Let’s Take a Moment to Overreact to Kyler’s IG Page

[Shane]

Well on ESPN Stephen a Smith and Michael Irvin just spent about 8 full minutes it seemed debating who looks worse Kyler or the Cards…. Couldn’t hear what was said but it was a spirited deabt(at the gym) no subtitles. Anybody watch it? This is lovely all the national attention about it. Finally we getting some coverage. SMH

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Jesus, if that's true you trade him for the biggest haul you can get, as quickly as possible. I'm swiftly coming to this conclusion anyway. We knew he had an attitude problem; that wasn't in doubt to any but the blind KM supporters. Now, though...it's worse than any of us could have thought.

Right? Give me a less-talented guy who eats, drinks, and sleeps football over a guy who seems disinterested in it much of the time. I seriously think this is why we heard early on that there was a locker room issue between Fitz and Murray. Fitz probably saw right away that Murray wasn't the type to put in extra time or any time to bond with teammates, etc.

 

[Russ Smith]

Jesus, if that's true you trade him for the biggest haul you can get, as quickly as possible. I'm swiftly coming to this conclusion anyway. We knew he had an attitude problem; that wasn't in doubt to any but the blind KM supporters. Now, though...it's worse than any of us could have thought.

Honestly if that's true I have 2 questions, is that normal do other players listen to music or talk to family at halftime, i assume no. If the answer to 1 is no they don't. Question 2 is how quickly can you fire Kliff? 3 years and his starting QB is doing this at halftime when they should be going over the 2nd half gameplan? You can't as a coach allow that, bad enough that Murray apparently is doing it, but a coach allowing it that's just awful.

I googled Chuck Harris I had no idea who he was, he has several articles on Sportswire this year speculating about Kyler being a headcase so this is not unusual for him, but he's saying he heard it on the radio so someone else said it. But then you check his bio and it says he is a source for 98.7 where he says he heard it so that's a bit odd?

 

[DVontel]

Steve Keim is gonna win this battle.

 

[BritCard]

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This would be terrible except I don't quite believe it.

I don't know who said it on 98.7 but I find this one tough to believe. I can't see even Kliff letting that one slide and if he does well it's on Kliff.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

This would be terrible except I don't quite believe it.

I don't know who said it on 98.7 but I find this one tough to believe. I can't see even Kliff letting that one slide and if he does well it's on Kliff.

All of the 98.7 FM shows are now also available as daily podcasts, so going back and finding something that was said on a show is now possible.

 

[Chopper0080]

Steve Keim is gonna win this battle.

I would just about kill for Rick Spielman and Sean Payton right now.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

This is awesome…now we get to hear all these outlandish reports about KM being a baby back b*tch, whether true or not, and now this forces him to nut up or shut up. Best thing that could’ve happened to him.

 

[PJ1]

Both. They're blitzing and stunting, get the ball out

Honestly if that's true I have 2 questions, is that normal do other players listen to music or talk to family at halftime, i assume no. If the answer to 1 is no they don't. Question 2 is how quickly can you fire Kliff? 3 years and his starting QB is doing this at halftime when they should be going over the 2nd half gameplan? You can't as a coach allow that, bad enough that Murray apparently is doing it, but a coach allowing it that's just awful.

I googled Chuck Harris I had no idea who he was, he has several articles on Sportswire this year speculating about Kyler being a headcase so this is not unusual for him, but he's saying he heard it on the radio so someone else said it. But then you check his bio and it says he is a source for 98.7 where he says he heard it so that's a bit odd?

I don’t know. Doesn’t KK give them cell phone breaks at practice? So fire KK and bring in a tougher coach in the BA mold. Then we will see KM stripping down and doing jumping jacks on his way out of the stadium after BA freaks out at him.

 

[BritCard]

All of the 98.7 FM shows are now also available as daily podcasts, so going back and finding something that was said on a show is now possible.

Generally I have little trust for anything that comes through 98.7 but this seems like a stretch even for them.

Could I see it maybe happening one time in a game we were winning easily? Possibly.

Consistently happening even in games we are down and need to rally? I really can't see it.

A lot of these stories I do believe as they confirm what we have already seen and suspected. This one is too much.

 

[SoonerLou]

tHe BeNgAlS o-LiNe iS bEtTeR tHaN oUrS

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Wait so PFF is relevant now? So their pass rush grades amongst starters being equal to ours is relevant as well?

 

[ajcardfan]

And an NFL QB doesn't get to be that whatever his generation is. This is a really, really weak sauce excuse for his attitude. Nobody's buying it.

I didn't excuse it. I don't excuse it with my kids. You don't have to be so aggressive with your assumptions in every response.

 

[BritCard]

Wait so PFF is relevant now? So their pass rush grades amongst starters being equal to ours is relevant as well?

Shall I do ESPN pass rush win rate instead? Would that make you feel better? Because that's also really bad.

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[SoonerLou]

I don’t know. Doesn’t KK give them cell phone breaks at practice? So fire KK and bring in a tougher coach in the BA mold. Then we will see KM stripping down and doing jumping jacks on his way out of the stadium after BA freaks out at him.

Kliff couldnt keep DHOP from running on the field. Its possible he has no control over players in the locker room as well.

 

[SoonerLou]

Shall I do ESPN pass rush win rate instead? Would that make you feel better? Because that's also really bad.

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And yet they ran the ball well with Mixon unlike us the two previous games against the Rams (with our RBs). Too busy trying to show off Burrow. Cost him.

 

[Mainstreet]

Right? Give me a less-talented guy who eats, drinks, and sleeps football over a guy who seems disinterested in it much of the time. I seriously think this is why we heard early on that there was a locker room issue between Fitz and Murray. Fitz probably saw right away that Murray wasn't the type to put in extra time or any time to bond with teammates, etc.

A team has to have a culture committed to winning starting with the GM, coaches and players. It requires the right people to create this culture. This is where it begins.

If the Cardinals have that leadership I'm not seeing it in the right positions.

 

[TRW]

The sad part about all of this is that it could be disputed by a "this is all b.s." quote from the Cards and Murray. The Cardinals put out a "we love our QB" post that is pretty much par for the course in these situations. As has been mentioned, there is a lot of smoke for there being no fire somewhere.

The silence speaks volumes, especially since this is now national media fodder. It hurts Murray's value if they try to trade him and hurts the Cardinals already bad reputation. It seems this organization just can't keep from shooting themselves in the foot and then shooting the other foot to see if they missed the first time.

 

[SoonerLou]

Steve Keim is gonna win this battle.

He's already won.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Here's my questions on the Mort report. Kyler scrubs social media, a few days later the Cards site does the same thing to "poke fun" at Murray. And now we're being told the Cards are furious with Murray's lack of maturity and leadership?

So the organization that wants their QB to be mature, immaturely trolled him on social media? Did someone on the website go rogue, is the website completely disconnected from the team, or are the Cards really that stupid that while thinking they need a more mature QB decided a good way to handle that would be to poke fun at him on social media?

The only thing that makes sense to me is maybe the Cards did that to give Kyler an out? Ok you did yours, we did ours now we can say this was just a thing that has nothing to do with contracts or issues and let's start over, and then a player looking just like AJ Green messed it all up by leaking a story to ESPN?

Let's be specific...He did not scrub his social media...He scrubbed his Instagram and he removed more than just the Cardinals. His TikTok (probably more important than IG these days and many influencers are leaving IG) and Twitter still have Cards posts.

About the Cards accounts...There is absolutely no way the Cardinals social media team would be trolling Kyler, if there were serious problems between he and the franchise. Same goes for Watt's trolling of him. Even Nuk didn't think it was a big deal. When Double A Ron was reported to have a fracture with the Packers, did any of his teammates speak up and say it wasn't true? I don't recall it...and the Packers PR teams absolutely never tried to troll him on social media.

Someone mentioned that so far, only Mike B and Kyler have been known to have been angry at how the season ended...maybe the 2 of them are actually on the same page.

I'm not saying KM doesn't need to add more leadership or grow up more, but him deleting stuff from IG is hardly throwing a tantrum, like some would have you believe.

Regarding Mortenson...I really think sometimes he's grasping at straws to try and stay relevant. His best reporting days are far behind him.

Also, I'm not so sure AJ Green is the leak. I don't recall KM ever really throwing him under the bus for his drops and misses...Maybe I didn't see it.

 

[BritCard]

The sad part about all of this is that it could be disputed by a "this is all b.s." quote from the Cards and Murray. The Cardinals put out a "we love our QB" post that is pretty much par for the course in these situations. As has been mentioned, there is a lot of smoke for there being no fire somewhere.

The silence speaks volumes, especially since this is now national media fodder. It hurts Murray's value if they try to trade him and hurts the Cardinals already bad reputation. It seems this organization just can't keep from shooting themselves in the foot and then shooting the other foot to see if they missed the first time.

It's not BS though. I think this has been coming down the tracks. There must have been conversations with him in house that haven't changed anything.

I don't think this is coming from inside the team. It's most likely from someone like AJ Green, or maybe even Kirk, but I don't think the Card's mind it coming out. It gives them a chance to publicly stand by Kyler while hoping this is the kick in the pants he needs.

 

[BritCard]

Let's be specific...He did not scrub his social media...He scrubbed his Instagram and he removed more than just the Cardinals. His TikTok (probably more important than IG these days and many influencers are leaving IG) and Twitter still have Cards posts.

About the Cards accounts...There is absolutely no way the Cardinals social media team would be trolling Kyler, if there were serious problems between he and the franchise. Same goes for Watt's trolling of him. Even Nuk didn't think it was a big deal. When Double A Ron was reported to have a fracture with the Packers, did any of his teammates speak up and say it wasn't true? I don't recall it...and the Packers PR teams absolutely never tried to troll him on social media.

Someone mentioned that so far, only Mike B and Kyler have been known to have been angry at how the season ended...maybe the 2 of them are actually on the same page.

I'm not saying KM doesn't need to add more leadership or grow up more, but him deleting stuff from IG is hardly throwing a tantrum, like some would have you believe.

Regarding Mortenson...I really think sometimes he's grasping at straws to try and stay relevant. His best reporting days are far behind him.

Also, I'm not so sure AJ Green is the leak. I don't recall KM ever really throwing him under the bus for his drops and misses...Maybe I didn't see it.

I wouldn't read anything into everything being scrubbed. That's more likely a result of Kyler just choosing everything but those 2 recent pics rather than spending an hour to go through 100's of pics choosing which to keep and which to not.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Complete organizational failure. Bidwill has no idea what he's doing, Keim surrounds a great young QB on a rookie contract with a sub par roster, and we pair Kyler with Coach Bro, a guy who clearly won't challenge Kyler.

If Kyler fails here, it will be as much on the organization as it is Kyler.

 

[TRW]

It's not BS though. I think this has been coming down the tracks. There must have been conversations with him in house that haven't changed anything.

I don't think this is coming from inside the team. It's most likely from someone like AJ Green, or maybe even Kirk, but I don't think the Card's mind it coming out. It gives them a chance to publicly stand by Kyler while hoping this is the kick in the pants he needs.

I know it's not BS. It sure feels like something that's been brewing a while, maybe even since last season's debacle. It's just a cluster all around.

 

[BritCard]

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[RON_IN_OC]

I wouldn't read anything into everything being scrubbed. That's more likely a result of Kyler just choosing everything but those 2 recent pics rather than spending an hour to go through 100's of pics choosing which to keep and which to not.

Exactly. A lot of the youngers on IG (my teens included) only keep 2 actual posts on their accounts. They live in IG Stories and REELS (which Kyler left up for the world to see, but nobody in the news media seems to pay attention to that).