Path to the draft....trades, rumors, etc

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    This must be due to Kliffs pad right?
     
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    https://sports.yahoo.com/peter-king-penei-sewell-best-174202942.html

     
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    Now watch 7 Pro Bowlers and 2 HOF DT's come out of this draft...haha
     
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    Really, defensive tackle is a complicated position to evaluate, then many factors does the difference when they jump among the pro
     
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    this is likely nothing....


    but in the span of a few days, two people connected with the Cardinals have said the words "inside linebacker" when discussing the draft

    first was Stu Grigson, head of player personnel on the Big Red Rage. In fairness to Stu, he as responding to a hypothetical question on ranking players -- but the first position he talked about was...... inside linebacker

    now, Cards put the below out there......


     
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    This is really going to hurt the "You have to draft a 1st or 2nd round running back to have a shot at a great one" crowd.

    "We know that investing in better linemen with ability to run block (as well as pass block) and a play caller who knows when to call run plays (situations that are more likely to deliver success) and how to deploy personnel (to dictate box count) will see substantially more success than a strong individual RB with poor run blocking and inefficient play calling."
     
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    This article is silly because it sets inconsistent parameters. At some point it mentions the importance of the rule changes in 2010, but knocks the Cardinals and other teams for drafting a 1st round RB before those changes. It holds YPC as the greatest measure of success, but if we really go back, what are the qualifiers around those YPCs? Like, he says 15 if 20 backs didn't lead their team in YPC as the primary ball carrier, but are we going to pretend that the one game Devontae Booker had where he started and played well invalidates the 273 carries and Pro Bowl nod Josh Jacobs got in 15 other games? Is not being the "YPC Leader" while still being the primary back one year out of your entire rookie deal enough to say it's bad to draft a 1st round rookie?

    There's so many missing factors here.

    Also, for what it's worth, I don't think there's a single poster here advocating that RBs can't be good outside of the 1st or 2nd round. In my particular case, we don't have mid-round picks and we have 8 or so likely-to-take-RB picks between our 16th and 49th, so the point was only ever "take an RB at 16 or miss out on anyone of reasonable high end talent and value." It's basically 1st or 10th-at best, you pick.

    I'd love for this article to be written up on players in the 5th round and beyond, because I'll guarantee you the numbers are much worse for 5th+ rounders.
     
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    I've never said the chances of getting a good RB are as high in the 5th.

    My point has always been that high round running backs don't improve a teams chance of winning anywhere near as much as other positions. As the article proves in every way.

    And its not just this article. I could show you several similar.

    Better run blocking and play calling is far more important.
     
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