OT: Arians doing it again

[Arz101]

It felt like Bucs were going to be 5-11 after first 10 games of the season. Arians says not on my watch and now they are 7-7. Is there a computer program Arians runs to generate a 8-8 seasons like a robot?

Whether you like Arians personality or not, but that man can coach. He is a top 10 coach in the league.

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[Cardinal]

Him and Jameis are a perfect match. Sure it hasn’t been pretty but that passing attack has potential to be one of the best for years to come. Jameis is only 25.

 

[TheCardFan]

Amazing coach...love that dude.

The problem with Arians is his stubbornness.

 

[Redsz]

Are we really that much worse than the Bucs?

 

[Jetstream Green]

It felt like Bucs were going to be 5-11 after first 10 games of the season. Arians says not on my watch and now they are 7-7. Is there a computer program Arians runs to generate a 8-8 seasons like a robot?

Whether you like Arians personality or not, but that man can coach. He is a top 10 coach in the league.

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It's like this, if you cannot win a championship it comes down to the same scenario except with worst draft picks if you win enough. Being a Cardinal fan, it's pretty dang sweet being around 8-8 and above but maybe we should check ourselves because if Arians was the coach of a storied franchise, people might be saying he's not a top ten coach which is why freaking Whisenhunt still holds the edge on him because he got to one

 

[b8rtm8nn]

Bowles already has the defense in the top 10 DVOA, and it isn't even a strong roster.

And people want to give Joseph another year *pffft*

 

[82CardsGrad]

BA can coach... And the sky is blue... Duh!

 

[cardsfanmd]

Arians is a great coach and it was sad to see him go but Kliff + Kyler > Bruce + Jameis

 

[SeattleCard]

Loved BA. Hopeful with Kliff.

 

[speedy]

Arians is a great coach and it was sad to see him go but Kliff + Kyler > Bruce + Jameis

The difference is, BA knows how to win games. Kliff is still learning how to do this. If we pull out a win in SEA or LA, I’ll feel real confident he will be on a very solid track towards success.

 

[Solar7]

Arians is a great coach and it was sad to see him go but Kliff + Kyler > Bruce + Jameis

Dude, really? 2x coach of the year and a guy who can/has put up top ten passing numbers throughout his career, vs. the "I can't win in college much less the NFL" head coach and a rookie? Rose colored glasses. Not that I love Jameis, but Kliff can't hold Bruce's jock strap.

Are we really that much worse than the Bucs?

Yes. All the way around.

 

[DVontel]

Arians is a great coach and it was sad to see him go but Kliff + Kyler > Bruce + Jameis

I came in to see @Solar7 reply to this & left away victorious.

 

[Solar7]

I came in to see @Solar7 reply to this & left away victorious.

Love you too.

Just don't see how you can say that comment with a straight face.

 

[PACardsFan]

BA is a very good HC. Too bad we almost never had a healthy Palmer during his tenure. And by the way, K1 is >>>>>> Jameis. Just longing for the day that Murray has WR weapons.

 

[SoonerLou]

BA is a very good HC. Too bad we almost never had a healthy Palmer during his tenure. And by the way, K1 is >>>>>> Jameis. Just longing for the day that Murray has WR weapons.

Well we had a chance to get our Chris Godwin, but passed.

Instead we got a guy who is probably not better than Bucs 6th rounder Scotty Miller.

Im sure this hindsight talks annoys a few posters.

 

[Hoodhero]

Arians probably just doomed that franchise by having them win enough to decide keeping Jameis next season. BA is a coach of the now & not the future.

 

[Solar7]

And by the way, K1 is >>>>>> Jameis.

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Two games left, but rookie stats...

KM: 4 wins, 1 tie. 3,279 yards passing, 21 TDs (tot), 10 INTs, 87.5 Rating.
JW: 6 wins, 4,042 yards passing, 28 TDs (tot), 15 INTs, 84.2 Rating.

Seems equal to me, if not a win for Jameis. Gotta stop counting chickens before they hatch.

 

[PACardsFan]

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Two games left, but rookie stats...

KM: 4 wins, 1 tie. 3,279 yards passing, 21 TDs (tot), 10 INTs, 87.5 Rating.
JW: 6 wins, 4,042 yards passing, 28 TDs (tot), 15 INTs, 84.2 Rating.

Seems equal to me, if not a win for Jameis. Gotta stop counting chickens before they hatch.

If I'm alive in 10 years, we'll look back at how their careers played out. Jameis is a moron, but has BA & some serious talent to throw to.

 

[Solar7]

If I'm alive in 10 years, we'll look back at how their careers played out. Jameis is a moron, but has BA & some serious talent to throw to.

Looking forward to having the argument and being on the wrong side. Just so we're clear though, I totally think Kyler is better, with more ahead of him, just that he's not wildly better than him, with only a year under his belt. I'm sure if you polled a bunch of Bucs fans in 2015, they'd have been sure Jameis was the next big superstar.

 

[Krangodnzr]

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Two games left, but rookie stats...

KM: 4 wins, 1 tie. 3,279 yards passing, 21 TDs (tot), 10 INTs, 87.5 Rating.
JW: 6 wins, 4,042 yards passing, 28 TDs (tot), 15 INTs, 84.2 Rating.

Seems equal to me, if not a win for Jameis. Gotta stop counting chickens before they hatch.

Too bad that Jameis has produced an epically bad 82 ints and 31 fumbles lost in his pretty short career.

In Jameis best year for TOs he still had 19 TOs.

 

[DVontel]

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Two games left, but rookie stats...

KM: 4 wins, 1 tie. 3,279 yards passing, 21 TDs (tot), 10 INTs, 87.5 Rating.
JW: 6 wins, 4,042 yards passing, 28 TDs (tot), 15 INTs, 84.2 Rating.

Seems equal to me, if not a win for Jameis. Gotta stop counting chickens before they hatch.

This really speaks volume when Jameis has 2 WR1s & Kyler barely has a WR2.

 

[Solar7]

Too bad that Jameis has produced an epically bad 82 ints and 31 fumbles lost in his pretty short career.

In Jameis best year for TOs he still had 19 TOs.

Jameis isn't a guy I'd want either, but I just really can't stand taking a one year sample size and pretending we can't fall into the same horrible trap. Winston set all kinds of records, and then became a player that his team can't decide upon as the future.

But what they do have is a really good coach, that's far outperforming us, and beat us head to head. We have the guy we're praying is going to become different than he's ever been.

 

[Krangodnzr]

This really speaks volume when Jameis has 2 WR1s & Kyler barely has a WR2.

It really is apples and oranges at times when comparing player performance since football isnt an individual sport.

 

[DVontel]

It really is apples and oranges at times when comparing player performance since football isnt an individual sport.

Yup. I do think Jameis is a unique player though. Not necessarily good or bad. Just unique

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[Krangodnzr]

Jameis isn't a guy I'd want either, but I just really can't stand taking a one year sample size and pretending we can't fall into the same horrible trap. Winston set all kinds of records, and then became a player that his team can't decide upon as the future.

But what they do have is a really good coach, that's far outperforming us, and beat us head to head. We have the guy we're praying is going to become different than he's ever been.

The Bucaneers have a significantly better roster.

I loved Arians for awhile but I've moved on. Got really sick of seeing 30 yard throws incomplete on 3rd & 2.