Senior Bowl 2019

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  1. Chopper0080

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    Recaps are everywhere but here is what I saw from the TV.

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    Wisconsin linemen got beat up. None looked great, and makes you wonder if the unit is what is strong.

    Best OL. Chuma Edoga USC and Caleb McGary Washington. Both played OT and both looked really good.

    Best of the rest. Lindstrom BC and Risner KState both looked good. Nate Davis from Charlotte looked he belonged inside at OG.

    DL. Greg Gaines DT Washington was a high energy guy who flashed. Not a physical a specimen. JAlen Jelks showed some power that I did not know he had. Wren, Saunders, and Collier also flashed really well in moments.

    At WR McLaurin from Ohio St stood out along with Penny Hart and Keelan Doss who are two small school guys.


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    At OG BJ Autry is a tank vs the bull rush. He is 350 at OG. Oli Udoh looked good at RT and RG. Andre Dillard has good feet at LT but did not show any power in his game. Tytus Howard was good. Elgton Jenkins was good at C.

    Sweat stole the show on the defensive side. Granderson and Ferguson also looked good on the edge.

    Deebo looked good at WR. Anthony Johnson looked ok.
     
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    Scouts raving about 2 smallish WRs.

    Andy Isabella, WR, UMass
    Scouts and executives have been raving about Isabella all week and for good reason. He might be 5-8, 187 pounds, but he's been damn near uncoverable.

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    If you don't get your hands on Andy Isabella, you're toast




    Isabella led the NCAA with 141 receiving yards per game in 2018 -- including a 219-yard, two-touchdown effort against Georgia, where he lined up against potential first-round pick Deandre Baker several times. Of course, opponents had taken to double-teaming Isabella all season -- with little success -- for the reasons you seen in the clip above: He's just too quick. If there's one thing coaches would like to see less of out of the UMass wideout it's the stutter-steps before he gets out of his break. Other than that, he's had a solid week and only boosted his draft stock. And the same can be said for Penny Hart ...

    Penny Hart, WR, Georgia State
    Penny Hart, like Isabella, is listed at 5-8. And like Isabella, he's been the talk of the Senior Bowl. CBS Sports Senior writer Pete Prisco reported on Wednesday that a wide receivers coach was raving about Hart, who has been blowing by people all week.
     
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    Hot WR according to TV buzz is Deebo Samuel.
     
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    Pass on Isabella. Hart is showing out so far.

    If you want a nice mid round steal for the o line, look at Chuma Edoga USC. He reminds me a ton of Terron Armstead when the Saints took him in round 3. Smooth athlete with good size who just needed to add a bit of physicality to his game at LT.
     
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    Deebo's main comp is really Percy Harvin. Thicker guy, RB strength, and really fast.

    Injuries are the big concern with Deebo, or we would likely be talking about him as a first round guy. IMO he's a better Christian Kirk (and I really like Kirk).
     
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    John Lynch , GM 49ers, just told a story live on TV, while Gardner Minshew II was running the sets. The players received playbooks before coming to Mobile. Gardner called Shanahan and the staff and pointed out the errors in the playbook. P S 49ers admitted he was correct. Called Minshew a brainy/coach QB with skills. If he is there in 3rd, please snatch him.

    BTW, fluent in Air Raid.
     
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    As the story goes Minshew was prepared to transfer to Alabama in order to get a head start on his future coaching career. Leach called him up and asked him if he wanted to lead the nation in passing. The rest is history. (Story was told to me by a WSU alum and not sure where he got it)

    That being said, I don't think he has a strong enough arm. The games I watched he seemed to throw a lot of wobbly, floater type passes even on short routes. But who knows. If you can get him in the later rounds to help Josh along then maybe . But I'm talking one of the 6th rounders .
     
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    I follow South Carolina football, and Samuels has been about as explosive as any player in the country over the past few years.

    Without injury concerns, he's probably one of the top 5 weapons in the draft. He's like a stronger, bigger, faster Kirk. Percy Harvin-like. If the Cardinals are considering a receiver at the top of round 2, he should be in the conversation.
     
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    And he’s more advanced at WR than Percy was. Just not the breakaway speed Percy had.

    I don’t even care if they have a similar skill set, Deebo & Kirk would be beautiful in this offense, where it feeds off of YAC. We’re not gonna draft him though & I respect it.
     
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    It appears to me there is a lot of quality at WR, maybe not a bunch of top end guys but lots of guys who will be drafted in rounds 2-4 that will contribute right away. That’s a good thing for us.
     
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    That was really the problem with Harvin, is that he was really a RB playing WR. Deebo is a WR.

    Yeah I doubt we draft him. I wouldn't doubt if he goes at the end of round one.
     
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    I agree with that assessment. There are like 5-6 end of round one/begin of round two guys. There are probably 10 3rd round guys.

    I have a weird love for WRs, so you often see me advocate taking them. I think it's because I believe that 12 yards per catch is better than 5 yards per carry :).

    Doug and Wolf asked Carson Palmer yesterday, would he rather have a top offensive lineman or a top receiver and he quickly said offensive line. He talked about how important it is for a QB to be able to step into throws. His implication was that a good QB can get the job done with average receivers if he has time. He said offensive and defensive line are really important (duh).
     
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    I'm interested in a lot of TTU, WSU & WVU players as they will be familiar with Kingsbury's system and would better fits as they could transition almost seemlessly. Guys like Andre Dillard, Yodny Cajuste, David Sills, Antoine Wesley & Gary Jennings are on my radar. Maybe Minneshew in later rounds as eventual back up to Rosen.
     
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    There is plenty of talent in this draft at positions of need. Need to nail the number one overall pick and then see who drops. We might be surprised at who is available in rounds 2 and on
     

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