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Teams have to have an identity. Something they do better than anyone else. By design or by virtue of the way these drafts fell, our strength appears to be in our backers and pass rush now. Thats fine with me. Stop the run in this division, and you'll do better than most.

We'll count on Philips, Allen, Fotu, and Lawrence to hold the line, and Baker, Murphy, Alford, Butler and others in the secondary. You can win with that, as long as you score some points.

Need a contributing skill position offensive player tomorrow.
 

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Base defense is now Nickel. It's why we took Byron Murphy at the start of round 2

So you have Zach Allen and Watt on the line.

You have Chandler, Simmons, and Golden.

So where does he play outside of sub packages unless it is at the expense of Golden?
He will play in nickel he is highly rated in pass coverage and can blitz
 

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Teams have to have an identity. Something they do better than anyone else. By design or by virtue of the way these drafts fell, our strength appears to be in our backers and pass rush now. Thats fine with me. Stop the run in this division, and you'll do better than most.

We'll count on Philips, Allen, Fotu, and Lawrence to hold the line, and Baker, Murphy, Alford, Butler and others in the secondary. You can win with that, as long as you score some points.

Need a contributing skill position offensive player tomorrow.
Add Watt
 

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Base defense is now Nickel. It's why we took Byron Murphy at the start of round 2

So you have Zach Allen and Watt on the line.

You have Chandler, Simmons, and Golden.

So where does he play outside of sub packages unless it is at the expense of Golden?

?????

Devondre Campbell (80%of snaps) and Jordan Hicks (90%of snaps) played side by side for most of the season.

Simmons played 30% of the snaps as he gained more playing time
 

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The only way this pick makes sense is if we play a 2 4 5 as base or Golden loses his job at OLB
 

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in that package? Golden

Agree but was that the problem the team needed to fix at the draft?

If so then just pay the 3 million to resign Reddick and actually improve the team rather than tread water/ worry about next year's replacement
 

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Watt/ PetersFotu /Allen

Jones / Simmons / CollinsHicks / Golden

It's not the 1990s base offense is 11 personell, especially in our division.

But also if that is true then Byron Murphy is the guy out in the defense above
 

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These pieces don't fit together

Simmons.
Collins.
Murphy.
Allen.

This is why this pick is so wretched. You have to remove a.starter to make it work
 

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Base defense is now Nickel. It's why we took Byron Murphy at the start of round 2

So you have Zach Allen and Watt on the line.

You have Chandler, Simmons, and Golden.

So where does he play outside of sub packages unless it is at the expense of Golden?
I don’t think that’s true. It was the case under Wilkes, but Vance plays more lbs.
?????

Devondre Campbell (80%of snaps) and Jordan Hicks (90%of snaps) played side by side for most of the season.

Simmons played 30% of the snaps as he gained more playing time
yup. Essentially two ILBs on the field for 100% of snaps.
 

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It's not the 1990s base offense is 11 personell, especially in our division.

But also if that is true then Byron Murphy is the guy out in the defense above
Only thing I can think of is playing Simmons in the slot, but that’s not ideal.
 

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Okay if you believe we are playing 2 ILB all the time then either we are in dime so no Fotu or in 3/4 so no Murphy or Golden doesn't play despite being signed over Reddick.

Collins can't play without removing.an existing.starter.
 

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And let me explain it again. There are only 11 starters on defense. The idea of a "front 7" is at best a two run down mentality given that most teams run 3+ WR 70% of the time

So Hicks wasn't a thing. Unless the Campbell/Simmons spot didn't play.
 

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this board has transformed into overtly negative about everything over the past year or 2. some here will disagree with every single thing we would have done tonight it it wasn't the the 1 prospect they wanted. ridiculous.

i used to take pride in being a dark sider, now we all are
 
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