Suns Off Season Changes for 2025: Trades, Buyouts, GM, Coaches, etc.

[AzStevenCal]

AK47 was a premiere defender in his prime. I think Flagg is Kevin Love at best. Good stats on a bad team or maybe a second or third banana on a contender. Gordon Hayward is a better comparison for his skillset though.

He's a sure thing as a #1 pick because his floor is very high but his ceiling isn't that high as the building isn't very tall and construction is closed to finalized.

I think you're underrating him a little but we'll see.

 

[Hoop Head]

I think you're underrating him a little but we'll see.

I'm high on him as a prospect but don't think he's the centerpiece of a contender. Then again Tatum ended up being one but Flagg would need a stacked supporting cast with a #2 like Jaylen Brown who is on the same level, so more of a 1a and 1b situation.

I wouldn't put Flagg in the Giannis, Wemby category of guys who can carry a team to success if they're healthy.

Love was hindered by awful management in Minnesota as well. Who was his top teammate there? Rubio? They went 40-42 his last year there. He was an All-Star 3 times there. He missed one year due to only playing 18 games and before that he was entering the league as a rookie and his second year wasn't a full time starter. Once handed the reins though he did well but wasn't a franchise centerpiece.

 

[Phrazbit]

I do it with Dunn and I REALLY like Dunn. You don’t get a shot at a Flagg often. Absent a deal like this we won’t have that shot for years.

Giving up Dunn in that trade would be revolting, we've given up far too much in trades the last few years, trade after trade full of obvious imbalance.

But if a trade for flag hands on Dunn... I would make that trade. I think he is a bonafied superstar in the making.

I also don't think the Mavs will trade that pick unless it's for like Jokic or Giannis.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I'm high on him as a prospect but don't think he's the centerpiece of a contender. Then again Tatum ended up being one but Flagg would need a stacked supporting cast with a #2 like Jaylen Brown who is on the same level, so more of a 1a and 1b situation.

I wouldn't put Flagg in the Giannis, Wemby category of guys who can carry a team to success if they're healthy.

Love was hindered by awful management in Minnesota as well. Who was his top teammate there? Rubio? They went 40-42 his last year there. He was an All-Star 3 times there. He missed one year due to only playing 18 games and before that he was entering the league as a rookie and his second year wasn't a full time starter. Once handed the reins though he did well but wasn't a franchise centerpiece.

I don't know, I can certainly see him make a few improvements that turn him into an all time great, I just don't think it's a given. But very good player, that's a lock IMO. Maybe he's not coming into the league with a Wemby level projection but he's a much better prospect than GA was when he was drafted. And keep in mind, his season will start before he turns 19.

Maybe he won't become a Leonard-like superstar but he's much closer to it at 18 than Kawhi was. And as far as I know he doesn't have the physical concerns that Zion entered the league with nor have I heard anything but positives about the kids head and heart.

 

[angel_ofthe_south]

I am disheartened by suggestions I hear elsewhere that the Suns might keep Kevin Durant. I don't want to get rid of him as much as I would like to get rid of Bradley Beal; but I have little use for Durant. He does not particularly fit into this New Culture that Mat Ishbia seeks to build--he's too self-centered. The only thing he said or did last season that pleased me was publicly praising Collin Gillespie's locked-room leadership.

 

[BirdGangThing]

I am disheartened by suggestions I hear elsewhere that the Suns might keep Kevin Durant. I don't want to get rid of him as much as I would like to get rid of Bradley Beal; but I have little use for Durant. He does not particularly fit into this New Culture that Mat Ishbia seeks to build--he's too self-centered. The only thing he said or did last season that pleased me was publicly praising Collin Gillespie's locked-room leadership.

new culture? ish is clearly the problem

 

[Sparky16]

This would be a gift from Heaven.

yeah. I am doing that trade in a heartbeat. Then ship Durant to Houston or whatever. Bring CP3 back. let the POS Beal rot until he agrees to a trade I'd anyone is dumb enough to take him

 

[BirdGangThing]

i can't entertain the flagg fantasy

 

[Ronin]

Suns Projected to Land ‘Exciting’ Guard With ‘Major Potential’

The Phoenix Suns are due for a major offseason. Whether it be a Kevin Durant-sized shakeup or not, change is coming. The franchise has already imposed changes a

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[Ronin]

Lonzo Ball Makes Wild Kevin Durant Trade Prediction

The Phoenix Suns are in a tough spot this offseason with a lot of money tied up between their 'big three' of Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, and Bradley Beal. Next

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[Ronin]

Favorite for Suns coaching job has ties to Michigan State

The Phoenix Suns are deep into the process of selecting the franchise’s next head coach. The timeline on the decision is unknown but one of the favorites for the job might have a leg up on the competition because of his Alma Mater.

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[angel_ofthe_south]

new culture? ish is clearly the problem

Although Mr. Ishbia's promotion of his bestie Brian Gregory to GM is suspicious, all attempts to convince me to hate Ishbia are a waste of time. Upon buying the Suns, he immediately did what Robert Sarver generally wouldn't do: open his wallet. He's clearly here to win first and make money second. That's all I can demand.

Whatever he's done wrong, he's better than an owner who thought it was funny to release goats into his GM's office. (Any self-respecting man would have quit the job immediately.)

 

[GatorAZ]

Just a Sunday afternoon dopamine reset:
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[BirdGangThing]

Although Mr. Ishbia's promotion of his bestie Brian Gregory to GM is suspicious, all attempts to convince me to hate Ishbia are a waste of time. Upon buying the Suns, he immediately did what Robert Sarver generally wouldn't do: open his wallet. He's clearly here to win first and make money second. That's all I can demand.

Whatever he's done wrong, he's better than an owner who thought it was funny to release goats into his GM's office. (Any self-respecting man would have quit the job immediately. McDonough probably wasn't desperate.)

nobody is convincing you to hate ishbia - you blamed kevin durant for not fitting into this ish culture you have going when ish created the culture by bringing in kevin durant- and comparing ish to sarver just to build ish up isn't the way either - if you like ish and what he's trying to do then rocknroll maestro - but we were just in the finals with sarver and we had our draft picks

 

[Cheesebeef]

Just a Sunday afternoon dopamine reset:
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Pre-Micro Amare had the unicorn freak athlete, natural handles, jumper and drive to be a top 3 player year in year out. Eventually, a defensive coach would have taught him how to excel on that end also. And that’s not to say he wasn’t very good to great for a couple years when he came back, but he was never that pure freak again.

So damn sad.

 

[JerkFace]

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[angel_ofthe_south]

Pre-Micro Amare had the unicorn freak athlete, natural handles, jumper and drive to be a top 3 player year in year out. Eventually, a defensive coach would have taught him how to excel on that end also. And that’s not to say he wasn’t very good to great for a couple years when he came back, but he was never that pure freak again.

So damn sad.

He was impressive, but I'll always take his young-star-at-forward Suns predecessor, Antonio McDyess, over him. I trust *his* defense, and he was no Amare Stoudemire but no slouch in scoring.

As for the prospect of a defensive coach teaching Stoudemire to play defense: a question occurs that I think I had thought of before. Why did he never absorb good defense from his equally athletic frontcourt mate, Shawn Marion? Since I'm no fanboy of Shawn Marion, I have no problem entertaining the idea that Marion was over-rated; but to claim Marion wasn't a good defender is difficult to believe.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

He was impressive, but I'll always take his young-star-at-forward Suns predecessor, Antonio McDyess, over him. I trust *his* defense, and he was no Amare Stoudemire no slouch in scoring. I'm not sure whether he was that athletic overall, but he probably could jump at least as well.

As for the prospect of a defensive coach teaching Stoudemire to play defense: a question occurs that I think I had thought of before. Why did he never absorb good defense from his equally athletic frontcourt mate, Shawn Marion? Since I'm no fanboy of Shawn Marion, I have no problem entertaining the idea that Marion was over-rated; but to claim Marion wasn't a good defender is difficult to believe.

No chance on McDyess over Amare. Amare was arguably the most valuable asset in the league at one point. You can't say that with McDyess. Amare at his best was definitely better than McDyess. McDyess was a very good player. Amare should have been a generational player.

 

[Cheesebeef]

No chance on McDyess over Amare. Amare was arguably the most valuable asset in the league at one point. You can't say that with McDyess. Amare at his best was definitely better than McDyess. McDyess was a very good player. Amare should have been a generational player.

I wonder if people forget that the Amare in those highlights was only in his 3RD season and 21 years old. He was already a first or 2nd team All-NBA player at 21. And although his jumper wasn’t money yet, it was already respectable from 18-20 by the end of that season. The sky was the absolute limit for him.