Discussion in 'NAU and All Non-Arizona College Sports' started by Ronin, Sep 29, 2017.
Mixed reports some are saying the players could be there for a month or longer, some are saying they could be home in much less time.
CNN is actually reporting that Trump is trying to intervene, and they are showing the same pic of Jalen Hill, not the right kid. The one in Texas must be pretty annoyed they're putting him on tv.
They apparently all admitted to stealing "high end" sunglasses so at LV that could be 1000 bucks each.
Lots of innuendo they will be at best suspended for a year and more likely expelled.
The Ball factor magnifies the situation but they're also deflecting the attention off UCLA. If it were just Riley and Smith it would be solely on Alford and the program. Hopefully these guys can avoid a serious sentences but it pretty much cuts ties with the Ball family since Gelo will get kicked out and Melo will never be eligible.
It depends. The current thinking is the kids are being fast tracked, they're already on bail and given the current situation with Trump there and the countries working together it appears the kids won't be there too long.
I still think expulsion is highly possible, this is a huge deal for UCLA and the Pac 12, UCLA has a huge base of Chinese students so these 3 couldn't have picked a worse place to do this. The UCLA kids are taking midterms while they're there, apparently they're going to be allowed to do that still so they won't be academically ineligible because of this. They're in a hotel that will have to be paid for and there's some discussion if the families can't afford to pay(Hill and Riley clearly lavar can) then UCLA would have to pay and that would be impermissible benefits and the kids would be ineligible.
In that scenario Gelo is actually the most likely of the 3 to stay at UCLA since he has the means to pay for the fines and hotel bills.
as for Melo over the last several years I've heard so many times a certain kid will never be eligible and they are, this year alone Ayton, Bagley, and Duval were all in that position and all qualified. The NCAA has very clearly said Melo has not in any way currently violated amateur status, he's a good student, and if they want him to play college ball he could. The irony is the assumption has been if he skips college, he'll probably go play in China!
now if UCLA WANTS out of the Ball family, this certainly gives them an out.
The general impression you get on UCLA sites is there's considerable push to at a minimum suspend all 3 for the year and many want them outright expelled. Larry Scott can't be happy he's got 2 schools front and center in the FBI scandal and now UCLA has 3 kids arrested in China, there's no way UCLA is going to go easy on these kids. If they do, the conference might step in and suspend them longer.
ANybody familiar with the Terez Owens site? Never heard of it but he's claiming Jalen Hill stole a pair of glasses, Ball and Riley were just there and had no idea Hill had taken them, but since all 3 were in the store on video, all 3 were arrested. Doesn't seem to mesh with the claim they confessed
we're hearing on UCLA boards it's probably less than 20 days but I don't think anybody really knows.
If the version that says Hill stole 1 pair of glasses and the others were just there is true, it seems like maybe he'll be there 20 days and the other 2 get home sooner.
But I don't think anybody in the US really knows the truth yet.
Coach K does it the "right way".
Unreal how much talent Duke has now.
This morning there was a claim, on ESPN radio, that there is video of them shoplifting at 3 stores in that mall.
BTW, saw a video shot of LaVar in the stands at the China game. Wonder who paid for his trip? Did the other parents get the same deal if so. AAU money?
Bill Walton apologizes 'on behalf of the human race' for UCLA players involved in shoplifting incident
“I am sad, disappointed and embarrassed. This is a very big deal. The noble purpose here has been stained. Our host, Alibaba China, the people, they have been better than perfect in everything. They’ve done everything right to make this all work. Now, members of our family have displayed an appalling lack of honor, lack of respect, lack of decency by doing something in someone else’s home that they would never do in their own. And I want to apologize right now on behalf of the human race for this travesty.”
Yeah if that story is true about multiple stores I don't think any of these 3 will play for UCLA at all this year, if ever. Huge difference between 1 kid at 1 store and 3 kids at 3 stores, that's premeditation and you have to sit them out for at least this year if that turns out to be true.
Lavar has money, and lavar formed his own AAU team for his sons he didn't really take shoe company money they played largely a local schedule. Lavar now has a reality show(on Facebook) and he's got his own shoe company deal so he can afford to go to China.
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