Adam Schein's Take on Cardinals Win

[GatorAZ]

Palmer is the starter when healthy.

So Stanton is the starter.

 

[oaken1]

anyone else consider we are perhaps witnessing the countdown to Logan Thomas?....


seems all the rage these days to have your young mobile QB come in mid season and lead your team to the playoffs............

 

[WisconsinCard]

Two words Scott Mitchell. It's only two games. The NFL weeds out those who can play from those who can't. Heart is awesome but it's not even most important. I wouldn't say Montana had heart really at all. I would say in his prime there is no QB I would rather put money on.

Good point, now the other teams have some film on the dude, lets see how he does. I am not ready to annoint him yet but, he's got my attention.

 

[Iceman]

The defense is feeding off the offense as well as playing lights off. Love this team right now because there are NO individuals. Arians has these guys playing for each other and they are playing for him. The Super Bowl team wasn't ran by Whisenhunt, it was Warner. Now we have a top notch coach that these players would do anything for. Very disciplined and we rarely see a 15 yd unsportsmanlike penalties, like the punks we just played. Can't ask for 3 better coaches in this state than Arians, Graham and Rodriguez. Arizona sports are starting to be put on the map.... It's great to be an Arizonan

 

[CardNots]

anyone else consider we are perhaps witnessing the countdown to Logan Thomas?....


seems all the rage these days to have your young mobile QB come in mid season and lead your team to the playoffs............

When I saw thomas on the sideline warming up, I had warming in my pants like I crapped em

No thanks

 

[devilalum]

Drew Stanton must remain Cardinals' QB over Carson Palmer
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...n-must-remain-cardinals-qb-over-carson-palmer

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[Chaz]

All this Stanton love is recency bias. All the things people love about Stanton (running to keep the drive alive, no turnovers, toughness) is the same thing Palmer has already demonstrated this year.

 

[BillsCarnage]

hottake or not, this is fairly impressive

turning in the first interception-free/sack-free complete game by a Cardinals quarterback in four years.

 

[devilalum]

hottake or not, this is fairly impressive

turning in the first interception-free/sack-free complete game by a Cardinals quarterback in four years.

Solid defense and mistake free offense have been the formula for many championship teams.

 

[GatorAZ]

There is no controversy. One of them can't throw let alone grip a football. The game vs Denver's defense will be telling.

 

[Carolinacacti]

More then a hand full of QB's could take this team to the playoffs. Good Offensive line with weapons at all positions and good defense makes for a good team.
I do like Drew and Bruce all mighty. Palmer will return and we will hope the turnovers do not return with him.

 

[THESMEL]

Pump the brakes! Sun Schein - I thought Logan Thomas was about to enter a couple times!

 

[8ndkorner]

All I know is, I'm a lot happier with the Stanton/Palmer QB controversy than the DA/Max Hall/Skelton debate...

Bert, I'm here to hear you. If you must have a controversy I for one am glad that this year it's "Why are we undefeated? Why are we playing well?

 

[PACardsFan]

I have been saying this for the last 24 hours.

I have seen what I needed to from Drew Stanton at this point. HAs anyone seen him throw into coverage in two games. Palmer does that 3-4 times A GAME. I really like Palmer but we dont need to sling the ball 50 times to win. We have a complete team.

Which is why the guy who doesnt turn over the ball, can pick up the first down with his feet when needed, AND do about a 80% impression of the big play down field throws Palmer makes that WOW you.

This seems silly right now. But I actually think this will become a #hottertake as time goes on.

Think you guys are underselling Stanton. And I actually like Palmer more than most. But we lose that game yesterday with him as I see AT LEAST 1 Niners INT that completly changes the game. I dont think BA will make the change but Im shocked its less talked about and seen as inevitable that Palmer takes back over.

Credit to BA on that. In Arians I trust but I think Stanton is better than people are giving him credit for.

I never thought I'd remotely agree with the idea of playing Stanton over Palmer, but 0 turnovers make the Cardinals a very difficult team to beat. Palmer will always be prone to turnovers, it's in his DNA. Now don't get me wrong, Stanton may very well start turning over the ball too. But if he played like he has the last 2 weeks, his style may be exactly what will make the Cardinals a very tough out. BA's first words as HC - The Cardinals won't beat the Cardinals. Not sure Palmer fits into that mold. Stanton may??? I have an open mind right now.

 

[TRW]

Maybe. We'll see.

 

[TJ]

Quarterback one-hit wonders:

• Scott Mitchell
• Derek Anderson
• Mark Rypien
• Rob Johnson
• Jay Fiedler
• Kevin Kolb

The list goes on.

Let's not get too excited about one decent performance. Palmer is the more accomplished, proven QB and Stanton is still a a relative unknown. In addition to which, if you bench Palmer, it's for good. Palmer quit on both the Bengals and Raiders, so his loyalty to teams only goes so far. Even if Stanton struggles, Palmer would jump ship at the end of the season and we'd be stuck with Logan Thomas.

 

[CardLogic]

Two words Scott Mitchell. It's only two games. The NFL weeds out those who can play from those who can't. Heart is awesome but it's not even most important. I wouldn't say Montana had heart really at all. I would say in his prime there is no QB I would rather put money on.

Joe Cool, huh? Yeah, right!

You don't win time and time again in the biggest games, the highest pressure situations, without heart. Montana played with plenty of heart. HUGE heart!

 

[ajcardfan]

Joe Cool, huh? Yeah, right!

You don't win time and time again in the biggest games, the highest pressure situations, without heart. Montana played with plenty of heart. HUGE heart!

Yeah, I cannot believe anyone would question Montana's heart.

I remember the game against the Oilers when Montana was in KC and he took multiple shots that would be called personal fouls today. Straight up, the Oilers were doing everything they could to hurt him and get him out of the game. The Houston DC? Buddy Ryan. Montana humiliated Ryan's defense in that game.

 

[slinslin]

Stanton was not very good.

The good thing he did was not throwing interceptions but other than that his completion % is bad. The interceptions will likely come soon.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Stanton is playing just (barely) well enough not to lose. If not for those personal fouls on the 9ers, we might have seen a different outcome. I love what Stanton has done. Love his guts and who knows, maybe some day he'll get his chance to be a starter in the NFL. But it won't be for the Cards. The Cards are paying Palmer to be their starter, period... And I am totally OK with that! People claim, wrongly of course, that Palmer wouldn't have won the game against the 9ers... But I would more confidently say that Stanton would not have won the game against the Chargers.


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[PACardsFan]

Quarterback one-hit wonders:

• Scott Mitchell
• Derek Anderson
• Mark Rypien
• Rob Johnson
• Jay Fiedler
• Kevin Kolb

The list goes on.

Let's not get too excited about one decent performance. Palmer is the more accomplished, proven QB and Stanton is still a a relative unknown. In addition to which, if you bench Palmer, it's for good. Palmer quit on both the Bengals and Raiders, so his loyalty to teams only goes so far. Even if Stanton struggles, Palmer would jump ship at the end of the season and we'd be stuck with Logan Thomas.

Agree with your premise, but you need to take Mark Rypien off your list. The dude played about 10 years in the NFL. Played in multiple playoff games, was a SB MVP, & 2 time pro bowler. He's in the Redskins wall of fame, which is no small feat.

 

[Chaz]

Stanton was not very good.

The good thing he did was not throwing interceptions but other than that his completion % is bad. The interceptions will likely come soon.

IMO his completion % was bad because he didn't force it.
Some of his misses were deliberate.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

What? Stanton threw the ball up for grabs a couple of times yesterday.

Youll have to show me as I didnt see it. With Palmer there are 3 throws a a game that should be or are picked. I never felt that way with Stanton. I think its fair to say he understands the offense better than Palmer and thats expected with a full year longer in the system.

I dont think its time to make sweeping proclamations just yet but A) I liked what I saw and B) we may not have a choice in the matter till we better understand what the issue is.

My point is I dont think Schiens take is off base and more importantly im astounded there is less talk about the possibility. Credit goes to Arians. With Wisenhunt Stanton would havebeen named the starter only to have 2 bad series and Logan comes in

 

[kerouac9]

Youll have to show me as I didnt see it. With Palmer there are 3 throws a a game that should be or are picked. I never felt that way with Stanton. I think its fair to say he understands the offense better than Palmer and thats expected with a full year longer in the system.

I dont think its time to make sweeping proclamations just yet but A) I liked what I saw and B) we may not have a choice in the matter till we better understand what the issue is.

My point is I dont think Schiens take is off base and more importantly im astounded there is less talk about the possibility. Credit goes to Arians. With Wisenhunt Stanton would havebeen named the starter only to have 2 bad series and Logan comes in

There was one attempt to Fitz I think to close the first half where Fitz was alone and surrounded by literally 5 49er defenders.

 

[Russ Smith]

I suspect he probably will throw less picks than Palmer in a normal year but he had 2 flat out dropped Sunday and a 3rd that could have easily been picked(was tipped up in the air but luckily nobody was there to catch it).

That happens to NFL QB's every week but there's an element of luck to it too. the one at the end of the half was 100% luck, he threw it right to a LB he never saw and the guy dropped it.