Mike LaFleur new head coach 2-1-26

[TheCardFan]

Typical Cardinals fans - we disagree because we don't like the truth.

NFL coaches and executives are "industry experts".

You can't argue with this statement:
"There’s just too much unknown with Monken, LaFleur and their respective organizations. Both are first-time, offensive-minded NFL head coaches coming from successful teams, and they’re joining two franchises that are perpetually rebuilding."

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Yesterday, with the head coach hiring cycle complete, The Athletic published an article, "NFL insiders rank head coach hires". They "asked a panel of nine coaches and executives to rank their top-five head-coaching hires of the cycle. Coaches received five points for a first-place vote, four points for a second-place vote, three points for a third-place vote, two points for a fourth-place vote and one point for a fifth-place vote. Voters are not employed by any of the 10 teams that just hired a new head coach."

Here's how it shook out:
1. John Harbaugh, New York Giants (42 points, 6 first-place votes)
2. Kevin Stefanski, Atlanta Falcons (25 points, 1 first-place vote)
3. Jesse Minter, Baltimore Ravens (24 points, 1 first-place vote)
4. Mike McCarthy, Pittsburgh Steelers (13 points)
5. Jeff Hafley, Miami Dolphins (9 points)
(tie) 6. Klint Kubiak, Las Vegas Raiders (7 points)
(tie) 6. Robert Saleh, Tennessee Titans (7 points)
8. Joe Brady, Buffalo Bills (6 points, 1 first-place vote)
(tie) 9. Mike LaFleur, Arizona Cardinals, and Todd Monken, Cleveland Browns (0 points)

"There’s just too much unknown with Monken, LaFleur and their respective organizations. Both are first-time, offensive-minded NFL head coaches coming from successful teams, and they’re joining two franchises that are perpetually rebuilding.

Without enough of a track record for the coaches and the organizations’ instability, it’s understandable why our panel took a wait-and-see approach with these hires."

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[BooksOrangePlanet]

when i listen to lafleur i hear a little bit of bruce arians for some reason - it seems lafleur uses the words "explosives" and "turnovers" a lot - explosives meaning big chunk plays/scores on offenses and turnovers on defense - not lucky break turnovers but forced turnovers through scheming with really bad intentions

i hear a young coach that believes we'll have to take chances if we want to compete within this division

the offense will be all his but lafleur's young career will also be most dependant on a now 33 year old nick rallis - a guy who named his first arizona born son after a guy who murdered guys - it was all very promising in the beginning

rallis (and gannon) was ultra aggressive with disguised blitzes knowing we couldn't get pressure with just 4 up front - that lasted all of one year - then we tried to be philly but it wasn't bend and don't break - it was bend and grab your ankles

we played not to lose on defense and we lost - a lot - common knowledge - only thing we don't know is who stopped dialing blitzes - gannon or rallis?

in all honesty im guessing rallis threw gannon under the bus - i imagine rallis was asked about all this in the interview - it would be the first thing i asked - why did you stay with the 4 man rush when it was ass?

"explosives and turnovers" - if that's the lafleur battle cry why would he ride with rallis? im also guessing our defense praised rallis in the season exit interviews

i apologize but this is my process - my only way to make sense of the decision to keep rallis around - i started off writing about lafleur's possible aggressive nature and how we're going to confuse defenses while taking shots but i smoke a lot of weed - and then whatever wants to come out just comes out apparently- it sucks

 

[kerouac9]

why did you stay with the 4 man rush when it was ass?

I feel like this is more meme than reality. I’ve looked and our blitz rate wasn’t out of line with the rest of the league.

Anyone actually have data to support this?

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

I feel like this is more meme than reality. I’ve looked and our blitz rate wasn’t out of line with the rest of the league.

Anyone actually have data to support this?

i saw what i saw - still have ptsd from it - we didn't blitz much on first and second downs when games were close - stats might say otherwise like when we were playing from behind but that's what i saw

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

it's a.i. so it's far from infallible but it goes with what i remember last season

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[RON_IN_OC]

it's a.i. so it's far from infallible but it goes with what i remember last season

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If you want to verify, just follow the links provided with the stats. I would imagine sharp football is a fairly accurate source.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

If you want to verify, just follow the links provided with the stats. I would imagine sharp football is a fairly accurate source.

i'm trying to include what i typed in for a.i. questions on screenshots this year

 

[kerouac9]

it's a.i. so it's far from infallible but it goes with what i remember last season

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Here’s the actual table, which has the same headline number and no filter for early downs:

NFL Defensive Tendencies & Stats, All 32 Teams – Sharp Football Analysis

www.sharpfootballanalysis.com

Again, it’s in the middle third of the league. Please stop posting what the confirmation bot tells you.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Here’s the actual table, which has the same headline number and no filter for early downs:

NFL Defensive Tendencies & Stats, All 32 Teams – Sharp Football Analysis

www.sharpfootballanalysis.com

Again, it’s in the middle third of the league. Please stop posting what the confirmation bot tells you.

so what i said was spot on - thx for the assist

 

[kerouac9]

so what i said was spot on - thx for the assist

That’s their overall blitz rate, and it’s in the middle of the league. What are you on about?

The plagiarism machine told you it was early downs.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

That’s their overall blitz rate, and it’s in the middle of the league. What are you on about?

The plagiarism machine told you it was early downs.

you should probably go back to sticking up for brissett bro - nobody said overall blitz rate - you're scrugglin to keep this non debate going

i clearly said on first and second downs - and while the games were close - there was no reason for me to even look it up - only reason i (half ass) did was for you

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

back to lafleur and explosives

i loved bruce arians because he'd take deep shots on short yardage situations - he'd need 3 yards for the first down - defense would tighten up and we'd throw it 30 yards

some of that was carson palmer but it somewhat continued when drew stanton (i haven't looked it up) was in there - from what i remember

arians also had david johnson in his prime - chris johnson post prime - and a decent andre ellington to make those defenses tighten up

brissett was a very slow moving target last year because we had no run game - it made our play action so bad teams didn't care if we ran the ball or not - they were calling that bluff regardless

lafleur will perhaps have more weapons than arians when you factor in tight end - but arians also had fitz - floyd - and a fast ass john brown

if lafleur is a gambling man i think he has the cards to do it - he can go all in or bluff on the flop - a true trio (love mcbride wilson) and a dangerous mind is what im here for - deep shots galore

if you want love to get 1,200 rushing yards this season you better stretch that defense out with real threats - big chunk runs come with big chunk passes - oh how i miss you bruce

needless to say brissett is no carson palmer - but like they say love is all you need - maybe love buys brissett enough time to do a decent impersonation

p.s.

any chance mhj battles wilson for the #1 spot?

 

[kerouac9]

you should probably go back to sticking up for brissett bro - nobody said overall blitz rate - you're scrugglin to keep this non debate going

i clearly said on first and second downs - and while the games were close - there was no reason for me to even look it up - only reason i (half ass) did was for you

Buddy ready your screen shot all the way to the end of the first sentence. The website it’s plagiarized says all downs. The bot just gave you the answer you wanted with fake citations to back it up.

And you’re still dug in defending the data you told us to be careful about!

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Buddy ready your screen shot all the way to the end of the first sentence. The website it’s plagiarized says all downs. The bot just gave you the answer you wanted with fake citations to back it up.

And you’re still dug in defending the data you told us to be careful about!

i never looked anything up until you asked - i was free balling when i wrote the whole thing - i didn't look it up until i posted the screenshot - that's when i looked it up and i made sure to leave the question i asked a.i. included in the screenshot - no plagiarism lol - idk why you're on that trip now - probably because we didn't blitz on first and second down

 

[SunsTzu]

i never looked anything up until you asked - i was free balling when i wrote the whole thing - i didn't look it up until i posted the screenshot - that's when i looked it up and i made sure to leave the question i asked a.i. included in the screenshot - no plagiarism lol - idk why you're on that trip now - probably because we didn't blitz on first and second down

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[BooksOrangePlanet]

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you don't have to be from k-pax to know we didn't blitz on first and second down lol how could anyone forget - you don't need a.i. either - we all remember dying a little inside on every drive - we didn't start playing defense until 3rd down - by then it was often 3rd and short - we didn't even get to 3rd down a lot - teams would just hit 7- 10 yard gains consistently until they scored - do you think i'm relying on a.i. to convey all this right now - or do you think i just watched the games - geez yall must be bored

 

[kerouac9]

you don't have to be from k-pax to know we didn't blitz on first and second down lol how could anyone forget - you don't need a.i. either - we all remember dying a little inside on every drive - we didn't start playing defense until 3rd down - by then it was often 3rd and short - we didn't even get to 3rd down a lot - teams would just hit 7- 10 yard gains consistently until they scored - do you think i'm relying on a.i. to convey all this right now - or do you think i just watched the games - geez yall must be bored

Yes who needs data when you have the memory of a chronic pot smoker?

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Yes who needs data when you have the memory of a chronic pot smoker?

rare form today k9

 

[Card'em]

Yes who needs data when you have the memory of a chronic pot smoker?

Sounds like a personal attack to me...moderator???

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Sounds like a personal attack to me...moderator???

no need for mods i'm proud of being a pot smoker and i only smoke the chronic (i eat it too) - i might get higher than the 20th of july but even i can count how many people are rushing the quarterback -

 

[Shane]

Yes who needs data when you have the memory of a chronic pot smoker?

No need to make things personal

 

[some dumb guy]

Yes who needs data when you have the memory of a chronic pot smoker?

Ooh, easy there K9...it wasn't all that long ago you were in AZFN lockup....and word on the street was your nick was honeybuns...hope it doesn't change to sticky buns LOL
Now that's funny, I don't care who ya are, that's funny right there

 

[Goldfield]

There's always that 1 a-hole who hates a move everyone else loves, right? Guess today that's me.

Gotta feel good for the people who really wanted Mike LaFleur. I just don’t see it.

He didn’t call plays with the Rams, and the last time he did call plays was with the Jets and that offense was brutal. He was only the Rams’ OC for two years, you don’t just “download McVay’s brain” in that time. Before that, he spent four years in San Francisco as the “passing game coordinator,” and the Niners went 29–35 during that stretch(Did make it to 1 Superbowl in that timeframe). I think people see the names “LaFleur” and “Rams” and get excited.

To me this feels like Bidwill chasing the next McVay again. I don’t think this is it. I will have a very open mind about this, and hope he can change my opinion. Welcome to AZ coach.

Everyone is chasing the next McVay…

 

[oaken1]

it's a.i. so it's far from infallible but it goes with what i remember last season

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Oh suuuuure B.oP...
But how many followers does that AI even have really??....Hunh?