Draft Positioning Week 16

[GatorAZ]

1/10th of a point. C’mon!
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[TheCardFan]

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[DVontel]

1/10th of a point. C’mon!
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I really wish Tennessee played Indy during their falloff.

 

[GatorAZ]

Afternoon games:

We are rooting for the Raiders because they’ve played TEN

We are rooting for Chicago vs SF

Neither the Cards/Titans have played BUF/PHI

 

[cardpa]

I have a gut feeling the Browns are going to upset the Steelers. Those AFC North games are always a tossup no matter a team's record.

Guess my gut feeling was right. I'm sure Stout loves this one. I loathe the Steelers.

 

[Harry]

Guess my gut feeling was right. I'm sure Stout loves this one. I loathe the Steelers.

Good call

 

[football karma]

the best bet for one of the 3 win teams to win is NYG vs Dallas

the Giants are at home, Kafka is trying to nail down being the permanent HC and they have their QB.

 

[Harry]

The best part of a Giant win is it kills trade options

 

[WisconsinCard]

How about trade the #5 pick, MHJ and next years 2nd

Would that be enough to get the #1 pick and would the Giants do it?

Not even close. I doubt you could move up one spot for that

 

[TheCardFan]

What do we think about Rueben Bain?

How are we feeling about Bain now?

 

[football karma]

How are we feeling about Bain now?

he sure looked the part against good competition

Harry can speak to this but I believe some NFL teams have floors on certain measurables to be drafted early --

its possible that, for example, if the Titans have a philosophy that says Bains arm length is below the minimum measurable for an edge player they put him in round 2 and therefor pass on him early

 

[oaken1]

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thats 1/1000th of a point

 

[Russ Smith]

How are we feeling about Bain now?

Smith the WR was the best player and prospect in that game IMO but he's a soph and not coming out.

Been saying it for awhile. We need to fix RT and we need other help but we just need good players and IMO Bain is the guy who if there would make a big immediate impact. He plays both the run and rushes the QB, he's the right age and he's a guy who can get better too. I only saw the first half clearly, 2nd half we were eating at a restaurant and it was on the tv behind us so off and on I saw it but as I said in the other thread Bain wrecked TOSU's offense in the first half and the entire 2nd half was designed on where is Bain double him or move the pocket away from him. Akheem is good too but he's getting sacks because the OL is so worried about Bain. There was a play in the 2nd half that they showed a replay on to show good Bain is, he beat a double then chased down the play to the sideline and helped on the tackle there

Put Bain on the opposite side of Sweat with Nolen at some point healthy and some other pieces you've got a chance to have a good defense.

I wasn't impressed or put off by Mauigoa he is about where I thought he was I think he's 10-15 guy. Again limited viewing I thought Reese probably hurt himself last night he made some plays had some tackles but very little impact didn't make any big plays when needed. I thought Styles underwhelmed I know he's a converted safety and he's big so it's not lack of size he just looks like a guy who hasn't played that much LB he plays way too high. They showed a stat that said he hadn't had a missed tackle all year and I had to laugh, in that very game in the first quarter he had the RB lined up in the hole and met him one on one and got knocked on his butt as the RB got another 5 yards they showed the replay over and over praising the tough running. If that's not a missed tackle what is? Mesidor probably helped himself, he needs to get stronger but he's fast.

If you can get Bain in the first round and there's no QB we are sold on and no RT worth the pick I think you take Bain. If you think Fano is the RT you take him. My fear is we're going to go in saying we HAVE to have a QB and we're going to reach

 

[Chopper0080]

The more and more I watch of David Bailey, the more and more I think he would be a great option for AZ. Fast off the ball. Nice dip. Has a spin and a rip. Plays with violence. Great production. EDGE is a really important position, and the Cardinals could use an actual rush threat opposite of Sweat.

He is showing out in this game

 

[football karma]

The more and more I watch of David Bailey, the more and more I think he would be a great option for AZ. Fast off the ball. Nice dip. Has a spin and a rip. Plays with violence. Great production. EDGE is a really important position, and the Cardinals could use an actual rush threat opposite of Sweat.

he is also a bit different than Sweat style wise: lighter with more speed than Josh, but still plenty of physicality

first time ive gotten to watch him and there is lots to really like there

 

[slanidrac16]

he is also a bit different than Sweat style wise: lighter with more speed than Josh, but still plenty of physicality

first time ive gotten to watch him and there is lots to really like there

Still the first half and I’ve heard his name called about 10 times.

 

[GatorAZ]

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[football karma]

btw: LB Jacob Rodriguez of TT is also really good

the kind of high IQ, high motor MLB the defense could use

 

[Denny Green Fan]

Smith the WR was the best player and prospect in that game IMO but he's a soph and not coming out.

Been saying it for awhile. We need to fix RT and we need other help but we just need good players and IMO Bain is the guy who if there would make a big immediate impact. He plays both the run and rushes the QB, he's the right age and he's a guy who can get better too. I only saw the first half clearly, 2nd half we were eating at a restaurant and it was on the tv behind us so off and on I saw it but as I said in the other thread Bain wrecked TOSU's offense in the first half and the entire 2nd half was designed on where is Bain double him or move the pocket away from him. Akheem is good too but he's getting sacks because the OL is so worried about Bain. There was a play in the 2nd half that they showed a replay on to show good Bain is, he beat a double then chased down the play to the sideline and helped on the tackle there

Put Bain on the opposite side of Sweat with Nolen at some point healthy and some other pieces you've got a chance to have a good defense.

I wasn't impressed or put off by Mauigoa he is about where I thought he was I think he's 10-15 guy. Again limited viewing I thought Reese probably hurt himself last night he made some plays had some tackles but very little impact didn't make any big plays when needed. I thought Styles underwhelmed I know he's a converted safety and he's big so it's not lack of size he just looks like a guy who hasn't played that much LB he plays way too high. They showed a stat that said he hadn't had a missed tackle all year and I had to laugh, in that very game in the first quarter he had the RB lined up in the hole and met him one on one and got knocked on his butt as the RB got another 5 yards they showed the replay over and over praising the tough running. If that's not a missed tackle what is? Mesidor probably helped himself, he needs to get stronger but he's fast.

If you can get Bain in the first round and there's no QB we are sold on and no RT worth the pick I think you take Bain. If you think Fano is the RT you take him. My fear is we're going to go in saying we HAVE to have a QB and we're going to reach

Can’t see Bain getting past the titans and giants… but would be a good pick if we don’t go Simpson or o line…..just make sure Monti asks him “ have you ever had calf problems?”

 

[football karma]

Can’t see Bain getting past the titans and giants

Titans yes, but the Giants have Abdul Carter, Brian Burns and Kayvon Thibodeaux

 

[Russ Smith]

Can’t see Bain getting past the titans and giants… but would be a good pick if we don’t go Simpson or o line…..just make sure Monti asks him “ have you ever had calf problems?”

I'm hoping the Giants trade down with someone who wants a QB and then take Reese but yeah I'm not saying for sure Bain will be there.

 

[HairZach]

Titans yes, but the Giants have Abdul Carter, Brian Burns and Kayvon Thibodeaux

I dont think they're keeping Thib long term.

 

[Harry]

he sure looked the part against good competition

Harry can speak to this but I believe some NFL teams have floors on certain measurables to be drafted early --

its possible that, for example, if the Titans have a philosophy that says Bains arm length is below the minimum measurable for an edge player they put him in round 2 and therefor pass on him early

Figure the Jets & Raiders go QB. That leaves the Giants & Titans. Don’t be shocked if the Giants win Sunday. If not the most likely scenario to get Bain is if the Jets assume Cards are going QB. That only happens if Simpson & Moore come out. The Cards would trade up to the Giants pick and grab Bain. All that shuffling doesn’t change that the Titans need an Edge. I can’t imagine any way the Titans pass on Bain if he’s on the board when they pick.

 

[Harry]

he is also a bit different than Sweat style wise: lighter with more speed than Josh, but still plenty of physicality

first time ive gotten to watch him and there is lots to really like there

Only if they move down.