Suns draft Rasheer Fleming with the 31st pick

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Dunn appears to be a confidence issue. I've heard EJ reference confidence as an issue also. He appears timid to shoot from deep unless he's wide open. Even then he takes his time. He's not active on offense and that causes him to check out on defense as well. Granted on D he's not being tested a lot but he's slower on switches than I remember him early in the year. It doesn't appear he's dogging it but more of mental lapses. He doesn't see extended stretches on the floor either so or appears Ott isn't relying a lot on him. He went from fringe starter to fringe rotation player though and that's troubling.

I'd be fine if the team quietly shopped him this summer. Maybe try and get a pick in the late teens for him. He isn't useless but he's not what anyone hoped for at this point.
I think his role has changed from season one. We used to let him lock on one guy. Dunn obviously is more skilled at defending one on one. Now we have him playing switching defense, and I think he gets lost on the angles and letting guys get past him. We need to look more at letting him do what he's good at, staying on one guy and trying to shut them down.
 

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rasheer tied career highs in both points (8) and boards (6) tonight against the kings on 15 minutes

dude was 2-3 from deep - dude created havoc on the other end - it doesnt get anymore 3andD than that - more and more confident by the minute - dude

and once again - i am so happy he landed with this particular suns team and staff - can't mention it enough - lord knows where oso would be if he had ott his rookie year but that's water under the vogel

rasheer comes into phx the only year that devin booker ever came into the gym and saw someone there earlier/before him (brooks) - that's the kind of work ethic rasheer has witnessed in his short but super impressionable time

ish's g-league team... that's where fleming figured out he wasn't a g-league player - that's where everyone found out - now he's finding that same comfortability on the big stage

when he shoots the 3 you know if it's going in - if it's silky smooth i don't even look - i don't watch it drop - i just jump off the couch - jog out of the room kissing my fingers and winking at my wife

sidebar on ryan dunn - who i still have all my faith in - i don't think the rise of rasheer fleming will diminish dunn's minutes - i think they go great together - especially with gillespie and oso - rasheer's screens are nice and allow ighodaro to run free
 
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Suns slow played the development of Rasheer Fleming to the chagrin of many - which led to not so good grades on the Suns rookie draft class. Maybe the Phoenix brass knew what they were doing! Fleming is turning into a huge piece for them.
 

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Rasheer Fleming has played 93 minutes in the last 6 games and has a total plus minus of +42 and hasn't had a single game where he was a negative.

Highly impactful for a rookie. He's been good!
 

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Suns slow played the development of Rasheer Fleming to the chagrin of many - which led to not so good grades on the Suns rookie draft class. Maybe the Phoenix brass knew what they were doing! Fleming is turning into a huge piece for them.
The Suns have certainly earned the benefit of the doubt and that is what has given me hope for Maluach, who I wasn't very high on during the draft.

For as much crap as the Suns have deservedly received for having their big swings blowing up in their faces, the drafting since Ishbia took over has been pretty remarkable.

Toumani Camara- likely goes in the lottery in a re-draft.
Ryan Dunn - only player picked after him who has been demonstrably better is Oso.
Oso - easily a 1st round talent

Then this years class. Flemming looks like a stud in the making and I'm withholding judgement on Maluach for now. So it appears Brea has a shot at being their biggest miss so far(though too early to tell), and one of the biggest factors in them taking him was they were only wanting guys who'd accept a 2 way deal since they didn't want 3 rooks with guaranteed contracts.
 

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rasheer tied career highs in both points (8) and boards (6) tonight against the kings on 15 minutes

dude was 2-3 from deep - dude created havoc on the other end - it doesnt get anymore 3andD than that - more and more confident by the minute - dude

and once again - i am so happy he landed with this particular suns team and staff - can't mention it enough - lord knows where oso would be if he had ott his rookie year but that's water under the vogel

rasheer comes into phx the only year that devin booker ever came into the gym and saw someone there earlier/before him (brooks) - that's the kind of work ethic rasheer has witnessed in his short but super impressionable time

ish's g-league team... that's where fleming figured out he wasn't a g-league player - that's where everyone found out - now he's finding that same comfortability on the big stage

when he shoots the 3 you know if it's going in - if it's silky smooth i don't even look - i don't watch it drop - i just jump off the couch - jog out of the room kissing my fingers and winking at my wife

sidebar on ryan dunn - who i still have all my faith in - i don't think the rise of rasheer fleming will diminish dunn's minutes - i think they go great together - especially with gillespie and oso - rasheer's screens are nice and allow ighodaro to run free
Something has to give when Goodwin comes back.

My bet is it is Dunn's and Coffee's minutes.
 

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The Suns have certainly earned the benefit of the doubt and that is what has given me hope for Maluach, who I wasn't very high on during the draft.
I'm still not seeing it with Maluach. He just isn't good at anything. Can't post, not a good rebounder or rim defender, gets pushed out of position easily. Arguably the best part of his game is his 3 point shot which is probably at about 25% level.

I want to believe, but he's still not showing much of anything even in the G-league.
 

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I'm still not seeing it with Maluach. He just isn't good at anything. Can't post, not a good rebounder or rim defender, gets pushed out of position easily. Arguably the best part of his game is his 3 point shot which is probably at about 25% level.

I want to believe, but he's still not showing much of anything even in the G-league.

I understand where you are coming from, but Maluach has played quite well in the G-League of late. Below is the most recent box score I could find. See link:

Now if you look at a player like Maxime Raynaud, he is three years older than Khaman. I heard it mentioned, I believe pregame, the reason Maluach is not playing is because he is not strong enough yet.

I do wish he flashed more athleticism like Fleming, but a high basketball IQ and measurements can carry a player a long ways. Some of his shortcomings can be traced to not playing a lot of basketball when he was young.

 

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I want to believe, but he's still not showing much of anything even in the G-league.
I may be skeptical about what he projected to be in the NBA, but I'm not sure what else you would expect from him in the G-League. He is averaging 17+ppg 13+rpg(over 5 of which are offensive) and 2bpg. And those numbers are trending up.

His efficiency is terrible, but that is mostly due to to having such a high usage rate so not unexpected given where he is in his development. Not sure if the high usage is by design and is the staff throwing him into the deep end to grow his game, or if the guard play is just that bad.
 

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I understand where you are coming from, but Maluach has played quite well in the G-League of late. Below is the most recent box score I could find. See link:

Now if you look at a player like Maxime Raynaud, he is three years older than Khaman. I heard it mentioned, I believe pregame, the reason Maluach is not playing is because he is not strong enough yet.

I do wish he flashed more athleticism like Fleming, but a high basketball IQ and measurements can carry a player a long ways. Some of his shortcomings can be traced to not playing a lot of basketball when he was young.

That meets the eye test. He's been easily pushed around on rebounding and position D. Sure his court vision is also lacking but that can improve with experience and coaching. He does have a soft touch and good 3pt shooting basics.
 

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I'm still not seeing it with Maluach. He just isn't good at anything. Can't post, not a good rebounder or rim defender, gets pushed out of position easily. Arguably the best part of his game is his 3 point shot which is probably at about 25% level.

I want to believe, but he's still not showing much of anything even in the G-league.
Huh? He’s rebounding at a high level in g league. His numbers seem fine down there. He is definitely long. It’s entirely about him caching up to his body and the speed of the nba. Don’t get me wrong, he’s not a sure thing. But I don’t think we are seeing even an inkling of what he can be, or what the suns see in him.
 

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Since getting significant playing time (his last 6 GP), Rasheer Fleming has a DFG% of 35.1% on 6.2 DFGA, best of any Sun.

Add that to shooting 45.0% from 3 (on 3.3 3PA)… the Suns have themselves a hell of a player.
 

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I understand where you are coming from, but Maluach has played quite well in the G-League of late. Below is the most recent box score I could find. See link:

Now if you look at a player like Maxime Raynaud, he is three years older than Khaman. I heard it mentioned, I believe pregame, the reason Maluach is not playing is because he is not strong enough yet.

I do wish he flashed more athleticism like Fleming, but a high basketball IQ and measurements can carry a player a long ways. Some of his shortcomings can be traced to not playing a lot of basketball when he was young.

Has he though? His g-league highlights are not impressive to me at all. Mostly wide open dunks.
 

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Suns defense WITHOUT Rasheer Fleming:
• 113.4 Drtg — equivalent of 14th in NBA.

Suns defense WITH Rasheer Fleming:
• 107.6 Drtg — equivalent of 2nd in NBA.

The multiple impacts provided have been key, especially of late.

Sidenote: 52% on 3.6 3PA in this recent 7-game window.
 

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Rasheer's 51.9% from deep since the All-Star break is the best eight-game 3FG% span by a Suns rookie since Leandro Barbosa in 2003-04 (min. 25 3FGA)
 

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I believe he should get big minutes until Dillon comes back. Then coach has to evaluate who deserves regular PT in the playoffs. To me it seems Fleming has moved past Dunn and maybe Royce when it comes to overall contributions. More offense than Dunn, more defense and size than Royce. Still nice that coach finds minutes for Highsmith and sometimes Coffey as well.
 
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