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WARNING THIS POST AND THE POST BELOW ARE WRONG, THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT CORRECT.


OK, I am looking for help here. All input is welcome.

A few weeks back I tried to figure out how the numbers are figured out on: cap savings, dead money, and how bonuses and salary work together to give those numbers.

There is a lot of difference places that have explanations but they are not the clearest explanations.

So below is how I think it goes, I am looking to be corrected if I am wrong, BTW.

First some terms:

Salary:
Well, it is what it is. The salary is what the player gets paid, just like our paycheck they have all kinds of union dues, taxes, etc., etc coming out of it, but this is there pay for playing football. Most NFL contracts are backloaded. Meaning a 3 million dollar salary that is paid over 3 years does NOT come out to 1 million dollars a year. The owners do this so the contracts are more cap friendly. The maximum a contract can differ from year to year is 30%. So a normal 3 million dollar salary number in a contract over 3 years would look like the following:

1 - $751,879.70
2 - $977,443.60
3 - $1,270,676.60

Again, this is for the sake of explanation. The organizations do not HAVE TO backload the salary portion of the contract if they don't want, but they usually do. The salary for a contract is NOT guaranteed.


Signing Bonus:
A signing bonus, is a bonus paid to the player upon signing his contact. He gets it all up front, in the pocket. Even though the money has already been paid to the player once he signed the contract, the signing bonus is prorated for the life of the contract. Going back to our example, lets say that 3yr, 3million dollar contract has a 2.7 million dollar signing bonus. Then the player gets plaid 2.7 million dollars at the moment he signs the contract, and the signing bonus is prorated over the contract like so:

1 - $900,000.00
2 - $900,000.00
3 - $900,000.00


Roster Bonus:
It is what it says it is. This bonus is paid to the player, if and only if, that player is on the team's roster on the agreed upon date. These dates are commonly March 1st, and June 1st (Rod Graves' favorite day of the year), but again they don't HAVE to be on those dates, it matters on what the contract says. Going back to our contract that we are using for an example. The player has in his contract he receives a 500k roster bonus each year he is on the roster. The date agreed upon is March 5th. If the player is on the roster on March 5th he gets his 500k roster bonus, if he is cut after March 5th, i.e. March 6th, he still keeps his roster bonus, and the bonus goes against the cap for that year. If the player is cut before March 5th, i.e. March 4th he doesn't get any of the roster bonus, and the bonus does not go against the cap.


Workout Bonus:
At it's basic core, workout bonuses are what they say they are. If a player comes in for a set percentage of conditioning programs in the offseason they will receive a workout bonus. If an organization doesn't want to pay a player a workout bonus, there safest route is to cut the player before April 15th. Like the roster bonus, if the player is cut before he has the chance to partake in the offseason conditioning programs then he doesn't get paid the bonus, and it does not go towards the cap. If he is at the offseason coniditioning programs then he gets paid and it goes toward the cap.


Other Bonuses & Incentives:
OK, someone else can get into these. They are all over the place. The Incentives are pretty easy. You reach the goals in your contract and you get paid more. I.E. Our fictional player above gets an extra $500,000.00 if he catches 75 passes. He catches 82 passes the season before, and he gets the bonus.


Dead Money:
This is the salary cap charge for a player no longer on the team's roster, *under the original contract (See Levi Brown). If an organization cuts, trades, or releases a player, they will have to take on the guaranteed money in the contract toward their cap. So, guaranteed bonuses, like signing bonuses or incentives earned in the previous year will be charged to the organization's cap. The non-guaranteed money, salary, or bonuses not yet earned will not be charged to the cap. The signing bonus, and any bonus that is set up like a signing bonus that I don't know of, is setup so that at the time of the player being released, cut, or traded that entire bonus "left" on the contract goes towards that year's cap, *unless after June 1st. Let's go back to our contract. The following is the dead money that the contact would have for cutting the player at different times of the year, and at different years.


*June 1st, and signing bonuses:
June 1st is significant because if you cut a player after this date (and there are exception to this rule) only that year's bonus is counted towards that year's cap, the rest of the bonus for the contract is put towards the following year's cap number.


Cap Money Saved:
This is the money saved by an organization when cutting, trading, or releasing a player. As read at the end of the "Dead Money" explanation, salary and bonuses not yet earned are what an organization saves in cutting, trading, or releasing a player


Player's Cap Figures - How the Contract is paid out:
Now that we have the terms down, let's take a look at our player's contract.....but this is a little stale. Let's name our player. Jacque Strap, is a a UDFA that came on as a reciever for the Cardinals and just signed a 3 year contract for 3 million dollars, 2.7 million dollar signing bonus, a roster bonus of 500k a year, a workout bonus of 250k a year, and an incentive in years 2 and 3 of the contract for 500k if he catches 75 or more passes in the previous year.

Year One:
Salary: $751,879.70
Signing Bonus: $900,000.00
Roster Bonus: $500,000.00
Workout Bonus: $250,000.00
Incentives: $0

His cap figure for that year will be: $2,401,879.70


Year Two: - caught 82 passes.
Salary: $977,443.60
Signing Bonus: $900,000.00
Roster Bonus: $500,000.00
Workout Bonus: $250,000.00
Incentives: $500,000

His cap figure for that year will be: $3,127,443.60


Year Three: - caught 82 passes.
Salary: $1,270,676.61
Signing Bonus: $900,000.00
Roster Bonus: $500,000.00
Workout Bonus: $250,000.00
Incentives: $500,000

His cap figure for that year will be: $3,420,676.61

So, Jacque initially signed a near 9 million dollar contract. Meaning when this player initially signed, it said on SI.com that Jacque Strap was signed by the Cardinals for 9 million dollars.


Cutting a Player: Cap Savings, and Dead Money
OK, now what happens if the Cardinals made a big mistake (shocker) and realized they signed a player they do not want. We are going to go through each year, at different periods of the year and see what happens when Jacque is released:

Year 1 - cut right after signing contract:
Jacque signs the contract on March 1st 2015, he is going to be paid his signing bonus, and his roster bonus. ***Four days later it is found that Jacque Strap is selling babies on the black market, and the Cardinals want to cut him.

*** There are laws that allow a team to get all there money back in this instance but for the sake of an example we will go along with my story ***

Year One - if cut on March 5th
Salary: $751,879.70
Signing Bonus: $900,000.00
Roster Bonus: $500,000.00
Workout Bonus: $250,000.00
Incentives: $0

[$751,879.70 + $250,000] - [$2,700,000* + $500,000] = -$2,198,120.30

*Remember the signing bonus dead money is $900k x 3yrs

Cap Savings: $1,001,879.70
Dead Money: $3,200,000.00

Thus cutting Jacque Strap on March 5th 2015 will cost the Cardinals $2,198,120.30 towards the 2015 salary cap. Meaning the Cardinals are going to lost money from what is paid to the player via bonuses, AND lose cap room.


Year One - if cut after earning workout bonus[/B]
Our player has been working out with the team, and cursing out John Lott, and spitting on players he doesn't like. So, he earned his workout bonus, but he has to go.

Year One - after earned workout bonus
Salary: $751,879.70
Signing Bonus: $900,000.00
Roster Bonus: $500,000.00
Workout Bonus: $250,000.00
Incentives: $0

[$751,879.70] - [$2,700,000 + $500,000 + $250,000] = -$2,698,120.30

Cap Savings: $751,879.70
Dead Money: $3,450,000.00

Thus cutting Jacque Strap after he earned his workout bonus will cost the Cardinals $2,698,120.30 towards the 2015 salary cap. Meaning the Cardinals are going to lost money from what is paid to the player via bonuses, AND lose cap room.


Year One - after June 1st[/B]
Our player has been through all the offseason workouts. The Cardinals see he has lost his motivation, looked horrible in all the camps and workouts, and rumor comes out he likes the Purple Drank. It is time for him to go, but they are cost to the cap this year, and have some room next year. They wait till after June 1st

Year One - after June 1st
Salary: $751,879.70
Signing Bonus: $900,000.00
Roster Bonus: $500,000.00
Workout Bonus: $250,000.00
Incentives: $0

[$751,879.70] - [$900,000* + $500,000 + $250,000] = -$1,649,248.20

Cap Savings: $751,879.70
Dead Money for 2015: $1,650,000.00
Dead Money for 2016: $1,800,000.00

Thus cutting Jacque Strap on March 5th 2015 will cost the Cardinals $898,120.30 towards the 2015 salary cap, but will also cost the Cardinals $1,800,000.00 ($900,000 x 2yrs) against the cap in 2016.Meaning the Cardinals are going to lost money from what is paid to the player via bonuses, AND lose cap room.


Year 2:
OK. At this point all the same rules apply in year two except, in 2015 Jacque Stap catches 82 passes. He has earned his incentive bonus for 2016, so that is guaranteed.

Year Two - Cut before paid Roster bonus
Salary: $977,443.60
Signing Bonus: $900,000.00
Roster Bonus: $500,000.00
Workout Bonus: $250,000.00
Incentives: $250,000

[$977,443.60 + $250,000 + $500,000] - [$1,800,000* + $250,000] = -$322,556.40

*Remember the signing bonus dead money is $900k x 2yrs

Cap Savings: $1,727,443.60
Dead Money: $2,050,000.00


Year Two - Cut before paid Workout bonus
Salary: $977,443.60
Signing Bonus: $900,000.00
Roster Bonus: $500,000.00
Workout Bonus: $250,000.00
Incentives: $250,000

[$977,443.60 + $250,000] - [$1,800,000* + $250,000 + $500,000] = -$1,322,556.40

Cap Savings: $1,227,443.60
Dead Money: $2,550,000.00


Year Two - Cut before June 1st
Salary: $977,443.60
Signing Bonus: $900,000.00
Roster Bonus: $500,000.00
Workout Bonus: $250,000.00
Incentives: $250,000

[$977,443.60] - [$1,800,000* + $250,000 + $500,000 + $250,000] = -$1,822,556.40

Cap Savings: $977,443.60
Dead Money: $2,800,000.00



Year Two - Cut after June 1st
Salary: $977,443.60
Signing Bonus: $900,000.00
Roster Bonus: $500,000.00
Workout Bonus: $250,000.00
Incentives: $250,000

[$977,443.60] - [$900,000* + $250,000 + $500,000 + $250,000] = -$922,556.40

Cap Savings: $977,443.60
Dead Money 2016: $1,900,000.00
Dead Money 2017: $900,000.00


Year 3:
OK. At this point all the same rules apply in year two, in 2016 Jacque Stap catches 82 passes. He has earned his incentive bonus for 2017, so that is guaranteed. We should now see some cap savings from cutting this player. His salary has increased to where it is great then his guaranteed bonuses.

Year Three - Cut before paid Roster bonus
Salary: $1,270,676.60
Signing Bonus: $900,000.00
Roster Bonus: $500,000.00
Workout Bonus: $250,000.00
Incentives: $250,000

[$1,270,676.60 + $250,000 + $500,000] - [$900,000* + $250,000] = $870,676.60

*Remember the signing bonus dead money is $900k x 1yrs

Cap Savings: $2,020,676.60
Dead Money: $1,150,000.00

So in the 3rd year of this players contract, if the Cardinals cut the player before they have to pay his roster bonus, they will clear up $870,676.60 against the 2017 cap. To be clear, by cutting this player at this point and time the Cardinals get $870,676.60 back to use towards that year's cap.


Year Three - Cut before paid Workout bonus
Salary: $1,270,676.60
Signing Bonus: $900,000.00
Roster Bonus: $500,000.00
Workout Bonus: $250,000.00
Incentives: $250,000

[$1,270,676.60 + $250,000] - [$900,000* + $250,000 + $500,000] = -$129,323.40

Cap Savings: $1,520,676.60
Dead Money: $1,650,000.00

So in the 3rd year of this players contract, if the Cardinals cut the player before they have to pay his work out bonus, it will cost the Cardinals $129,323.40 against the cap. That is because the Cardinals paid the player his roster bonus of 500k, and it now counts towards the cap for that year if he is cut. The point being, if the Cardinals wanted to cut this player, they should have decided it BEFORE giving him his roster bonus.

Year Three - Cut before June 1st

*** Because this is the last year of the player's contract, it makes no difference cutting him before or after June 1st. There is no signing bonus that is slated for 2018 because the player's contract will be up in 2018. So, to be clear, the bonus carry over to 2018 is $0. Thus what is shown below applies to if the player is cut any time after receiving his roster bonus. June 1st doesn't matter.

Salary: $1,270,676.60
Signing Bonus: $900,000.00
Roster Bonus: $500,000.00
Workout Bonus: $250,000.00
Incentives: $250,000

[$1,270,676.60] - [$900,000* + $250,000 + $500,000 + $250,000] = -$629,323.40

Cap Savings: $1,270,676.60
Dead Money: $1,900,000.00

Thus it costs the Cardinals $629,323.40 against the cap to cut the player after he receives his workout, and any time after that.

Well, that is it. That is how I see this craziness work out math wise. I will follow up this post to see how Stewart Bradley, and William Gay freed up about 7 million dollars by cutting them.

For some other cool tidbits about reworking contracts see the link below:
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013...ion-amortization-cap-hits-dead-money-and-more

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Souces:
- http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...cost-and-savings-of-cutting-some-players.html

- http://www.askthecommish.com/SalaryCap/faq.aspx

- http://www.ehow.com/how_2077638_know-nfl-salary-cap-rules.html

- http://insidefootball.com/blog/archives/2366

- http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013...ion-amortization-cap-hits-dead-money-and-more
 
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Stewart Bradley*:

*All of his past salary information is off the web. :(

Per Rotoworld & Sportrac -
The move clears $3.5 million in cap space, but leaves behind $3 million in dead money.

Thus if I do this backwards, knowing he had 3 years left on his contract, I would get something in the ballpark of:

Salary: $4,000,000.00
Signing Bonus: $1,000,000.00
Roster/Workout Bonus: $500,000.00

Cap Savings: $4,500,000.00
Dead Money: $500,000.00

$3,000,000.00 cleared up for 2013.


William Gay:

Salary: $3,225,000
Signing Bonus: $250,000 (last year of contract)
Roster/Workout Bonus: $125,000

Cap Savings: $3,350,000.00
Dead Money: $250,000.00

$3,100,000.00 cleared up for 2013.


I get a total of 6.1 million saved against the cap.
 
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How about some other players that are talked about:

Using Sportrac numbers: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/arizona-cardinals/


Kevin Kolb: before roster bonus is due

Salary: 9mil
Signing Bonus: 2mil for 3 yrs - 6mil
Roster/Workout Bonus: 2.5mil

Cap Savings: $11.5
Dead Money: 6mil

$5,500,000.00 cleared up for 2013.


Daryn Colledge: before roster bonus is due

Salary: 3.8mil
Signing Bonus: 1.5mil for 3 yrs - 4.5mil
Roster/Workout Bonus: 1.975mil

Cap Savings: $5.775mil
Dead Money: $4.5mil

$1.275mil cleared up for 2013.


Levi Brown: before roster bonus is due

Salary: 4.75mil
Signing Bonus: 1.4mil for 4 yrs - 5.6mil
Roster/Workout Bonus: 250k

Cap Savings: $5mil
Dead Money: $5.6mil

600k against the cap up for 2013.


Adam Snyder: before roster bonus is due

Salary: 2.9mil
Signing Bonus: 1mil for 4 yrs - 4mil
Roster/Workout Bonus: 100k

Cap Savings: $3mil
Dead Money: $4mil

1mil against the cap up for 2013.


Jeff King: before roster bonus is due

Salary: 1.5mil
Signing Bonus: 333,334
Roster/Workout Bonus: 50k

Cap Savings: $1.55mil
Dead Money: $333,334

$1,216,666.00 cleared up for 2013.


Chris "Beanie" Wells: before roster bonus is due

Salary: $1,407,500
Signing Bonus: $962,500
Roster/Workout Bonus: 50k

Cap Savings: $1,457,500
Dead Money: $962,500

$495,000.00 cleared up for 2013.


Early Doucet: before roster bonus is due

Salary: $1,950,000
Signing Bonus: $250,000
Roster/Workout Bonus: 50k

Cap Savings: $2mil
Dead Money: $250,000

$1.75mil cleared up for 2013.


Adrian Wilson: before roster bonus is due

Salary: $2,500,000.00
Signing Bonus: $1,925,000.00 (total for contract)
Roster/Workout Bonus: 1,250,000.00

Cap Savings: $3.75mil
Dead Money: $1.925mil

$1.825mil cleared up for 2013.


Lyle Sendlein: before roster bonus is due

Salary: $2.4mil
Signing Bonus: 700k for 3 yrs
Roster/Workout Bonus: 575k

Cap Savings: $2,975,000.00
Dead Money: $2,100,000.00

$875,000.00 cleared up for 2013.
 

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****Kevin Kolb: before roster bonus is due

Salary: 9mil
Signing Bonus: 2mil for 3 yrs - 6mil
Roster/Workout Bonus: 2.5mil

Cap Savings: $11.5
Dead Money: 6mil

$5,500,000.00 cleared up for 2013.***

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My understanding was we would be actually clearing 7.5 million against our projected cap number by cutting him before roster bonus, since that bonus was already factored into our 2013 salary cap number.
 

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****Kevin Kolb: before roster bonus is due

Salary: 9mil
Signing Bonus: 2mil for 3 yrs - 6mil
Roster/Workout Bonus: 2.5mil

Cap Savings: $11.5
Dead Money: 6mil

$5,500,000.00 cleared up for 2013.***

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My understanding was we would be actually clearing 7.5 million against our projected cap number by cutting him before roster bonus, since that bonus was already factored into our 2013 salary cap number.


You are correct. 2m is already calculated against the 2013 cap so Kolb's cap is 13.5 - 6M remaining bonus = 7.5M
 

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Rugby--I got lost as to what your question(s) were. What I'd recommend is that you check out overthecap.com, which has a separate column for dead money for each year of the contract.

One-time cap charge, not pro-rated: Roster Bonus, workout bonus, salary, incentive bonus

Pro-rated under the remaining years of the deal: Signing bonus, Option Bonus, re-structure bonus.

Bradley was on the books for a $5M salary in 2013 and had $3M in pro-rated SB money that's now "dead". I think. My vision goes red with rage whenever I consider what we paid Stewart Bradley and what we got for that money.
 
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Rugby--I got lost as to what your question(s) were. What I'd recommend is that you check out overthecap.com, which has a separate column for dead money for each year of the contract.

One-time cap charge, not pro-rated: Roster Bonus, workout bonus, salary, incentive bonus

Pro-rated under the remaining years of the deal: Signing bonus, Option Bonus, re-structure bonus.

Bradley was on the books for a $5M salary in 2013 and had $3M in pro-rated SB money that's now "dead". I think. My vision goes red with rage whenever I consider what we paid Stewart Bradley and what we got for that money.

My question is: Is what I am saying above correct ? Just trying to get a handle on how this all works.

You know, so when we sign Drew Stanton I can figure out what kind of contract he gets :)

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You are correct. 2m is already calculated against the 2013 cap so Kolb's cap is 13.5 - 6M remaining bonus = 7.5M

Not saying you or roland are wrong, I am saying that I do not understand.


Kolb's salary for 2013 - 9 million dollars

He has a signing bonuses on his contract for:

2013 - 2 million
2014 - 2 million
2015 - 2 million

That gives him 6 million in bonuses total if we cut him.

He has a roster bonus of 2.5 million due to him in 2013.

If we cut him before the roster bonus is due the Cardinals don't have to pay the salary and the roster bonus (9 million + 2.5 million = 11.5 million).

But they do have to pay him the 6 million for the signing bonus.

Where does this extra 2 million dollars come from to give him 13.5 million in savings ?


STOP----- Went to http://www.overthecap.com/teamcap.php?Team=Cardinals&Year=2013 -----------------

OK, after looking at the cap page for this website, I see my error.

So, what I am missing, is that for THAT YEAR, the signing bonus is more or less a push. It is counted toward the cap savings and the dead money ?

Is that correct ?
 

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Not saying you or roland are wrong, I am saying that I do not understand.


Kolb's salary for 2013 - 9 million dollars

He has a signing bonuses on his contract for:

2013 - 2 million
2014 - 2 million
2015 - 2 million

That gives him 6 million in bonuses total if we cut him.

He has a roster bonus of 2.5 million due to him in 2013.

If we cut him before the roster bonus is due the Cardinals don't have to pay the salary and the roster bonus (9 million + 2.5 million = 11.5 million).

But they do have to pay him the 6 million for the signing bonus.

Where does this extra 2 million dollars come from to give him 13.5 million in savings ?


STOP----- Went to http://www.overthecap.com/teamcap.php?Team=Cardinals&Year=2013 -----------------

OK, after looking at the cap page for this website, I see my error.

So, what I am missing, is that for THAT YEAR, the signing bonus is more or less a push. It is counted toward the cap savings and the dead money ?

Is that correct ?

If you look at the website and you will see that the 2M of the prorated bonus is already calculated in the 2013 cap number.

http://www.overthecap.com/cap.php?Name=Kevin Kolb&Position=QB&Team=Cardinals
 

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