Suns Off Season Changes for 2025: Trades, Buyouts, GM, Coaches, etc.

[Finito]

This is pretty extreme hyperbole all around. Would love to see the data here.

It’s been beaten to death in the Booker thread

 

[GatorAZ]

A team in the East should go after KD. The Celtics are down their best player and the Cavs are frauds. If I’m Orlando or Detroit I’m calling the Suns about both our guys.

 

[Cheesebeef]

A team in the East should go after KD. The Celtics are down their best player and the Cavs are frauds. If I’m Orlando or Detroit I’m calling the Suns about both our guys.

Yup.

 

[Hoop Head]

A team in the East should go after KD. The Celtics are down their best player and the Cavs are frauds. If I’m Orlando or Detroit I’m calling the Suns about both our guys.

Celtics were rumored as a team before the Tatum injury. They want to free up salary and he'd do that with his expiring while maintaining their ceiling. A trio of Jaylen, Jayson, and Durant is a lot of firepower also. Holiday is their odd man out with Derrick White ascending.

 

[Mainstreet]

Celtics were rumored as a team before the Tatum injury. They want to free up salary and he'd do that with his expiring while maintaining their ceiling. A trio of Jaylen, Jayson, and Durant is a lot of firepower also. Holiday is their odd man out with Derrick White ascending.

The idea is getting closer.

 

[Hoop Head]

The idea is getting closer.

I'm curious how Boston handles Tatum's injury. Obviously he's out a year with the Achilles so they should file for the disabled player exception. The main thing that will be worth monitoring is if that effects their tax apron status. That is why they wanted to unload Jrue and Porzingis from all reports I've seen.


These apron issues raise a lot of questions. It's worth seeing how this effects them though given the cap hell we're in. If injury exceptions can be aggregated with a salary for trade purposes that could create a pathout of salary cap purgatory.

 

[Cheesebeef]

The idea is getting closer.

Why in the world would you want it to? Do you want to see us trade for an aging Holiday or a perpetually injured Porzingis? I think a trade revolving around either guy would be a disastrous move that does nothing in the present and squanders the ability to use KD’s value to get draft picks to help build for the future.

 

[Phrazbit]

Dude, he’s not even 37 yet, much less 38. Man, I get being pissed about the Durant trade that blew the team up. I get being pissed that he wasn’t the same player he used to be. But the way some of y’all go out of your way to stretch truth about his age or “him getting crushed by Curry” to denigrate him and his value, even in the face of apparently getting offered Butler, Kuminga and 2 firsts for him earlier this season, is just bizarre.

We ain’t getting anywhere close to the bounty we gave up for him, but we aren’t going to get stuck with a bucket of dog snot either. Dude can still hoop at a really high level and even though it’s clear he ain’t a 1 anymore, he can still be a great 2 for the right team that he could put over the top.

He is going to be 37 before the season starts next year.

And how would you describe blowing a 3-1 series lead... then joining the team who beat you? That is about as crushing as it gets.

And anyone who gives up real value for him is an idiot... luckily there is not shortage of idiots running NBA teams, but I don't think we are going to remotely sniff what we gave up for him.

 

[Phrazbit]

Celtics were rumored as a team before the Tatum injury. They want to free up salary and he'd do that with his expiring while maintaining their ceiling. A trio of Jaylen, Jayson, and Durant is a lot of firepower also. Holiday is their odd man out with Derrick White ascending.

The idea is getting closer.

I am sorry, but any notion of the Suns trading Durant for another superstar, like Giannis or Tatum, or for a potential star, like Flagg... that is a pipe dream. Zero chance. There are countless reasons... mostly that it makes no sense for the opposite side, but even beyond that, trading with teams who are also over the apron is essentially impossible.

I think he gets moved for some picks and a young player... and some crappy contracts. Houston preferably, despite the press they are floating, a trade makes a lot of sense for them.

I don't think trading him is going to be even remotely as simple as people presume it will. Giving up real value for a 37 year old is... flat out stupid, but we need to find a team that is stupid enough to give up that value AND is actually able to. Finding teams that are not over the apron AND have the contracts to send back is difficult. There are a lot of teams who the rules basically eliminate as a trade partner, needing to send back a huge portion of contract value, without gutting a roster, is a bigger hangup.

 

[Covert Rain]

Ishbia already basically said we will be below the 2nd apron this year.

If they can somehow dump enough salary by somehow unloading Beal though, I don't put it past them running the rest back. I have a bad feeling with time Ishbia will convince himself the team wasn't really that bad, it was just the coaching.

They have to or it will start impacting their draft positions. The rest though worries me as well. If they get a new coach and that coach thinks I can work with this? UGH!

Anything short of trading Durant and getting rid of Beal will feel like a failed off season for me. If they moved Book as well (yes I know that will never happen), it would be a huge success and there would be hope with a fully restocked cupboard.

 

[Mainstreet]

Why in the world would you want it to? Do you want to see us trade for an aging Holiday or a perpetually injured Porzingis? I think a trade revolving around either guy would be a disastrous move that does nothing in the present and squanders the ability to use KD’s value to get draft picks to help build for the future.

I thought the same thing about the trade for Durant and Nurkic.

Find some better trades and I'm all ears.

I don't think Ishbia wants to rebuild while he has Booker. Now if Booker wants out, everything changes.

 

[Mainstreet]

I am sorry, but any notion of the Suns trading Durant for another superstar, like Giannis or Tatum, or for a potential star, like Flagg... that is a pipe dream. Zero chance. There are countless reasons... mostly that it makes no sense for the opposite side, but even beyond that, trading with teams who are also over the apron is essentially impossible.

I think he gets moved for some picks and a young player... and some crappy contracts. Houston preferably, despite the press they are floating, a trade makes a lot of sense for them.

I don't think trading him is going to be even remotely as simple as people presume it will. Giving up real value for a 37 year old is... flat out stupid, but we need to find a team that is stupid enough to give up that value AND is actually able to. Finding teams that are not over the apron AND have the contracts to send back is difficult. There are a lot of teams who the rules basically eliminate as a trade partner, needing to send back a huge portion of contract value, without gutting a roster, is a bigger hangup.

@Hoop Head and I were referring to an old trade rumor that would somehow send Holiday and Porzingis to the Suns with Durant going to the Celtics.

The salaries wouldn't work right now, even if both teams were interested.

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[Cheesebeef]

I thought the same thing about the trade for Durant and Nurkic.

Find some better trades and I'm all ears.

That didn’t answer my question. Why do you want to build around an old, somewhat injury prone PG who’s declining and a guy who can never stay healthy? Why do you think they would be good additions?

 

[Proximo]

That didn’t answer my question. Why do you want to build around an old, somewhat injury prone PG who’s declining and a guy who can never stay healthy? Why do you think they would be good additions?

He is under the delusion a rebuild can be avoided. Same as Ishbia.

As the west gets stronger and stronger, which it just did after the draft lottery, and soon Giannis coming over, that idea only gets more and more ridiculous.

 

[Proximo]

Why in the world would you want it to? Do you want to see us trade for an aging Holiday or a perpetually injured Porzingis? I think a trade revolving around either guy would be a disastrous move that does nothing in the present and squanders the ability to use KD’s value to get draft picks to help build for the future.

I think anyone that currently wants Porzingis has got a screw loose.

He has some wacky illness thing going on that they don't even seem to understand. Trading for him is like asking to get screwed.

 

[Mulli]

I think anyone that currently wants Porzingis has got a screw loose.

He has some wacky illness thing going on that they don't even seem to understand. Trading for him is like asking to get screwed.

 

[BirdGangThing]

we need someone who can compete with anthony edwards for the next 10+ years and that person is not on the team right now

we also need a center - a real one - with nick richards as the back up

if oso doesn't pick up some weight and a jumpshot oso has gotta go - you can't get bullied underneath and and have no range in today's nba - grow some muscles and develop some muscle memory for f***s sake - talking barkley golf swing bad

 

[Ronin]

I think anyone that currently wants Porzingis has got a screw loose.

He has some wacky illness thing going on that they don't even seem to understand. Trading for him is like asking to get screwed.

This does not add anything to the conversation. It could've been avoided.

 

[Hoop Head]

He is under the delusion a rebuild can be avoided. Same as Ishbia.

As the west gets stronger and stronger, which it just did after the draft lottery, and soon Giannis coming over, that idea only gets more and more ridiculous.

Is it being delusional or accepting that Ishbia isn't going all in on a rebuild? You seem to understand that is where Ishbia is at. Why claim it's delusional to hope for the best from that stance? We can scream from the rooftops which direction we want Ishbia to take but that won't make it happen. Some of us aren't resigned to hating every move the team makes.

 

[leclerc]

I guess it's a difference in opinion. We've all got them, strong or indifferent, but I hope that next season gives us a better Suns team to cheer on.

Now go throw some money at Collin Gillespie!

 

[Raindog]

Is it being delusional or accepting that Ishbia isn't going all in on a rebuild? You seem to understand that is where Ishbia is at. Why claim it's delusional to hope for the best from that stance? We can scream from the rooftops which direction we want Ishbia to take but that won't make it happen. Some of us aren't resigned to hating every move the team makes.

Indeed. And the Suns aren't necessarily doomed to being bad or worse next year even if they do elect to bring everyone back for another run. They could conceivably even be improved with some fixes around the edges and better coaching. Not contenders, but likely not any worse than mediocre either.

Yes, that is a terrible strategy for the future because it's only putting off the inevitable likely eventual disaster. Nevertheless, the problem isn't really next season itself, but the ones beyond that.

 

[Hoop Head]

Indeed. And the Suns aren't necessarily doomed to being bad or worse next year even if they do elect to bring everyone back for another run. They could conceivably even be improved with some fixes around the edges and better coaching. Not contenders, but likely not any worse than mediocre either.

Yes, that is a terrible strategy for the future because it's only putting off the inevitable likely eventual disaster. Nevertheless, the problem isn't really next season itself, but the ones beyond that.

The 2028-30 seasons are where I believe we're in actual hell. That can be avoided to a certain extent but being a play in team until then is likely the best case scenario. By play in I mean anywhere from 7-10 seed.

We aren't winning a championship any time soon but I'd be fine with seeing a team fight like this year's Warriors.

 

[gmabel830]

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