Michael Wilson: Players Who Could Make a Leap in 2024

[WakeForestCard]

Uh, celebrating what? 1000 yards at this point is not a big accomplishment - that's averaging less than 60 yards a game! It would have been way more odd if they actually did celebrate it mid game.

Only 20 people above 1k receiving yards this year. It’s not a crazy threshold but it’s still pretty good.

 

[kerouac9]

Next year yes. 23 million likely

His contract runs out next year; he’s eligible to extend in mid-March.

 

[kerouac9]

I’ve always thought 1000 was weird even in 16 games since 63 yards a game is the bench mark. I’ve always thought the mark of greatness as a receiver and a running back should be 1200. But alas, the world we live in most everybody still seems to think 1000 is the mark.

Yes greatness that number is pretty good. But there’s a level between greatness and acceptable starter. That’s probably the 1000 yard benchmark. Like he’s really good but not elite.

If you extend him this offseason the guarantee is probably $50 million on a four-year extension. Out-year salaries $25 million or so. Drake London and Chris Olave are the other WRs likely to get a second contract this offseason.

Garrett Wilson got a four-year extension worth $130 million and $38 million guaranteed last offseason.

 

[Shane]

Yes greatness that number is pretty good. But there’s a level between greatness and acceptable starter. That’s probably the 1000 yard benchmark. Like he’s really good but not elite.

If you extend him this offseason the guarantee is probably $50 million on a four-year extension. Out-year salaries $25 million or so. Drake London and Chris Olave are the other WRs likely to get a second contract this offseason.

Garrett Wilson got a four-year extension worth $130 million and $38 million guaranteed last offseason.

I’m not sure if I was a GM I would re sign Olave. He has a really bad concussion history almost as bad as TUA. Yet he had an amazing year. Then this last week they found a blood clot in his heart. Scary stuff. He’s so good though.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Yes greatness that number is pretty good. But there’s a level between greatness and acceptable starter. That’s probably the 1000 yard benchmark. Like he’s really good but not elite.

If you extend him this offseason the guarantee is probably $50 million on a four-year extension. Out-year salaries $25 million or so. Drake London and Chris Olave are the other WRs likely to get a second contract this offseason.

Garrett Wilson got a four-year extension worth $130 million and $38 million guaranteed last offseason.

wilson could play out his contract and test the market

 

[WakeForestCard]

wilson could play out his contract and test the market

Franchise tag complicates that scenario for him.

 

[kerouac9]

wilson could play out his contract and test the market

He could but he’s made $3.8 million in three seasons and is scheduled to make $1.5 million in 2026. Maybe he balls out again with a new system, new QB, and healthy MHJ. Then he’ll earn an even bigger deal.

But maybe he gets injured again in week 3.

 

[football karma]

after Theo Mackie grilled Monti publicly for his poor drafts ---- you can bet Monti is going to do everything he can to keep Mike Willy this offseason

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Only 20 people above 1k receiving yards this year. It’s not a crazy threshold but it’s still pretty good.

Yeah, I think it's the sign of a pretty good receiver, which at this point Wilson is. He's probably somewhere in the 25-50 range of WR's. 20-25M per year? It's an awful lot to pay for a guy who's only really performed well without Harrison and for half of a season.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Yeah, I think it's the sign of a pretty good receiver, which at this point Wilson is. He's probably somewhere in the 25-50 range of WR's. 20-25M per year? It's an awful lot to pay for a guy who's only really performed well without Harrison and for half of a season.

You want to make the same Zach Allen mistake here? Wilson was very promising as a rookie until Kyler got back and then disappeared off the face of the Earth… until Kyler disappeared this season and then he continued his ascension at a ridiculous rate in the last ten games of the year.

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

 

[TheCardFan]

Loved Wilson coming out of college but dude has had 3 100 yard games in 46 games.

34 games out of 46, he has been a non-factor (less than 58 yards).

Let's see some consistency before we crown his ass

 

[kerouac9]

Yeah, I think it's the sign of a pretty good receiver, which at this point Wilson is. He's probably somewhere in the 25-50 range of WR's. 20-25M per year? It's an awful lot to pay for a guy who's only really performed well without Harrison and for half of a season.

Take a look around OTC and you’ll find out that’s the going rate for a good WR on a second contract.

 

[kerouac9]

Loved Wilson coming out of college but dude has had 3 100 yard games in 46 games.

34 games out of 46, he has been a non-factor (less than 58 yards).

Let's see some consistency before we crown his ass

You have to discount early lack of production for not vibing with Kyler/Petzing erasing him from the game plan. I don’t see much that makes me think his game is unsustainable but also this isn’t a Trey McBride situation where you have to extend him before training camp.

 

[daves]

You want to make the same Zach Allen mistake here? Wilson was very promising as a rookie until Kyler got back and then disappeared off the face of the Earth… until Kyler disappeared this season and then he continued his ascension at a ridiculous rate in the last ten games of the year.

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

I'd forgotten about how Murray squashed Wilson's rookie season!

8 with Dobbs & Tune: 33 tgts, 25 rec, 401 yds (50.1 ypg, 16.0 ypc, 852 yds/17 game pace), 2 TDs, 75.8 catch %.
5 games with Murray: 25 tgts, 13 rec, 164 yds (32.8 ypg, 12.6 ypc, 558 yds/17 game pace), 1 TD, 52.0 catch %.

... And how Murray squashed Wilson's entire career by not being able to progress past his first read (and Petzing deserves some blame for not having Wilson as the first read often enough):
20 games w/o Murray: 141 tgts, 95 rec, 1355 yds (67.8 ypg, 14.3 ypc, 1152 yds/17 game pace), 8 TDs, 67.4 catch %.
26 games with Murray: 114 tgts, 68 rec, 764 yds (29.4 ypg, 11.2 ypc, 500 yds/17 game pace), 6 TDs, 59.6 catch %.

Oof!

 

[ASUCHRIS]

You want to make the same Zach Allen mistake here? Wilson was very promising as a rookie until Kyler got back and then disappeared off the face of the Earth… until Kyler disappeared this season and then he continued his ascension at a ridiculous rate in the last ten games of the year.

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

No, I don't. (I wanted us to retain Allen) There are reasons for skepticism, but I'd be ok paying him 20-25m.

 

[Cheesebeef]

No, I don't. (I wanted us to retain Allen) There are reasons for skepticism, but I'd be ok paying him 20-25m.

I know you wanted to retain Allen. That’s why I was surprised to see what seemed like you hedging hard against giving Wilson 20-25 million.

I think Kyler and Petz really held this kid back. He flashed early in his career and then exploded once finally given a chance to shine while still not being the number one option behind the new Larry Centers.

 

[WakeForestCard]

I'd forgotten about how Murray squashed Wilson's rookie season!

8 with Dobbs & Tune: 33 tgts, 25 rec, 401 yds (50.1 ypg, 16.0 ypc, 852 yds/17 game pace), 2 TDs, 75.8 catch %.
5 games with Murray: 25 tgts, 13 rec, 164 yds (32.8 ypg, 12.6 ypc, 558 yds/17 game pace), 1 TD, 52.0 catch %.

... And how Murray squashed Wilson's entire career by not being able to progress past his first read (and Petzing deserves some blame for not having Wilson as the first read often enough):
20 games w/o Murray: 141 tgts, 95 rec, 1355 yds (67.8 ypg, 14.3 ypc, 1152 yds/17 game pace), 8 TDs, 67.4 catch %.
26 games with Murray: 114 tgts, 68 rec, 764 yds (29.4 ypg, 11.2 ypc, 500 yds/17 game pace), 6 TDs, 59.6 catch %.

Oof!

Wow I knew the numbers with and without Kyler were skewed but this is wild.

 

[TheCardFan]

Wow I knew the numbers with and without Kyler were skewed but this is wild.

Remember when Christian Kirk wanted to get away from Kyler - except for 1 year, he got worse (but he got PAID).

 

[cardsfanmd]

not crazy at all. But Harrison at times doesn't even look like he knows how to play the position (ie. jumping for balls he has no business jumping for and then dropping them). he's a mystery, wrapped in a riddle, within a conundrum.

Even more reason to reserve judgement being that as incompetent as he may have looked at times, he still put up 400 more yards in the same time span as Wilson who has begun to look like a GAM.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Yeah, I think it's the sign of a pretty good receiver, which at this point Wilson is. He's probably somewhere in the 25-50 range of WR's. 20-25M per year? It's an awful lot to pay for a guy who's only really performed well without Harrison and for half of a season.

I don't know, he played better than that later in the year, and that's with McBride taking a lot of targets too.

 

[WakeForestCard]

Remember when Christian Kirk wanted to get away from Kyler - except for 1 year, he got worse (but he got PAID).

Did he want to get away from Kyler? I never recall that.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

d-hop 100% wanted out because of kyler

 

[HairZach]

Uh, celebrating what? 1000 yards at this point is not a big accomplishment - that's averaging less than 60 yards a game! It would have been way more odd if they actually did celebrate it mid game.

Receiving yards are extremely down league wide, 1000 is a much bigger deal than it was 2 years ago. Michael Wilson had the 18th most receiving yards in the league.

In 2023 Wilson's stats would have made him the WR27

This performance coming from a 3rd round pick is also notable. A WR of Marv pedigree you would expect 1,200+

 

[TheCardFan]

Did he want to get away from Kyler? I never recall that.

The tweet came from his family but basically yes.

 

[cardsfanmd]

d-hop 100% wanted out because of kyler

BS. Gannon and MO wanted him out because he didn’t practice and would not embrace the culture they were trying to instill. Why are you doing the Mitch and just making things off then trying to pass them off as factual. Not cool.