Kingsbury adapting offensive verbiage to match Oklahoma's offense

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  1. Krangthebrain

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    The proliferation of Air Raid offenses has also hurt the Big 12 defenses, which seemingly haven't had an answer.

    Murray still dropped a ton of points on Alabama's vaunted defense, even with probably 20 players that will be drafted over the 3-4 years.
     
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    My point was that he wasn't a good coach, and the post I was replying to implied that if Kliff was like Chip, he'd go to a division championship year one.
     
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    Totally agree...

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    isnt that the game they were being blown out and all the points came in garbage time?
     
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    Krangthebrain Captain of Team Murray

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    There is no garbage time for Nick Saban.
     
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    There is for players who put in less effort when they are winning. I'm not going to anoint garbage times points as proof of anything. I am simply going to wait and see what he does against real competition.
     
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    Krangthebrain Captain of Team Murray

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    It's sad. 50% of this board is literally going to hate on anything Kyler Murray related.

    Kyler could save a drowning child and they would say he was the reason the kid was drowning in the first place.

    Did Hitler exterminate millions of Jews? Nope. Kyler Murray.
     
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    Krangthebrain Captain of Team Murray

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    Those guys dont play for Nick Saban.
     
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    yeah okay
     
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    It wasn’t garbage time. OU had that game within about 10 points with a lot of time left. They just got out to a miserable start, mostly because the OU defense gave up a TD in each of the first 4 possessions.
     
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    I guess. being down 21-0 and then 31-10, life becomes easier for the offense that is losing. it is natural, normal and common. they did get within 11 points in the third quarter catching up while down by 21 to start.

    and even then, his completion rate was 50%. This game did nothing for my confidence in him playing vs NFL defenses outside of his ability to run against them.

    I am optimistic that he will be good for us but his tough games in college (tiny sample size) do not scream that he will be dominant at the next level.

    Alabamas QB though? That dude was a stud in that game.
     
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    My point isn’t that it should help in that regard, but it shouldn’t really be used as a knock on him like some suggest. It was by far the best defense he played all year and while he wasn’t great he wasn’t bad either. He ultimately had a pretty decent game against Alabama.
     
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    So if had lead a comeback and beat Alabama all your doubts would be put to rest?
     
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    He did have a decent game, I simply took issue with "he hung up a ton of points on them" when he was WAY behind before it really happened.
     
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    No, I would still have doubts because he only played a single season against mostly marginal talent defensively.

    It's funny, everyone puts all this stock into Murray syndrome crap but even someone who wants murray to be good but has reservations is immediately pounced on if my comments do not swing from the balls of the great one.

    I was simply commenting on the quoted below:

    Which is a bit of a weighted take considering that he was down 21 before he even did anything and even by the end of the first half, they were still down by 21. It's a lot easier to move the ball when you are down by 3 possessions, I dont care who you are playing.
     
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