My Cardinals QB corp for 2010

[az jam]

My starter of course is Matt Leinart. I think he is ready and will do well.

My choice for an experienced backup is Chad Pennington. However, he must pass a physical and really be healthy. I chose him over Chris Redman (my second choice) because of all the experience he has as a starter. He also has playoff experience with both the Jets and Dolphins. If Leinart goes down or is horrible it would be good to have an experienced starter step in. He is not a sexy choice but is solid and can lead a team.

My draft pick would be Dan LeFevour. I think we could get him in the 3rd round. I thought he was the best qb in the recent Senior Bowl. He has a nice touch, good at scrambling and shows good leadership of the offense. Mel Kiper says that he really studies the game. He will be an excellent development project.

These are my 3 choices for our 2010 Cardinal QB corp. Who are yours???

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Matt Leinart
Jon Kitna
Draft Pick

Would love for Tyler Thigpen to be released, and to pick him up.

 

[WildBB]

Leinart
Pennington
St. Pierre
practice squad (lower pick draftee/invitee)

 

[cardsfanmd]

Here's my issue: if you think Leinart is ready and will do well, why would you use a 3rd round pick on a QB? I just don't believe in drafting for career backups. A third rounder could be a starter at many positions on this team or it could be a guy that we hope never sees the field at QB.

 

[TJ]

I do not think Pennington would be a wise pick up. Although he is one of the most accurate passers in league history, he does not possess a very big arm and has had his throwing shoulder operated on 3 times. On top of that, he'll be 34 when the season starts.

I would love the Cards to sign David Carr. Like Matty, he has a chip on his shoulder and wants to prove he was worth the #1 pick in 2002. IMO he was given a raw deal in Houston because they would not build an offensive line around him. Hence, he got sacked 60+ times a season.

With that said, here is my QB corp:

Leinart
Carr
LeFevour (3rd round)

 

[TJ]

Here's my issue: if you think Leinart is ready and will do well, why would you use a 3rd round pick on a QB? I just don't believe in drafting for career backups. A third rounder could be a starter at many positions on this team or it could be a guy that we hope never sees the field at QB.

As much as we want to anoint Matty the savior, even his supporters (myself included) still have a shadow of a doubt. If for some reason he fails, we have no one to fall on for following season. At least with a 3rd rounder, we get a quality passer signed to a 3 year contract for a reasonable price and can be groomed to be the starter just in case.

To me it's worse to put all of your eggs in one basket than to "waste" a 3rd round pick

 

[chickenhead]

I don't want to draft a QB unless Whiz is CONVINCED that he could be our starter within three years and for the foreseeable future beyond that.

I like the idea of Carr because he'll compete with Matt and one of them will end up the starter. If Matt is definitely going to be the starter, then Pennington is just about the most reliable game manager you could find--but you don't want him starting for you at this point. Kitna falls somewhere in between Carr and Pennington IMO.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Unless we have an extra second or third round pick, I certainly hope we are not using one on a QB.

 

[cardsfanmd]

As much as we want to anoint Matty the savior, even his supporters (myself included) still have a shadow of a doubt. If for some reason he fails, we have no one to fall on for following season. At least with a 3rd rounder, we get a quality passer signed to a 3 year contract for a reasonable price and can be groomed to be the starter just in case.

To me it's worse to put all of your eggs in one basket than to "waste" a 3rd round pick

How many successful 3rd round QBs do you know of? IMO we need to wait a year to find out what we have in Matty (a more than adequate QB IMO) and then act accordingly. QBs taken in the 2nd round have a 90% bust rate and I would have to assume it's closer to 100% in the 3rd. If Matt turns out to suck next year we can spend a 1st on a real QB. Ask yourself if you really think Dan Lefevour will ever be better than Leinart. I surely do not.

 

[PoolBoy]

That 3rd round draft pick should be used to get depth/starter at either DT, OLB, or CB

Get Pennington or Carr as the backup, and hope for Charlie Batch as the 3rd, or Thigpen or an UDFA.

 

[john h]

My starter of course is Matt Leinart. I think he is ready and will do well.

My choice for an experienced backup is Chad Pennington. However, he must pass a physical and really be healthy. I chose him over Chris Redman (my second choice) because of all the experience he has as a starter. He also has playoff experience with both the Jets and Dolphins. If Leinart goes down or is horrible it would be good to have an experienced starter step in. He is not a sexy choice but is solid and can lead a team.

My draft pick would be Dan LeFevour. I think we could get him in the 3rd round. I thought he was the best qb in the recent Senior Bowl. He has a nice touch, good at scrambling and shows good leadership of the offense. Mel Kiper says that he really studies the game. He will be an excellent development project.

These are my 3 choices for our 2010 Cardinal QB corp. Who are yours???

LeFevour looked very good in the North/South game. His accuracy was spot on and he is very agile and fast on his feet. He reminded me a bit of Joe Montana in that one game. I am not sure he will last until round 3. Of course, this is just one game. Does he have the arm strength and size to hold up in the NFL? I do not know. I am beginning to wonder if Tebow will even go in the first round. My understanding is he is slow and lacks good arm strength but has all the intangibles. The guy may play some position other than QB. Could he be a FB? We certainly need to sign an experienced QB who can step in if Matt falters. Not a rookie but some guy who has been there. We may want to be a running team but this team has been built to be a passing team. That is where our major strength lies. Reading between the lines I am not so sure that Warner or Whiz have that much confidence that Matt will get the job done. Warner worked out with his receivers during the off season on a regular basis. Will Matt? These are the kind of things that made Warner and his receivers standouts. Let us not forget that Matt is due to make over 12 million after this season and the Cards are not going to shell out that kind of money for just an average QB. It is do or die for Matt this year. Losing Kurt hurts more ways than just one. It will go into the thinking of FA's both coming and going if they are interested in advancing in the playoffs. In particular the receivers. We were just beginning to build a reputation of a team that can win. Watch what the Cards do about signing or not signing a backup. That will tell us what they really think of Matt.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

1) St. Pierre
2) Does it even really matter? Refer to #1.

 

[john h]

Leinart
Pennington
St. Pierre
practice squad (lower pick draftee/invitee)

I think St. Pierre is a FA this year. Some of the talking heads think that management will lock out the players at some point this year.

Washington and Dallas remain the most valuable franchises in the NFL. The Cards are #26. I think I read we ended up not spending 8 mil of our available CAP money in 2009. If 2010 remains an uncapped year then look for all sorts of strange things to happen. I think this is the year Peyton becomes a FA if not then next year. Any way you look at it he will become the highest paid player in NFL history and it will without a doubt happen in Indiana.

 

[Shane]

Nice

 

[john h]

Here's my issue: if you think Leinart is ready and will do well, why would you use a 3rd round pick on a QB? I just don't believe in drafting for career backups. A third rounder could be a starter at many positions on this team or it could be a guy that we hope never sees the field at QB.

Or it could be Joe Montana who was drafted #3.

 

[Russ Smith]

I don't get why LeFavour is such a hot commodity hasn't the last few years made it pretty clear that spread QB's don't come into the NFL ready to play?

 

[Cards Czar]

Go for John Skelton QB from Fordham or maybe take a flyer on the Ryan Perrilloux, Jax St int the 7th or as a UDFA. Yes he had some off field issues but he has since then matured as according to his coach. Rocket arm and looking good at the Texas V nation pratices.

 

[Stout]

Drafting QBs that may develop into commodities, er, potential starters, isn't a bad thing. I don't think we should draft one too high, but taking a flyer on one and burying him on the depth chart behind Leinart and, say, someone like Palko, is a good idea. After all, QBs that teams think can play are a hot commodity, and if Leinart ends up our unquestioned starter and a later-round QB pick pans out, he can be traded and can reap us good value. Just ask the Pack about getting picks for QBs.

 

[Mulli]

I think Shame Boyd deserves another chance.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Or it could be Joe Montana who was drafted #3.

Or it could be any of these guys who were taken in the 2nd or 3rd round over the last 15 years. The last three years aren't on there because they haven't had time to show what they are as of yet.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/23qb/images/92-06-qbchart.jpg

This shows about a 3% success rate according to draftcountdown.com.

 

[WarnerHOF]

I don't see why we would draft a developmental QB this year. Focus our entire draft on other positions of need and should Leinart fail miserably, the first round QB class next year should be good.

 

[BigDavis75]

Go for John Skelton QB from Fordham or maybe take a flyer on the Ryan Perrilloux, Jax St int the 7th or as a UDFA. Yes he had some off field issues but he has since then matured as according to his coach. Rocket arm and looking good at the Texas V nation pratices.

Perrilloux got kicked out of LSU. How the hell do you pull that one off?

 

[cardsfanmd]

Go for John Skelton QB from Fordham or maybe take a flyer on the Ryan Perrilloux, Jax St int the 7th or as a UDFA. Yes he had some off field issues but he has since then matured as according to his coach. Rocket arm and looking good at the Texas V nation pratices.

Didn't he get into trouble and suspended by that team as well? Besides, I don't want anyone who learned behind/backed up JaMarcus Russell.

 

[Tyler]

LEinart
Levi Brown from Troy in the 4th or so
StPierre


My only issue with Lefevour is he doesnt have a very strong arm. Levi Brown from Troy has a cannon and he is accurate. ITs always a risk when you take a small school qb tho as you dont know what the talent they played against is really like,

 

[cardsfanmd]

LEinart
Levi Brown from Troy in the 4th or so
StPierre


My only issue with Lefevour is he doesnt have a very strong arm. Levi Brown from Troy has a cannon and he is accurate. ITs always a risk when you take a small school qb tho as you dont know what the talent they played against is really like,

No way BSP would enter the season as the #3 behind a 4th round rook.