Korey Cunningham traded to Pats for 6th Rounder

[AZ Native]

They gave us Chandler Jones for Cooper and a second. Cooper didn't even last a year with them and he was a former high first rounder.

They traded him mostly to keep from paying him the $85.5 million that we did. They went to 3 Super Bowls and won 2 of them since then and we went 3-13 last year. Apparently they know what they are doing.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

i don't know why people always assume this.

Because we are applying rational decision making to a situation?

 

[MadCardDisease]

They traded him mostly to keep from paying him the $85.5 million that we did. They went to 3 Super Bowls and won 2 of them since then and we went 3-13 last year. Apparently they know what they are doing.

You're right. Trading Chandler Jones to the Cardinals for a bunch of trash sent the Patriots to the Super Bowl three more times. Jones and the $15M he made last year are a big reason the Cardinals went 3-13.

 

[AZ Native]

No, it’s by not paying Jones a ton of money they were able to get/keep other players.

Paying Jones $15 mil did reduce our ability to get/keep other players. Jones has been great, but we have not been.

Most people hate the Pats but what they have done in the salary cap era is unprecedented.

 

[Chopper0080]

No shock that the Pats would trade a 6th rounder for someone who is cheap and already has one year of a NFL weight program under their belt. If college guys now take more time to develop, it is really smart to trade late round picks for the players you liked a year or two ago.

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[Chopper0080]

Also, the Cardinals trading away one of the few linemen they have that has a history of staying healthy is pretty funny.

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[Garthshort]

Why do we think our players are terrible until we trade them. And all of a sudden.................. .

 

[Proximo]

No shock that the Pats would trade a 6th rounder for someone who is cheap and already has one year of a NFL weight program under their belt. If college guys now take more time to develop, it is really smart to trade late round picks for the players you liked a year or two ago.

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Yes, I agree. Just look at our history of 6th round picks and how many have worked out. The answer is nearly ZERO. Keysean Johnson may the first truly impactful 6th rounder in many years.

 

[Solar7]

You're right. Trading Chandler Jones to the Cardinals for a bunch of trash sent the Patriots to the Super Bowl three more times. Jones and the $15M he made last year are a big reason the Cardinals went 3-13.

Joe Thuney is their starting LG, part of the trade that brought Chandler Jones to the desert. They got a starter and cap room for the sacrifice of one year of a really good player.

It's a win-win for both, mostly, but the Pats have found success in letting go of amazing players while balancing their costs, by drafting well and developing players. We spent all of that money on Chandler Jones, and now our backs are up against the wall as the worst team in the league with $30 million in dead cap.

 

[BigRedRage]

Joe Thuney is their starting LG, part of the trade that brought Chandler Jones to the desert. They got a starter and cap room for the sacrifice of one year of a really good player.

It's a win-win for both, mostly, but the Pats have found success in letting go of amazing players while balancing their costs, by drafting well and developing players. We spent all of that money on Chandler Jones, and now our backs are up against the wall as the worst team in the league with $30 million in dead cap.

dont think that has much to do with Chandler jones contract TBH.

The pats also have a QB that plays for peanuts.

 

[MadCardDisease]

We spent all of that money on Chandler Jones, and now our backs are up against the wall as the worst team in the league with $30 million in dead cap.

How can you equate signing Chandler Jones and $30M in dead cap space? The $35M in dead cap space was for the huge misses in Free Agency that Keim had. Jones has been one of Keims few bright spots.

 

[Solar7]

dont think that has much to do with Chandler jones contract TBH.

The pats also have a QB that plays for peanuts.

How can you equate signing Chandler Jones and $30M in dead cap space? The $35M in dead cap space was for the huge misses in Free Agency that Keim had. Jones has been one of Keims few bright spots.

I am extraordinarily happy we have Jones, and made the move for him. But the Pats have made it a consistent priority not to overspend, and to find solid players in the draft, or at a discount. They rarely pay heavily.

Not paying Chandler Jones allowed them to field a team of decent players at reasonable prices, with very little overspending.

There's not a true connection with the dead cap, but would this team be better with a solid set of players across the board, compared to one great player and the garbage we're dealing with now at some positions?

Maybe, maybe not, but like @AZ Native said, apparently they know what they're doing.

 

[slanidrac16]

No, it’s by not paying Jones a ton of money they were able to get/keep other players.

Paying Jones $15 mil did reduce our ability to get/keep other players. Jones has been great, but we have not been.

Most people hate the Pats but what they have done in the salary cap era is unprecedented.

I would say a bigger problem was paying Bradford. If we had his 20 mil we could do a lot more.

 

[AZ Native]

I would say a bigger problem was paying Bradford. If we had his 20 mil we could do a lot more.

Yep. With us it’s never just one thing.

 

[slanidrac16]

Joe Thuney is their starting LG, part of the trade that brought Chandler Jones to the desert. They got a starter and cap room for the sacrifice of one year of a really good player.

It's a win-win for both, mostly, but the Pats have found success in letting go of amazing players while balancing their costs, by drafting well and developing players. We spent all of that money on Chandler Jones, and now our backs are up against the wall as the worst team in the league with $30 million in dead cap.

Chandler has earn his paycheck. Now if we could have the Bradford money back.....

 

[Krangodnzr]

Also, the Cardinals trading away one of the few linemen they have that has a history of staying healthy is pretty funny.

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Cunningham had a season ending injury last year.

 

[Krangodnzr]

dont think that has much to do with Chandler jones contract TBH.

The pats also have a QB that plays for peanuts.

Yep Tom Brady. Plays for $15 million less than he probably could get. That means two Chandler Jones not paid.

That's how they can afford an expensive ILB.

 

[Solar7]

Yep Tom Brady. Plays for $15 million less than he probably could get. That means two Chandler Jones not paid.

That's how they can afford an expensive ILB.

Brady's contract aside, New England rarely doles out large deals anyways. I think that was the overall point. As a whole, they made a fine decision moving Chandler Jones. They ended up with a starter on the OL, and financial flexibility.

If anything, Tom Brady's contract could have been used as a reason that they could manage to keep Jones, but they set their priorities elsewhere, and have two championships since the decision.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Brady's contract aside, New England rarely doles out large deals anyways. I think that was the overall point. As a whole, they made a fine decision moving Chandler Jones. They ended up with a starter on the OL, and financial flexibility.

If anything, Tom Brady's contract could have been used as a reason that they could manage to keep Jones, but they set their priorities elsewhere, and have two championships since the decision.

As others have pointed out, they don't pay pass rushers.

Pass rush by committee. Cornerback is the position to spend money.

 

[Solar7]

As others have pointed out, they don't pay pass rushers.

Pass rush by committee. Cornerback is the position to spend money.

They don't even pay corners in general. Malcom Butler was their #1, an undrafted free agent, and he got shipped out real fast without a contract. They've acquired some guys, but most weren't paid as much as Stephon Gilmore. Revis only made it a year, Talib one and a half.

 

[TruColor]

Can someone fix the thread title? My OCD is going into overdrive every time I see it.

("Pats", not "Pat's".)

I'll go now; I'm sure there's a lightswitch that needs to be flipped somewhere.

 

[jf-08]

Can someone fix the thread title? My OCD is going into overdrive every time I see it.

("Pats", not "Pat's".)

I'll go now; I'm sure there's a lightswitch that needs to be flipped somewhere.

Done. You owe me!!!