Palmer to Cardinals rumors heating up to a boil...

[red desert]

With our impending signing of Carson Palmer I thought it appropriate to start a new thread.

http://www.revengeofthebirds.com/20...iders-qb-reportedly-prefers-arizona-cardinals

 

[red desert]

http://fansided.com/2013/03/30/arizona-cardinals-looking-into-trading-for-carson-palmer/


http://www.azcentral.com/sports/car...lore-trade-carson-palmer-oakland-raiders.html

 

[red desert]

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/3/30/4164080/carson-palmer-trade-cardinals-raiders-rumors

Your one stop Palmer to Az rumor mill...

 

[JeffGollin]

Do we know for a fact that the Cards want to force a trade? Did the "report" come from Jurecki (who's referenced in a subsequent paragraph)? And, if not, what's the source?

The article was written as though it was hard news, but without a reliable source, and we could be being led down another primrose path along the same lines as the Peyton Manning and 95% Andy Reid rumors. With Jurecki, you never know - sometimes he has insider info, but sometimes he'll prematurely leap on an agent's leak or merely want to stir up buzz.

One thing seems logical - If I were Palmer's agent, I'd love to plant that story because it increases my leverage with the Raiders, the Cardinals and anyone else who has interest in Carson. UPDATE - Apparently, Jurecki is, in fact, the original source for the various accounts which are starting to sprout up like Spring daffodills.

 

[WildBB]

Palmer's status with the Raiders is in question after the team reportedly agreed to a trade with the Seahawks on Friday for backup quarterback Matt Flynn.

 

[red desert]

 

[BigRedRage]

palm trees rock

 

[CardsFan88]

I was thinking what WOULD there be a reason to trade and restructure his contract versus signing him to a new one?

No signing bonus. Meaning we could cut him at any time and only hurt Oakland's cap. That might be worth a late round draft pick or two (if one is next year and conditional).

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Anything more than a 3rd round pick would be a huge mistake, IMO.

 

[BigRedRage]

id rather battle over the FA Palmer vs trading and giving up picks.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Anything more than a 3rd round pick would be a huge mistake, IMO.

I'd consider a 3rd round pick a huge mistake too.

Steve

 

[PJ1]

id rather battle over the FA Palmer vs trading and giving up picks.

Agreed. No more picks for someone that is not the long term answer.

 

[BigRedRage]

Agreed. No more picks for someone that is not the long term answer.

even if he can play 3-5 years, no picks.

Sign him to a normal FA deal. if he prefers elsewhere, he can go elsewhere. we need picks.

 

[Catfish]

This smells much like the 95% certainty of another player coming to the Cardinal's earlier this off season. If we are going to seriously consider him, let him get released first, then go after him on the same level with other competitors. If we can make this the best place for him to be, then do it, BUT if we cannot make that happen, let him go somewhere else without all the fanfare and hoopla of him using us to drive up his price to someone else. Give him an ultimatum, 'come here with the intention to sign, or don't come at all'.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

6th rounder no more, no less.

 

[Mitch]

This smells much like the 95% certainty of another player coming to the Cardinal's earlier this off season. If we are going to seriously consider him, let him get released first, then go after him on the same level with other competitors. If we can make this the best place for him to be, then do it, BUT if we cannot make that happen, let him go somewhere else without all the fanfare and hoopla of him using us to drive up his price to someone else. Give him an ultimatum, 'come here with the intention to sign, or don't come at all'.

I concur 100%.

What I question is Carson Palmer's mindset at this point. If he truly is fine with going to a contender as a backup, then, imo, we shouldn't give up anything to get him.

If someone else wants to trade for Palmer, so be it.

The best case scenario, imo, is that he gets released and then decides wholeheartedly after weighing all options that he wants to QB the Cardinals more than any other team.

If he gets released and his first choice is SF, let him go there---which again speaks to his questionable mindset of being fine with being a backup.

 

[GuernseyCard]

I concur 100%.

What I question is Carson Palmer's mindset at this point. If he truly is fine with going to a contender as a backup, then, imo, we shouldn't give up anything to get him.

If someone else wants to trade for Palmer, so be it.

The best case scenario, imo, is that he gets released and then decides wholeheartedly after weighing all options that he wants to QB the Cardinals more than any other team.

If he gets released and his first choice is SF, let him go there---which again speaks to his questionable mindset of being fine with being a backup.

If it's a trade it will be a "sign and trade" deal and he'll have obviously committed himself to coming to AZ. (IMO)

 

[Buckybird]

All this tells me what BA & Keim REALLY believe in Stanton & Hoyer...which IMO has always smelled like the local dumpster!!!

I'm fine with Palmer, but I'm not coughing up anything more than a 5th rounder & the Cards are fools if its anything more.

 

[Shane]

I'll go out on a pedestal just like Bucky and I did with Manning and just say:

THIS IS NOT HAPPENING!

 

[BigRedRage]

I'll go out on a pedestal just like Bucky and I did with Manning and just say:

THIS IS NOT HAPPENING!

Why not?

Makes more sense for Palmer than it did for Manning.

 

[Shane]

Why not?

Makes more sense for Palmer than it did for Manning.

Could it happen? Sure.

I just think the team is at the point with new set up where they want to set themselves up long term and not get locked into an aging QB.

Raiders will be greedy with their demands. Palmer will get released and land elsewhere IMO. .

 

[Buckybird]

Could it happen? Sure.

I just think the team is at the point with new set up where they want to set themselves up long term and not get locked into an aging QB.

Raiders will be greedy with their demands. Palmer will get released and land elsewhere IMO. .

Sounds like we're thinking alike again.

If the Cards trade for him if cough up a 2, 3 or even a 4 for him, they're idiots & really haven't ever learned a lesson.

 

[Shane]

Sounds like we're thinking alike again.

If the Cards trade for him if cough up a 2, 3 or even a 4 for him, they're idiots & really haven't ever learned a lesson.

IMO no more than a 6th.. It would also have to be a sign and trade deal where it is mostly incentive laden contract that is easy to get out of. Otherwise HELL NO!

 

[Dayman]

I'll go out on a pedestal just like Bucky and I did with Manning and just say:

THIS IS NOT HAPPENING!

Unlike the last time, I hope you're right about Palmer. I don't see how he helps the long-term development of this team.

 

[red desert]

Anything more than a 3rd round pick would be a huge mistake, IMO.

3rd? I'd love to have him, but not for anything more than a 5th.