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Also, for those of you who remember 33 1/3 LP records, there was one done of the Suns for that 76 playoff season that was
the playoff games called by Al McCoy from the first opponent (can't remember who---I think it was pre-Shelton Seattle), then the Golden
State series, then the Celtics. It was really fun to listen to.
I remember, I had that album, I gave it to somebody in the early 80's
 

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Can't. They own the rights. Even if I substantially changed it, they'd probably be within their rights to sue me. I am just the piano player, er, writer.
Ask permission. It's new ownership. Any pub is good pub. You still have the manuscript I assume.

If Sarver gets a cut, or better yet a cut goes to one of his charities, he might do it. It would be great to add some follow-up "where are they now" chapters.
 

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First, they owned the rights and could do with it what they wanted. So I could never publish it.

Second, I did not call it "six seconds or less," that was the catch phrase used to describe Mike D'Antoni's style of play.

There was a little history called "The Little Team that Could" done right after the 76 playoffs. Pretty fluffy, but some good stuff.
I'm still troubled because I really was a fan and was really putting the best spin on everything, but you HAD to deal with Davis's drug stuff. It was
in all the papers.
Reminds me, I’m really sorry that Joe Gilmartin isn’t around to watch this Suns run.
 

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Reminds me, I’m really sorry that Joe Gilmartin isn’t around to watch this Suns run.

I remember reading The Little Team That Could … And Darn Near Did as a kid. It not only covered the 1975-1976 run, but also the birth of the franchise and its entire history up to that time. Gilmartin was such a talented writer.

I would love to read a history that covered more ground, such as the 1980s and 1990s.
 

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You are the first person that remembers the history of the Suns as I remember it. Many a time people have argued with me about it. I do remember everything you mentioned.

I also like to tell my kids about the brief, and it was even in the AZ Republic if I remember right, time Colangelo tried to sign Wilt Chamberlain from the Professional Volley Ball league he was in. Only to have the Lakers who had not renounced his rights go to the league office and said they had one more year of his contract, and if he played anywhere it would be in LA. Just another reason to hate LA! LOL!

People don't remember Connie Hawkins, or his book, I think the title was called Foul! But for two seasons, he had two of the best seasons of anyone that ever played the NBA before he got too old, or injuries, slowed him down.

I am sketchy on a game I watched on TV with X Man playing. One of our guys got crushed and popped up to retaliate, when the other side got their hackles up and their players stepped forward. X Man ran up to the fracas and I remember the other team, all backed down like a fire being put out instantly! No one wanted to mess with the X Man. Not even Jordan!
 

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You are the first person that remembers the history of the Suns as I remember it. Many a time people have argued with me about it. I do remember everything you mentioned.

I also like to tell my kids about the brief, and it was even in the AZ Republic if I remember right, time Colangelo tried to sign Wilt Chamberlain from the Professional Volley Ball league he was in. Only to have the Lakers who had not renounced his rights go to the league office and said they had one more year of his contract, and if he played anywhere it would be in LA. Just another reason to hate LA! LOL!

People don't remember Connie Hawkins, or his book, I think the title was called Foul! But for two seasons, he had two of the best seasons of anyone that ever played the NBA before he got too old, or injuries, slowed him down.

I am sketchy on a game I watched on TV with X Man playing. One of our guys got crushed and popped up to retaliate, when the other side got their hackles up and their players stepped forward. X Man ran up to the fracas and I remember the other team, all backed down like a fire being put out instantly! No one wanted to mess with the X Man. Not even Jordan!
I was so excited when we acquired the Xman and he ended up being such a tremendous disappointment. What did we get for him? Mustaff?
 

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I was so excited when we acquired the Xman and he ended up being such a tremendous disappointment. What did we get for him? Mustaff?
He was past his best days, except for a few good games. He was a bad ass to the end though. One of the all time NBA tough guys.
 

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You are the first person that remembers the history of the Suns as I remember it. Many a time people have argued with me about it. I do remember everything you mentioned.

I also like to tell my kids about the brief, and it was even in the AZ Republic if I remember right, time Colangelo tried to sign Wilt Chamberlain from the Professional Volley Ball league he was in. Only to have the Lakers who had not renounced his rights go to the league office and said they had one more year of his contract, and if he played anywhere it would be in LA. Just another reason to hate LA! LOL!

People don't remember Connie Hawkins, or his book, I think the title was called Foul! But for two seasons, he had two of the best seasons of anyone that ever played the NBA before he got too old, or injuries, slowed him down.

I am sketchy on a game I watched on TV with X Man playing. One of our guys got crushed and popped up to retaliate, when the other side got their hackles up and their players stepped forward. X Man ran up to the fracas and I remember the other team, all backed down like a fire being put out instantly! No one wanted to mess with the X Man. Not even Jordan!


Maybe you remember this:
It was 71 or 72, one of Hawkins's last years in Phoenix. A ball was bouncing out of bounds. Hawk was near it. He ran over and the ball was literally out of bounds by a foot, some six inches off the ground. Hawk, balancing on one leg, reached out and grabbed it in midair and just hung there. The Coliseum was dead quiet as everyone held their breath wondering if he was going to fall. Instead, Hawk reeled it in, and one handed, fired a LENGTH OF THE COURT PASS to a Sun under the opposite basket for a hoop. This was bar none the most amazing play I have
ever seen in the NBA, including some Jordan plays.
 

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In a similar vein, I was excited when we got Truck Robinson.
I thought, "Man, Truck. Now we will finally have a replacement for Lucas and, before him, Perry." Nope. Don't recall if he shot 3s then, but he became a majority-outside jumpshooter.

Still, other than Rudy Tomjanovich, Truck had the most uncanny BANK shot from the corner of the key. It was wild.
 

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Maybe you remember this:
It was 71 or 72, one of Hawkins's last years in Phoenix. A ball was bouncing out of bounds. Hawk was near it. He ran over and the ball was literally out of bounds by a foot, some six inches off the ground. Hawk, balancing on one leg, reached out and grabbed it in midair and just hung there. The Coliseum was dead quiet as everyone held their breath wondering if he was going to fall. Instead, Hawk reeled it in, and one handed, fired a LENGTH OF THE COURT PASS to a Sun under the opposite basket for a hoop. This was bar none the most amazing play I have
ever seen in the NBA, including some Jordan plays.
I did not see that. Plays like that I find more amazing than normal plays. If you read his book Foul, Hawk did some amazing basketball stuff in that book! I remember feeling the desperation coming out of those pages. I also think it's like seeing Satchel Paige in the MLB. You can see the greatness, while realizing their best days were behind them. It makes you wonder if Hawk played in the NBA right out of college, what that would have looked like?
 

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I did not see that. Plays like that I find more amazing than normal plays. If you read his book Foul, Hawk did some amazing basketball stuff in that book! I remember feeling the desperation coming out of those pages. I also think it's like seeing Satchel Paige in the MLB. You can see the greatness, while realizing their best days were behind them. It makes you wonder if Hawk played in the NBA right out of college, what that would have looked like?

Even from the book "Hawk," I never got that Hawkins was the same talent as Jordan who would go shoot 100 free throws AFTER practice. Not the same competitiveness as a Bill Russell, who worked to get inside Wilt's head by being his "friend" so Wilt would hold back a little.
 

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Even from the book "Hawk," I never got that Hawkins was the same talent as Jordan who would go shoot 100 free throws AFTER practice. Not the same competitiveness as a Bill Russell, who worked to get inside Wilt's head by being his "friend" so Wilt would hold back a little.

I'm sure he wasn't but I wonder if that was always the case. I didn't read the book but I do recall he was bitter and disheartened over the way he had been treated. Even the salve of finally allowing him to join the NBA (but only on an expansion franchise in a far off desert town) wasn't enough to fully motivate him.

He was simply incredible at times but even as a teenager watching him play I thought it was obvious that "winning" wasn't always the end all be all for him. But maybe I was influenced by the comments I heard from so many adult fans back then?
 
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