Kyler Murray Contract Extended

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

That he’s not an enforcer and also doesn’t have an enforcer on his staff. Not all coaches are capable of enforcing discipline, but they usually recognize that and put others in place to handle it.

I think it says more than that. I think it also means he’s not a motivator. And he’s poor at imparting the importance of certain aspects of being a pro.

 

[wa52lz]

The "Independent Study Clause" was added by Michael Bidwill. I think it was a response to the Manifesto that Erik Burkhardt sent out which had this statement in Italics in it:



That was clearly a shot at the organization from Burkhardt suggesting that Michael Bidwill was not committed to winning like Kyler Murray is. So Michael shot back at Burkhardt with the "Independent Study Clause".

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Other then Gambo do we have anything else saying it was Bidwill's idea? Question for the group, not just MadCard

 

[Mainstreet]

The four hours of weekly study clause being in the contract is interesting.

Since it's almost unenforceable I've come to wonder if it's something Kyler wanted in the contract for motivation.

 

[kerouac9]

The four hours of weekly study clause being in the contract is interesting.

Since it's almost unenforceable I've come to wonder if it's something Kyler wanted in the contract for motivation.

This is the hilarious back-breaking spinning that I love coming here for. OMG.

 

[Mainstreet]

This is the hilarious back-breaking spinning that I love coming here for. OMG.

I've known people who want more oversight so laugh all you want.

Everyone is different.

 

[Shane]

Yea

The four hours of weekly study clause being in the contract is interesting.

Since it's almost unenforceable I've come to wonder if it's something Kyler wanted in the contract for motivation.

yea Kyler requested it mmmhmm sure… wow….. people will do anything in here not to tarnish that kid even when it’s clearly deserved.

 

[TJ]

The four hours of weekly study clause being in the contract is interesting.

Since it's almost unenforceable I've come to wonder if it's something Kyler wanted in the contract for motivation.

Reports are that clause came from Mikey

 

[TJ]

FTR - Marcus Mariotta had a "no surfing" clause in his initial contract because he was not committed to giving up surfing. This is nothing new and teams are cognizent of player's reluctance to be fully committed.

 

[kerouac9]

Kyler Murray's Contract Extension Raises More Questions Than It Answers | Defector

Typically, when an NFL insider tweets out a player’s contract details, it’s meaningless fluff—a bunch numbers inflated by bonuses that the player will never reach. But when NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport tweeted out a screenshot of a clause in Kyler Murray’s new contract extension, I had to re-read...

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The comments tho... :dead:

 

[cardpa]

Based on everything that has been reported and has occurred in the last six months and putting it all together, indications are this is not going to end well.

 

[Shane]

Kyler Murray's Contract Extension Raises More Questions Than It Answers | Defector

Typically, when an NFL insider tweets out a player’s contract details, it’s meaningless fluff—a bunch numbers inflated by bonuses that the player will never reach. But when NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport tweeted out a screenshot of a clause in Kyler Murray’s new contract extension, I had to re-read...

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The comments tho... :dead:

Lol yup

 

[Chopper0080]

It wasn’t. Evidently, its on the NFL portal and if you register it can be downloaded. The guys on the radio were talking about it. It wasn’t leaked.

True. Contract language is public. What happens is that agents or the team will tip reporters that there is unique verbiage in the contract. Can’t say that this occurred here but if it did it benefits the Cardinals more than Kyler.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yea

yea Kyler requested it mmmhmm sure… wow….. people will do anything in here not to tarnish that kid even when it’s clearly deserved.

Reports are that clause came from Mikey

This is about a contract... period.

Walk in backwards in your mind. Why would you want an unenforceable clause in a contract. The player and agent would have to willingly agree to it. They had to know how it looked. If the clause were left out, it shouldn't have been a deal breaker. I've know people who want the extra motivation.

I'm only saying this is a possibility.

Yes, I heard it came from Mike Bidwill.

 

[Shane]

This is about a contract... period.

Walk in backwards in your mind. Why would you want an unenforceable clause in a contract. The player and agent would have to willingly agree to it. They had to know how it looked. If the clause were left out, it shouldn't have been a deal breaker. I've know people who want the extra motivation.

I'm only saying this is a possibility.

Yes, I heard it came from Mike Bidwill.

It isn’t unenforceable and anyone saying such is just plain wrong.

 

[slanidrac16]

I've known people who want more oversight so laugh all you want.

Everyone is different.

How many of the people you know wanting more oversight are making $250m. Ridiculous.

 

[Mainstreet]

FTR - Marcus Mariotta had a "no surfing" clause in his initial contract because he was not committed to giving up surfing. This is nothing new and teams are cognizent of player's reluctance to be fully committed.

So this served as extra motivation or a deterrent.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Going into Walter land here with the conjecture.

But if you marry the two biggest off field concerns together is there a scenario where Rodney Hudson was considering not coming back because he felt Kyler wasn't doing the work? And that he announced last week that he would return once he was told that this clause had been inserted in his new deal?

It always felt weird that Hudson took so long to make a decision and then the decision came just as Kyler's deal was concluding.

For someone that argued against the conjecture of potential retirement (a reasonable thought) this is like bat#%€£ crazy.

 

[Mainstreet]

It isn’t unenforceable and anyone saying such is just plain wrong.

It would be very hard to enforce unless a player blatantly disregarded his duties.

If that's the case, the Cardinals front office shouldn't have given him the extension.

 

[Chopper0080]

What's this mandatory 4 hours of study say about Kilff?

That when Fitz said he thought the Cardinals gave too much to Kyler too fast and didn’t make him earn it is true. Hard to start out lax and then try to buckle down. Also says Kyler and him don’t agree 100% on what he needs to do.

 

[Mainstreet]

How many of the people you know wanting more oversight are making $250m. Ridiculous.

I can't speak to those making millions but I have known people who like the additional oversight.

 

[TRW]

It isn’t unenforceable and anyone saying such is just plain wrong.

If it was unenforceable, the NFLPA and the NFL would find it punitive and unenforceable and make them amend the contract to remove it I would think.

 

[Chopper0080]

Oh no. I totally agree with the clause for what it is. I'm all for ensuring that Murray actually puts in the time preparing for games. I do believe that is the one thing holding Kyler back from truly being great.

In fact I'm thinking about making my son sign a clause like it except for the college tuition that I'm going to help him with. He needs to put in time or he doesn't get a dime for me.

I just think that this was also a shot back at Burkhardt and the antics he pulled this offseason. Everyone knew that the contract becomes public knowledge once submitted.

I 100% think the Cardinals were put off by the comments by Kyler’s agent. The struggles are a shared outcome.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Lol yup

This really is an all-time idiotic statement from a guy who’s literally never won a big game/playoff game in his entire college and pro career.

 

[kerouac9]

The Cards couldn't go five days between the announcement of the extension and stepping on a rake in public. Has to be a record-short honeymoon phase.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Other then Gambo do we have anything else saying it was Bidwill's idea? Question for the group, not just MadCard

Nothing concrete but that is the overall opinion that it was ownership driven.