Isaiah Thomas will sign a 10-day contract with the Suns

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Is it me or does it seem that Vogel is not on the same page as IT? In the interviews he seems to excited to play yet Vogel is saying he won't be in the rotation if the team is healthy. The Ish signing and the IT signing just don't make much sense unless you are trying to shore up something. The bench has been horrendous this season. If these signings are just pandering? It's just goign to piss the fans off more. Not that I think either signing is high impact but still. The IT signing has more potential though.
 
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Is it me or does it seem that Vogel is not on the same page as IT? In the interviews he seems to excited to play yet Vogel is saying he won't be in the rotation if the team is healthy. The Ish signing and the IT signing just don't make much sense unless you are trying to shore up something. The bench has been horrendous this season. If these signings are just pandering? It's just goign to piss the fans off more. Not that I think either signing is high impact but still. The IT signing has more potential though.

Yeah, from what I have read IT was not signed to be a rotation player and Ish Wainright is barely a two-way contract player.

The Suns really needed a backup point guard that could help the rotation, who could stabilize the team when Booker is on the bench in the 4th quarter.
 

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Yeah, from what I have read IT was not signed to be a rotation player and Ish Wainright is barely a two-way contract player.

The Suns really needed a backup point guard that could help the rotation, who could stabilize the team when Booker is on the bench in the 4th quarter.
Then why sign him to a 10-day only? If we are healthy for the next 10 days, then he won't see the floor. Why keep him beyond that if so? If he is insurance, then why not just sign him for the rest of the season?
 
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The Suns need a backup point guard worthy of playing in the playoffs. If the signing is only pandering, then he shouldn't have been signed. For example, Ish Smith is still available.
 

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Then why sign him to a 10-day only? If we are healthy for the next 10 days, then he won't see the floor. Why keep him beyond that if so? If he is insurance, then why not just sign him for the rest of the season?
isn't saban on his way out?
 

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The Suns need a backup point guard worthy of playing in the playoffs. If the signing is only pandering, then he shouldn't have been signed. For example, Ish Smith is still available.
If Ish Smith was worth signing, why hasn't ANYONE, let alone the Suns, signed him? We signed IT over Ish Smith, so that should tell you something. Whether you think this means that James Jones is an idiot or that Ish Smith has some problems you don't know about, it's all debatable.
 
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In my opinion, this is a lack of commitment from the Suns to pull out all the stops to find a point guard capable of being a rotation player in the playoffs.

Why pretend if IT is not capable of being a rotation player?

I have seen this dance before and so have the other playoff teams.

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In my opinion, this is a lack of commitment from the Suns to pull out all the stops to find a point guard capable of being a rotation player in the playoffs.

Why pretend if IT is not capable of being a rotation player?

I have seen this dance before and so have the other playoff teams.

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If anything, why not try and spark something with him in the 4th? It's not freaking working in the 4th. 30th in offensive rating, 30th in net rating, 25th in defensive rating, 27th in FG% and 28th in 3 PT% which would be much worse without Grayson.

What do the Suns have to lose getting him in the rotation at this point? It may not work but at least he would be trying SOMETHING.

If this is not an admonishment of Vogel and why he sucks I am missing something. This guy's schemes have failed on both ends of the ball all season long and his rotations suck too.
 

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What makes you say that? He's on a 2-way so he's not on the way out. Sounds like they are going to wait until the last possible moment to make the decision about whether he will be converted.
He's on his way out or IT would not have been signed. I suppose if IT somehow looks worse maybe Saben could still get a roster spot, but it is unlikely.
 
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Hopefully this does not resemble Isaiah Thomas, the current NBA player.

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Guys we are talking about a dude that hasn't been in the NBA in 6 years. I think the expectations for IT are way to high on this board.

He's not going to solve our problems.
 

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Guys we are talking about a dude that hasn't been in the NBA in 6 years. I think the expectations for IT are way to high on this board.

He's not going to solve our problems.
How so? Where have you seen anybody say he will be a world beater? You are missing the point. What we are doing now isn't working. Saying we should try something doesn't mean it will work. It just means we are not doing what is failing repeatedly and consistently.
 

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looks like a locker room signing to me. The team desperately needs some positive energy.
 
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Guys we are talking about a dude that hasn't been in the NBA in 6 years. I think the expectations for IT are way to high on this board.

He's not going to solve our problems.

That's the problem. If IT doesn't have some type of expectation of playing, then why bring him in?

Bring in a player that at least has a chance.
 

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exactly - vogel isn't playing him - and in 9 days he'll be isaiah no mas - so what's the freakin point
 

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He will get playtime.
It's on IT to break into this nonexistent rotation.
No he is not a pass first PG but he can bring the ball up without turning it over, something that eludes Book, KD and Beal and Grayson.
I'm not the biggest IT fan but I won't poo on his "comeback".
Praying that maybe he has a Cam Payne type resurgence.
 

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How so? Where have you seen anybody say he will be a world beater? You are missing the point. What we are doing now isn't working. Saying we should try something doesn't mean it will work. It just means we are not doing what is failing repeatedly and consistently.
I certanily have not missed that point. I think the difference between you and me is I no longer have any hope the team will turn it around this season, and I am well beyond the point of grasping at straws.
 

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I certanily have not missed that point. I think the difference between you and me is I no longer have any hope the team will turn it around this season, and I am well beyond the point of grasping at straws.
You claimed people thinks he is going to be the savior. That's the only difference I see. I have not seen one person say that.
 

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You claimed people thinks he is going to be the savior. That's the only difference I see. I have not seen one person say that.
Yeah that's weird.

But let's face it, one of the things that is a hallmark of this board is that posters are CONSTANTLY misrepresenting each other. We're all guilty of it.
 

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Yeah that's weird.

But let's face it, one of the things that is a hallmark of this board is that posters are CONSTANTLY misrepresenting each other. We're all guilty of it.
If someone wants to clarify I take no issue. If someone wants me to clarify I take no issue. I have started blocking REPEAT offenders like Hoophead. I don't have time for it.
 
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Guys we are talking about a dude that hasn't been in the NBA in 6 years. I think the expectations for IT are way to high on this board.

He's not going to solve our problems.
2 years, not 6.

If his hip issues are gone he might be of some help. I don't think anybody thinks we're going to get the All-Star version, it would be a great find if we get somebody who can play 10-15 minutes a night, run the offense and provide some leadership.
 
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2 years, not 6.

If his hip issues are gone he might be of some help. I don't think anybody thinks we're going to get the All-Star version, it would be a great find if we get somebody who can play 10-15 minutes a night, run the offense and provide some leadership.

I agree with the part in bold, but I don't think this signing is about that, the way Frank Vogel has talked about him.

I sure hope I'm wrong because I liked IT earlier in his career.
 

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I agree with the part in bold, but I don't think this signing is about that, the way Frank Vogel has talked about him.

I sure hope I'm wrong because I liked IT earlier in his career.

Vogel is an idiot. He openly says he won't use IT unless there's an injury, which on it's own isn't terrible except he's been so off on every other time he talks about a players role here. He said Ayton would be a focal point despite Ayton being on the block with one foot out the door. He spoke highly about some of the minimum signing guys we dealt away like KBD, Yuta, and Goodwin. They're no longer here. He said Bol² would be a regular in the rotation since he earned that in games and practice and then sat him. He did the same with Azabuike. I believe he even said Thad Young would be a regular rotation big but that hasn't happened either. Vogel's word means nothing.
 

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