Durant to Suns

[Ronin]

Report: Suns Have 'No Leverage' in Kevin Durant Trade

The Suns could have to take what they can get for Kevin Durant.

www.si.com

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Report: Suns Have 'No Leverage' in Kevin Durant Trade

The Suns could have to take what they can get for Kevin Durant.

www.si.com

I don’t agree with this. If the suns are smart (a big IF there) they recognize this isn’t a championship season. So playing the waiting game is in their favor if they aren’t seeing the assets they desire. It’s obvious that there ARE multiple teams with varying levels of interest. All it takes is one to become convinced they need him to cause them to up the ante. Will the suns come away with highway robbery? No. But to say they have “no leverage” is false because (a) they literally hold the desired asset; and (b) the only timetable is the expiration of his contract.

 

[Mainstreet]

Suns have to hope a contender values a soon-to-be 37 year old player, who wants a new contract, select the team he will play for and is being paid $54,708,608 this season.

This could resemble the Jimmy Butler situation if they are not careful. Trade opportunities could dry up as time goes by. I don't see a lot of leverage.

Also, the Suns have to be concerned about injury if they start the season with him on the roster.

 

[BirdGangThing]

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Also, the Suns have to be concerned about injury if they start the season with him on the roster.

we might not get it done before the draft but definitely before the season

 

[Covert Rain]

There’s zero chatter about Beal on any front.

There wouldn’t be until KD is done. The Suns have no idea what their asset situation is going to be until they move KD.

 

[95pro]

Suns have to hope a contender values a soon-to-be 37 year old player, who wants a new contract, select the team he will play for and is being paid $54,708,608 this season.

This could resemble the Jimmy Butler situation if they are not careful. Trade opportunities could dry up as time goes by. I don't see a lot of leverage.

Also, the Suns have to be concerned about injury if they start the season with him on the roster.

Yep we really have no leverage, we put the guy on the market already. If we wait then we lose out on such bids.

Also KD's list is short which handcuff's us even more, teems aren't willing to give up much since they know his stance on where he wants to land. They're not going to pay extra to pull him to place where he doesn't want to play. Teems will begin to focus on other assets and move on from trying to acquire KD.

If we keep him and let him expire, then we lose him for nothing except cap space and missing out on additional sweeteners like picks and assets we can flip.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Report: Suns Have 'No Leverage' in Kevin Durant Trade

The Suns could have to take what they can get for Kevin Durant.

www.si.com

These articles are so dumb. Of course they have leverage! There are teams out there that are desperate for a killer scorer, and KD is just that.

 

[95pro]

There wouldn’t be until KD is done. The Suns have no idea what their asset situation is going to be until they move KD.

Even if KD gets traded, we probably still be over the 2nd cap. Beal still has a huge contract and ntc. Matching his salary 1-1 isn't happening, any of those players with similar salary are just better players than Beal. A bottom feeder isn't looking at Beal to vault their season to playoff hopes and send us some usable pieces and gutting their roster at the same time.

Our sweeteners are even that great, not enticing enough to add to Beal for whatever they send back to us.

 

[Yuma]

Report: Suns Receiving Kevin Durant Trade Interest From Surprising New Team

The Phoenix Suns are reportedly receiving new Kevin Durant trade interest from a surprising team.

www.newsweek.com

They just got a lot of draft capitol!

 

[Mainstreet]

Sham Charania weighs in on the Durant trade liking it to a game of chicken among the Rockets, Heat and Timberwolves.

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[Yuma]

Even if KD gets traded, we probably still be over the 2nd cap. Beal still has a huge contract and ntc. Matching his salary 1-1 isn't happening, any of those players with similar salary are just better players than Beal. A bottom feeder isn't looking at Beal to vault their season to playoff hopes and send us some usable pieces and gutting their roster at the same time.

Our sweeteners are even that great, not enticing enough to add to Beal for whatever they send back to us.

I'm guessing if it's multiple players we would waive one of them to get under the second apron. We still have an Allen trade to do. Plus waiving some of the guys like Micic, Richards and Martin because all three have non guaranteed contracts, (just two of the three would work) would get us under the second apron. Plus taking players back in a kd trade we can take less money if it's within a certain percentage. I am surprised the Suns are not waiving a couple guys, I saw Micic supposedly is signing with a team overseas as soon as possible.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm guessing if it's multiple players we would waive one of them to get under the second apron. We still have an Allen trade to do. Plus waiving some of the guys like Micic, Richards and Martin because all three have non guaranteed contracts, (just two of the three would work) would get us under the second apron. Plus taking players back in a kd trade we can take less money if it's within a certain percentage. I am surprised the Suns are not waiving a couple guys, I saw Micic supposedly is signing with a team overseas as soon as possible.

The Suns might be waiting to see if they might need their contracts to make a trade work.

Their non-guaranteed contracts might be attractive.

 

[Yuma]

Come on, these are HOF player, you think Dilingham has any resemblance?

And it not about Dilligham's height, that is OK. It is about everything else phisically. Just take a look on his highlights and you will see what I am talking about.

I heard on Brendon Kleen's podcast he saw himk in Las Vegas, and he says the guy looks more like a guy off the street than an NBA player size wise. He said Tyus Jones looks bigger than Dillingham. He said it was not just height, but body composition. He is young and can do weights, etc.

 

[Yuma]

The Suns might be waiting to see if they might need their contracts to make a trade work.

Their non-guaranteed contracts might be attractive.

I was thinking that too. The non-guaranteed contracts might be attractive to the teams over the second apron like us.

 

[Yuma]

There wouldn’t be until KD is done. The Suns have no idea what their asset situation is going to be until they move KD.

Yeah, that means we are giving up assets to move him. That sucks. I'd rather just let him either play out, or sit this season, and keep the assets to rebuild. If we are going younger, I am assuming smaller contracts, and maybe we just eat a year of Beal's salary, let him come off the bench when available, or moth ball him for a trade the next year at midseason when his expiring contract might be attractive to someone, or the remainder is small enough to buy out.

 

[95pro]

I'm guessing if it's multiple players we would waive one of them to get under the second apron. We still have an Allen trade to do. Plus waiving some of the guys like Micic, Richards and Martin because all three have non guaranteed contracts, (just two of the three would work) would get us under the second apron. Plus taking players back in a kd trade we can take less money if it's within a certain percentage. I am surprised the Suns are not waiving a couple guys, I saw Micic supposedly is signing with a team overseas as soon as possible.

The Suns might be waiting to see if they might need their contracts to make a trade work.

Their non-guaranteed contracts might be attractive.

I was thinking that too. The non-guaranteed contracts might be attractive to the teams over the second apron like us.

We can't aggregate contracts. So we would have to cut them loose before they could ever be attached to an interested team looking to take on expiring contracts.
When we cut them loose, get under the 2nd apron, we don't have anything left to aggregate except Oneal and/or Allen.

 

[Mainstreet]

We can't aggregate contracts. So we would have to cut them loose before they could ever be attached to an interested team looking to take on expiring contracts.
When we cut them loose, get under the 2nd apron, we don't have anything left to aggregate except Oneal and/or Allen.

The Suns would have to do some of the trades separately or after they get below the second tax apron.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Sham Charania weighs in on the Durant trade liking it to a game of chicken among the Rockets, Heat and Timberwolves.

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Which is why you wait for one of them to cave. No rush here.

 

[Ronin]

NBA Scout Says Teams Only Want Kevin Durant To Sell Jerseys And That He Is No Longer An Alpha Superstar

NBA scout takes a major shot at Kevin Durant amid ongoing rumors.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Ronin]

Kevin Durant Video is Going Viral Amid Trade Rumors

A video of Kevin Durant playing in a pickup basketball game years ago is going viral, with fans are marveling at the superstar's ability to maneuver past defenders and hit difficult shots.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Chaplin]

Kevin Durant Video is Going Viral Amid Trade Rumors

A video of Kevin Durant playing in a pickup basketball game years ago is going viral, with fans are marveling at the superstar's ability to maneuver past defenders and hit difficult shots.

sports.yahoo.com

That can only help the Suns.

 

[Yuma]

We can't aggregate contracts. So we would have to cut them loose before they could ever be attached to an interested team looking to take on expiring contracts.
When we cut them loose, get under the 2nd apron, we don't have anything left to aggregate except Oneal and/or Allen.

Aggregating means we can only trade one player. We can however revieve many players in return. If you trade two guys in a multi team trade, it is allowed in the second apron IF and only IF both guys trades would stand on their own, thus not aggregating players in a trade. In my quote I meant Allen in a seperate trade later to get under the second apron, not in the KD trade itself.

 

[Ronin]

John Hollinger blasts clueless Phoenix Suns as Kevin Durant trade offers get stale, 'A classic...'

Hollinger says the Suns 'don't really know' what they are doing with Kevin Durant...

nbaanalysis.net

 

[Cheesebeef]

John Hollinger blasts clueless Phoenix Suns as Kevin Durant trade offers get stale, 'A classic...'

Hollinger says the Suns 'don't really know' what they are doing with Kevin Durant...

nbaanalysis.net

Oy.

 

[Yuma]

John Hollinger blasts clueless Phoenix Suns as Kevin Durant trade offers get stale, 'A classic...'

Hollinger says the Suns 'don't really know' what they are doing with Kevin Durant...

nbaanalysis.net

I think it's OK to not get anything for KD, If you are going to make a horrible trade for someone like Bradley Beal, or another guy with a longer contract you are just "settling" for so you don't end up empty handed. Future flexibility should be the goal here. People are knocking the Suns for asking for too much. Isn't that how you negotiate? Also, sometimes that's how a Gobert, Bridges, or Desmond Bane gets done. Ask for the world. If you don't ask, you don't get, right? New Jersey asked for the world from us, and they got it. Why should we ask for less to start with?