenix should. But, I acknowledge that I don't really know much about him other than what I can see on his stat sheet and the handful (<10 games) I've seen of him. Curious what Russ thinks of him.

No, it is a tough sale for GS because I would be shocked if they couldn’t get a better offer. If we have any chance we need kuminga to want to come here and make that known.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Even if he is untradable, stretching is stupid.

It saves nearly $100 million this year and the same next year in salary and tax. It's only stupid if it's not your money. There are also the repeater penalties that freeze picks and limit trades. Getting out from under those is necessary to rebuild. It probalbly even helps if we decide to trade Booker.

Oops Mainstreet. Looks like I said exactly the same thing you said. Stretching adds flexibility for rebuilding more than limit it.

 

[Proximo]

It saves nearly $100 million this year and the same next year in salary and tax. It's only stupid if it's not your money. There are also the repeater penalties that freeze picks and limit trades. Getting out from under those is necessary to rebuild. It probalbly even helps if we decide to trade Booker.

Oops Mainstreet. Looks like I said exactly the same thing you said. Stretching adds flexibility for rebuilding more than limit it.

I know the argument.

They don't need flexibility for the next 2 years - the team is going to suck. Yes there is the tax money - but if Ishbia truly cared about winning as much as he says, paying through the nose for 2 years to keep the cap clean wouldn't be a problem.

 

[Mainstreet]

I know the argument.

They don't need flexibility for the next 2 years - the team is going to suck. Yes there is the tax money - but if Ishbia truly cared about winning as much as he says, paying through the nose for 2 years to keep the cap clean wouldn't be a problem.

How do you feel about Damian Lillard being bought out?

 

[JCSunsfan]

I know the argument.

They don't need flexibility for the next 2 years - the team is going to suck. Yes there is the tax money - but if Ishbia truly cared about winning as much as he says, paying through the nose for 2 years to keep the cap clean wouldn't be a problem.

If he truly cared, he would flush $200 million to keep cap space clean because you think that's better?

I am just not sure how to respond to that. I guess it speaks for itself.

 

[Proximo]

How do you feel about Damian Lillard being bought out?

That was also stupid, but a little more justifiable since he is likely out of commission most of this season, and Milwaukee is desperate to keep Giannis happy.

 

[Proximo]

If he truly cared, he would flush $200 million to keep cap space clean because you think that's better?

I am just not sure how to respond to that. I guess it speaks for itself.

Did he not just flush that much the last 2 years? How well was that money spent?

Not to mention if getting under the apron was truly the priority Grayson's contract could have been dumped to the nets with some of the draft capital we used to move up in the second round

As much as I like Fleming, I would rather not have the dead cap.

 

[Suns_fan69]

I know the argument.

They don't need flexibility for the next 2 years - the team is going to suck. Yes there is the tax money - but if Ishbia truly cared about winning as much as he says, paying through the nose for 2 years to keep the cap clean wouldn't be a problem.

Problem is that being in the 2nd apron for 2 more years does ruin the Suns flexibility when, ideally, they won't suck out in the future.

Did he not just flush that much the last 2 years? How well was that money spent?

Not to mention if getting under the apron was truly the priority Grayson's contract could have been dumped to the nets with some of the draft capital we used to move up in the second round

Yes, this I agree with, pending the draft capital. And, to be fair, may still happen with other future picks as they haven't officially stretched the contract yet. I highly doubt it'll happen but who knows.

 

[CardNots]

Wow, 111 pages and counting for off season changes. Been a busy off-season for sure.