Suns Off Season Changes for 2025: Trades, Buyouts, GM, Coaches, etc.

[Raindog]

You think you’re getting 6-8 picks plus young talent? Lol

We have zero leverage teams know we are desperate AF hell just to cut salary at this point.

We are selling at pennies on the dollar. Durant and Booker aren’t close to what they were worth 3 years ago

We still have some leverage in trading either or both of them. We don't have to trade either one, and in fact, Ishbia hasn't even endorsed trading Booker. And it's not like either is forcing their way out either (as of yet).

So the reality is that both will still have sufficient trade value if we act this off-season, and quite likely could be the most desirable stars available, depending what happens with Giannis.

 

[Mainstreet]

We still have some leverage in trading either or both of them. We don't have to trade either one, and in fact, Ishbia hasn't even endorsed trading Booker. And it's not like either is forcing their way out either (as of yet).

So the reality is that both will still have sufficient trade value if we act this off-season, and quite likely could be the most desirable stars available, depending what happens with Giannis.

If the Suns can lose Beal's contract, it takes a lot of pressure off Phoenix. IMO, the most likely option is a buyout and stretch. They have some other contracts they can trade.

The key is getting under the 2nd tax apron so they can maneuver and explore trades without being under duress. Durant is going to want an extension no matter where he plays.

If the Suns had a top GM, I might think they have an ace in their pocket. However, the hire of Brian Gregory is a puzzler.

 

[Finito]

We still have some leverage in trading either or both of them. We don't have to trade either one, and in fact, Ishbia hasn't even endorsed trading Booker. And it's not like either is forcing their way out either (as of yet).

So the reality is that both will still have sufficient trade value if we act this off-season, and quite likely could be the most desirable stars available, depending what happens with Giannis.

We do. It would be the most insanely stupid thing ever to head into next season with this same team in this same situation

We have the highest payroll ever

 

[Proximo]

We do. It would be the most insanely stupid thing ever to head into next season with this same team in this same situation

We have the highest payroll ever

Ishbia already basically said we will be below the 2nd apron this year.

If they can somehow dump enough salary by somehow unloading Beal though, I don't put it past them running the rest back. I have a bad feeling with time Ishbia will convince himself the team wasn't really that bad, it was just the coaching.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Ishbia already basically said we will be below the 2nd apron this year.

If they can somehow dump enough salary by somehow unloading Beal though, I don't put it past them running the rest back. I have a bad feeling with time Ishbia will convince himself the team wasn't really that bad, it was just the coaching.

if they could ditch beal and get a real big - ish probably would try and run it back

 

[Ronin]

'Great progress': Phoenix Suns have interviewed numerous head coach candidates

Phoenix Suns fired Mike Budenholzer last month after going 36-46 in his one season as head coach.

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[leclerc]

If we trade Booker to Houston we've got to get a young player back along with at least 2-3 1st rounders. Cannot only take picks IMO. We have to have something to show for it.

If we are picking early again, we must flush out everyone involved when picking Stix over Halli, and all those missed early picks. For instance that knucklehead Josh Johnson and Dragon Bender. Talk about missing the mark. It's a costly mistake to miss so badly so they should not get many chances regardless of how difficult it is to make the "right" pick.

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[Mainstreet]

Isn't anyone excited about who Mat Ishbia and Brian Gregory will hire as the next Suns head coach?

Gambo expects the hire near the end of May or early June.

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[ASUCHRIS]

Durant and Booker aren’t close to what they were worth 3 years ago

Durant maybe, but Booker should be at around the same value. There's simply no reason to fire sale Book...Durant, yes.

 

[taz02]

If Durant is willing to sign a reasonable contract, he will be a valuable trade asset. His 27ppg could put the right team over the top. If he demands a max deal with max length we are screwed.

 

[leclerc]

Hard to be excited about a wide net of 15-20 coaches. 5-10 would give me more reasons to be positive.

 

[95pro]

If Durant is willing to sign a reasonable contract, he will be a valuable trade asset. His 27ppg could put the right team over the top. If he demands a max deal with max length we are screwed.

Dream scenario for me is them taking slight cut to something like 40M-45M. They are not obligated to but if they want to build a winner then freeing up some cap space is needed. Truth is though that we are looking at Booker for 70M.

 

[Finito]

Durant maybe, but Booker should be at around the same value. There's simply no reason to fire sale Book...Durant, yes.

Bookers efficiency stats including 4th quarter clutch stats have fallen off the face of the earth

Also his defense rating went from damn near elite to embarrassing

 

[Finito]

Isn't anyone excited about who Mat Ishbia and Brian Gregory will hire as the next Suns head coach?

Gambo expects the hire near the end of May or early June.

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No because whoever the coach is is going to be a lame duck. We are already paying 3 head coaches we aren’t going to give this next one any kind of money.

 

[BirdGangThing]

No because whoever the coach is is going to be a lame duck. We are already paying 3 head coaches we aren’t going to give this next one any kind of money.

we pay coaches to leave after one year - nobody is going to blame a big name coach when they ish the bed in phx - everyone should want to coach here

 

[Raindog]

No because whoever the coach is is going to be a lame duck. We are already paying 3 head coaches we aren’t going to give this next one any kind of money.

We are only paying two former HCs - as of this moment, anyway. The Suns stopped owing Monty anything after he took the Detroit job.

 

[Finito]

We are only paying two former HCs - as of this moment, anyway. The Suns stopped owing Monty anything after he took the Detroit job.

That’s still gonna be paying 3 head coaches. Yikes

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Bookers efficiency stats including 4th quarter clutch stats have fallen off the face of the earth

Also his defense rating went from damn near elite to embarrassing

This is pretty extreme hyperbole all around. Would love to see the data here.

 

[Ronin]

Who Suns should target if they get their NBA Draft pick back

In a world where the Suns get their NBA Draft pick back in a Kevin Durant trade, who should they target in the lottery?

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[Raindog]

Who Suns should target if they get their NBA Draft pick back

In a world where the Suns get their NBA Draft pick back in a Kevin Durant trade, who should they target in the lottery?

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Maluach (if he lasts) or Queen (also, if he lasts) are the obvious choices. Otherwise, I guess they would be looking at a dartboard pick.

 

[Proximo]

If Durant is willing to sign a reasonable contract, he will be a valuable trade asset. His 27ppg could put the right team over the top. If he demands a max deal with max length we are screwed.

He is 38 years old.

How many players play well at 38 or above? Maybe Lebron, but he is half the player he used to be.

I do not think his trade value is really that high.

 

[Cheesebeef]

He is 38 years old.

How many players play well at 38 or above? Maybe Lebron, but he is half the player he used to be.

I do not think his trade value is really that high.

Dude, he’s not even 37 yet, much less 38. Man, I get being pissed about the Durant trade that blew the team up. I get being pissed that he wasn’t the same player he used to be. But the way some of y’all go out of your way to stretch truth about his age or “him getting crushed by Curry” to denigrate him and his value, even in the face of apparently getting offered Butler, Kuminga and 2 firsts for him earlier this season, is just bizarre.

We ain’t getting anywhere close to the bounty we gave up for him, but we aren’t going to get stuck with a bucket of dog snot either. Dude can still hoop at a really high level and even though it’s clear he ain’t a 1 anymore, he can still be a great 2 for the right team that he could put over the top.

 

[Hoop Head]

Dude, he’s not even 37 yet, much less 38. Man, I get being pissed about the Durant trade that blew the team up. I get being pissed that he wasn’t the same player he used to be. But the way some of y’all go out of your way to stretch truth about his age or “him getting crushed by Curry” to denigrate him and his value, even in the face of apparently getting offered Butler, Kuminga and 2 firsts for him earlier this season, is just bizarre.

We ain’t getting anywhere close to the bounty we gave up for him, but we aren’t going to get stuck with a bucket of dog snot either. Dude can still hoop at a really high level and even though it’s clear he ain’t a 1 anymore, he can still be a great 2 for the right team that he could put over the top.

We're over the 2nd apron and couldn't have received more than sent out in a trade. Butler + Kuminga is more than KD's salary. We also can't aggregate salaries. So how do we get that package? Using a hypothetical trade, which didn't happen, isn't a great measure of his value either given Butler and Kuminga were both been in their team's dog houses and their values were at all time lows.

I'd really like to know though how we could have received that package since it goes against all 2nd apron rules.

 

[Mainstreet]

No because whoever the coach is is going to be a lame duck. We are already paying 3 head coaches we aren’t going to give this next one any kind of money.

There is no salary cap on coaches.

Now it looks like the Suns are at the thrift store shopping for GMs, coaches, players and draft picks because they spent their wad of cash.

About the only thing the Suns had going for them is a rich owner that would spend.

Who knows. Maybe the Suns are the next pro team out of the Valley.

 

[Hoop Head]

Disagree that Durant could ever be a "2." His ego and self-absorption would prevent that.

He has been in the past but he has his rings now. The 1's needed to be passive enough to let KD feel in charge. Russ and Steph both did that for him.