Kevin Sumlin gets his recruit

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Sumlin’s not messing around. Glad we have a guy who’s motivated to sell the program to kids.
 

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Sumlin’s top-3 recruits are out of Texas. Picked up two 4* players today but only ended up at 48th overall and 7th in the P12. Seems they went heavy on the OL/DL which is refreshing.

Relatively positive development yesterday, but overall I am afraid Sumlin has been a colossal disappointment, in terms of game preparation, in-game coaching and recruiting, especially compared to Herm Edwards up north.
 

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Not a star-studded class, but Sumlin actually recruited against reputable Power 5 schools for talent as opposed to RichRod stealing recruits from Sac State. We got a lot bigger on both lines and have a QB who has limitless upside. All of the JUCO guys have a legit chance of starting day 1. Also, 8 recruits will be on campus January 9th. It comes down to coaching at this point.
 

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Relatively positive development yesterday, but overall I am afraid Sumlin has been a colossal disappointment, in terms of game preparation, in-game coaching and recruiting, especially compared to Herm Edwards up north.

Herm is relying on a lot of hype at this point, and a 7-win season, although better than what many predicted, is not a stellar showing. If Herm and co. can’t build off of that, ASU will suffer.

Despite the outcome, I still like Sumlin more than Herm.
 

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Despite the outcome, I still like Sumlin more than Herm.

Based on what? Herm not only had a better, surprising season, but has also put together a better recruiting class... Objectively, why would Sumlin be preferred over Herm?
 

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Here's a listing of the recruit class rankings as of now.

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/

PAC12 - 12/12 teams in the top 70
ACC 13/14 in top 70 (all but Louisville)
Big 12 - 8/10 (all but K-State and Kansas)
Big 10 - 13/14 (all but Maryland)
SEC 14/14
AAC 5/12
CUSA - 2/14
IND - 1 (Notre Dame)
MAC - 0/12
MWest 1/12 (Boise St is the only one)
SBC 1/12 (Louisiana is the only one)
 

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Herm is relying on a lot of hype at this point, and a 7-win season, although better than what many predicted, is not a stellar showing. If Herm and co. can’t build off of that, ASU will suffer.

Despite the outcome, I still like Sumlin more than Herm.

I’d definitely take him over Herm because he has years of experience in college with major success at two programs. I will be quick to jump off the wagon if he continues to stick it out with Marcel Yates though. Maybe it’s a money thing but they need to dump that guy ASAP.
 

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I’d definitely take him over Herm because he has years of experience in college with major success at two programs. I will be quick to jump off the wagon if he continues to stick it out with Marcel Yates though. Maybe it’s a money thing but they need to dump that guy ASAP.

Mazzone needs to be gone as well. Trying to force Khalil Tate into being a pure pocket passer was one of the dumbest moves I have ever seen.
 

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Based on what? Herm not only had a better, surprising season, but has also put together a better recruiting class... Objectively, why would Sumlin be preferred over Herm?
Objectively, Sumlin has a much longer track record of success in the college ranks against far superior competition. I guess if you’re a star gazer, asu has a better class, but it’s not like asu raked in a Top-10 class. There really isnt much difference in the middle. If Grant Gunnell doesnt lose his Top-80 designation, our class on paper looks much better. Additionally, I thought asu taking 3 QBs was silly. Better to stagger throughout different classes than stack in one class so you can address other needs on the team.
 

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I’d definitely take him over Herm because he has years of experience in college with major success at two programs. I will be quick to jump off the wagon if he continues to stick it out with Marcel Yates though. Maybe it’s a money thing but they need to dump that guy ASAP.

I’m lukewarm about Yates. We had some decent defensive games and then some games in which the team **** the bed throughout.

What’s funny is Yates had Top-25 defenses at Boise State.
 

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Objectively, Sumlin has a much longer track record of success in the college ranks against far superior competition. I guess if you’re a star gazer, asu has a better class, but it’s not like asu raked in a Top-10 class. There really isnt much difference in the middle. If Grant Gunnell doesnt lose his Top-80 designation, our class on paper looks much better. Additionally, I thought asu taking 3 QBs was silly. Better to stagger throughout different classes than stack in one class so you can address other needs on the team.

Should be very interesting to look back 3-4 years from now and compare the records both will have put up over that time...
 

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