Preliminary extension talks have begun with Shipley

[Ronin]

scott bordow (@sbordow)
12/30/19, 9:36 AM
The Cardinals have begun preliminary contract extension talks with center A.Q. Shipley. I would expect the two sides to reach a deal fairly quickly. Shipley said today he wants to finish his career here

 

[TheCardFan]

scott bordow (@sbordow)
12/30/19, 9:36 AM
The Cardinals have begun preliminary contract extension talks with center A.Q. Shipley. I would expect the two sides to reach a deal fairly quickly. Shipley said today he wants to finish his career here

Hasn't it been finished for awhile now?

 

[PJ1]

Average at best. Would love to upgrade at center and RT.

 

[juza76]

This is a keim move
Shipley is the weak part of the line, not athletic enough for the air raid offense, getting pretty old
A typical illogical move made from one of the most disfunctional organizations

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Yuck

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Need the poop emoji here

 

[Proximo]

Why is anyone surprised by this. Murray is comfortable with him, and he does a passable job.

We have much bigger needs - and limited money and draft picks to fix them with.

 

[Cardiac]

I haven't seen if Shipley has signed an extension or not. If he has it better be for backup money.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

If he remains the starter.

 

[kerouac9]

I'll never really understand the hate that Shipley gets here. People did the same stuff about Lyle Sendlein.

If the Cards could easily upgrade from Shipley, they would have.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

Every year, someone gets a chance to beat out Shipley for that job and they haven't.

 

[TheCardFan]

I'll never really understand the hate that Shipley gets here. People did the same stuff about Lyle Sendlein.

If the Cards could easily upgrade from Shipley, they would have.

Two different issues.

They drafted 3 C's to replace Shipley (4th rd Boehm, 4th rd Cole, 6th rd Galliard).

That doesn't make Shipley good...just better than those guys at this point.

 

[juza76]

I'll never really understand the hate that Shipley gets here. People did the same stuff about Lyle Sendlein.

If the Cards could easily upgrade from Shipley, they would have.

the likely extension seems to be more a case of friendship then based performance

 

[juza76]

Two different issues.

They drafted 3 C's to replace Shipley (4th rd Boehm, 4th rd Cole, 6th rd Galliard).

That doesn't make Shipley good...just better than those guys at this point.

I don't know, before to be part of one worse line in football (Cardinals) he has been a back up for a very mediocre line (colts)
He is a guy with not athletic look, bald, with red cheeks, probably that's why he got some simpathy from keim and arians, and maybe they share the same passion for long drinks

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Every year, someone gets a chance to beat out Shipley for that job and they haven't.

With different coaching staffs as well. Clearly he is doing something right even if he is less that spectacular.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I don't know, before to be part of one worse line in football (Cardinals) he has been a back up for a very mediocre line (colts)
He is a guy with not athletic look, bald, with red cheeks, that's why he got some simpathy from keim and arians, and problably they share the same passion for long drinks

Pretty pathetic comment.

 

[juza76]

Pretty pathetic comment.

I don't really care

 

[cardsfanmd]

I don't really care

Fair enough.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I don't like the move because with Murray it's essential to limit the interior rush. He can evade the exterior rush but pressure up the middle forces him back.

Game plan against the cards was to push up the middle and have the exterior rush run way wide

 

[football karma]

its the "first, do no harm" strategy

my Guillard or Cole, or a draft pick can compete in training camp and take the job

if they can, great. But if they cant, you are no worse off.

 

[Ronin]

I don't like the move because with Murray it's essential to limit the interior rush. He can evade the exterior rush but pressure up the middle forces him back.

Game plan against the cards was to push up the middle and have the exterior rush run way wide

That is the game plan against Brees also. Fwiw

 

[Cardiac]

I'll never really understand the hate that Shipley gets here. People did the same stuff about Lyle Sendlein.

If the Cards could easily upgrade from Shipley, they would have.

To be clear I think Shipley is a solid C but I agree with Chris Sanders that we need a stud at the C position. C and RT are the glaring positions on the Olione that need to be addressed this offseason, assuming Hump is kept.

 

[kerouac9]

To be clear I think Shipley is a solid C but I agree with Chris Sanders that we need a stud at the C position. C and RT are the glaring positions on the Olione that need to be addressed this offseason, assuming Hump is kept.

I think that RT is the only glaring OL position that needs to be addressed with a solid player. You can add in OC as the next most obvious place for an upgrade because everyone else is expensive/under contract.

But we can be an above-average offensive line by replacing Justin Murray with a good lineman. I wouldn't pass on an elite guard prospect because we have Justin Pugh under contract through 2022 or because Sweezy had a solid season.

 

[Chopper0080]

I think that RT is the only glaring OL position that needs to be addressed with a solid player. You can add in OC as the next most obvious place for an upgrade because everyone else is expensive/under contract.

But we can be an above-average offensive line by replacing Justin Murray with a good lineman. I wouldn't pass on an elite guard prospect because we have Justin Pugh under contract through 2022 or because Sweezy had a solid season.

I would make this argument across the board. No player on our roster should prevent us from adding someone we think can be special. That said, rolling out this offensive line next year isn't the worst situation either.

Shipley is a reflection of our line as a whole. Is he/it up-gradable? Yes. Are we willing/able to to use the resources to acquire that level of upgrade? To be determined.

 

[Cardiac]

I think that RT is the only glaring OL position that needs to be addressed with a solid player. You can add in OC as the next most obvious place for an upgrade because everyone else is expensive/under contract.

But we can be an above-average offensive line by replacing Justin Murray with a good lineman. I wouldn't pass on an elite guard prospect because we have Justin Pugh under contract through 2022 or because Sweezy had a solid season.

Again, Shipley is solid but IMHO this unit needs a difference maker at the C position. Murray impressed me in how he played especially considering he was picked up after the season started but I agree he needs to be upgrade first.

What is your needs list for this team?

OT
DE
ILB
OLB
C
WR

This are the main needs IMO and pretty much in this order.