I guess we will keep seeing comments like this until HE retires.
Assuming Brissett is the Best QB Option
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Chopper0080
2021 - Prove It
And yet, none of the young or other players on the team could beat Tomlinson out for starting snaps. Dalvin had 1 less sack and 8 less tackles than Baron Browning on the year. 7th on the defensive roster in snaps played at 48.43%. Tops amongst EDGE and other DL player.
Maybe Roy Lopez can replace that snap share and production but his backup is Billings who is terrible. At best you are break even at the NT spot, equally bad at the backup, and still don't have a replacement for CC.
Maybe Mack Wilson stays healthy. He has played the most snaps per game in AZ than he has anywhere else in his career except his rookie year. I hope he can handle the workload. The Cardinals still have the same talent around him that they did last year with the exception of ADG. ADG wasn't good, and we will see if Jack Gibbens can hold off Cody Simon and Pappoe.
i think simon turns the corner this season
Chopper0080
2021 - Prove It
Maybe. I would just rather see that by him beating out a starting level player vs begin a default option who hopefully steps up. It's an issue I have with most of the roster.
OP
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Don’t see it this way
Ojulari - had the worst knee injury possible. He had a decent rookie year. Not sure it can be rehabbed, but Cards must think it’s possible.
Collier - adequate second line player
Thomas - another decent depth player
SMB - was once an outstanding slot corner, might surprise everyone
Wilson - was having an exceptional year before he was hurt, his type of defense
Stout
A handful of fairy tales from the story bag...
I fall on Chopper's side on this. If you think he's overly pessimistic, this is on the opposite side on the optimism train. With reality probably in the middle (IMO shaded to Chopper's POV), it ain't good for our defense.
kerouac9
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This is all fine; doesn’t charge the fact that there aren’t enough front line players for this defense to move up to average.
Collier has had one healthy season here in three chances.
Chopper0080
2021 - Prove It
Lots of depth and no starters.
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What if, a team were build entirely of underbelly?
kerouac9
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this was literally the recipe that brought us the 2023 Cardinals defense that was 31st in scoring and 25th in yardage but had “no quit” or something.
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Such a strange schedule this year. Only 3 home games in the first nine i think. Pretty much every game during that period is against playoff teams from last year.
I guess things could be interesting if by some miracle the team is 4-5 or even 3-6 going into the second half of schedule with many homes games and perhaps "easier" opponents.
I guess things could be interesting if by some miracle the team is 4-5 or even 3-6 going into the second half of schedule with many homes games and perhaps "easier" opponents.
Stout
A handful of fairy tales from the story bag...
Delete this. We have a thread dedicated to Kyler and nothing should be about him elsewhere.
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Wow, a lot more optimism than I was expecting.
The defense will be horrific. Not only is it less talented than it was going into last season they kept the DC that the players quit on last year.
Offense... We are going to have a bad QB situation, probably the worst in the NFL, going into the season.
Bad defense.... Bad QB play... The inevitable injuries in camp and early in the season.
I think 0 to 2 wins total. It's really, really difficult to go winless but this team has the chance to do it. The most wildly optimistic outcome I have is 4 wins with 2 of them coming in the division.
The defense will be horrific. Not only is it less talented than it was going into last season they kept the DC that the players quit on last year.
Offense... We are going to have a bad QB situation, probably the worst in the NFL, going into the season.
Bad defense.... Bad QB play... The inevitable injuries in camp and early in the season.
I think 0 to 2 wins total. It's really, really difficult to go winless but this team has the chance to do it. The most wildly optimistic outcome I have is 4 wins with 2 of them coming in the division.
OP
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So he’s due?
Lots of subjective opinions and present them as factual. It's pretty common here, if someone asks questions or heaven forbid questions, people pile on
So ...
'LJ Collier - fringe roster player', maybe, what do you mean by fringe
'Nolen - played 7 games for a league worst defense' This clearly a false statement. Were they good no, but the worst, not even close by the stats I've found they rank 27-30 depending on the stat. Is this good heck no but the worst is hyperbole at the best most charitable reading.
'Mack Wilson - Journeyman ILB. Defense did dip when he was out. Unclear if he can overcome the other deficiencies.' Nicely unspecific so impossible to refute. What other deficiencies ?
Stout
A handful of fairy tales from the story bag...
For those that think this defense is going to be anything more than bottom third--at best--I feel for you.
gimpy
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Keep feeling for me, Stout. I'm hoping for the best for MY team.
Stout
A handful of fairy tales from the story bag...
Like I'm not? Clueless statement. I'm ALWAYS hoping for the best for my team. I'm also a realist about MY team's chances.
Flip it around. How do YOU think our D will do?
I would say ''better than expected''.
Stout
A handful of fairy tales from the story bag...
I wish I could share that optimism, as guarded as it is, but I can't see where it's coming from. The roster looks worse, IMO, and we have the same coach. Not throwing shade on your opinion, though I'm honestly curious: What is better than expected and how do you get there?
Better than the bottom third & closer to average.
Krangodnzr
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I would say, not that I agree with this sentiment, most of what the roster was last season didn't really play much together.
As disastrous as Gannon and Co were, you have to also consider that the Cardinals were literally the 2nd most injured team of this century. Pretty crazy that if you do the math, that's over 750 teams that were considering.
Throw in a Big John (Love), a possible big time playmaker on offense, and yes, the team could be better. My biggest doubt is the front seven because they are relying on some from a motley crew to step up and be better.
