2025 4th round pick is Cody Simon LB

[Goldfield]

From a Cards perspective, I think ceiling is Ronald McKinnon. Floor is Buster Davis.

These are both floor examples

 

[SECTION 11]

I always liked McKinnon. Dude gave everything he had.

 

[ajcardfan]

I always liked McKinnon. Dude gave everything he had.

He played 11 years in the NFL. He did okay for himself with the talent he had.

 

[BACH]

These are both floor examples

I don't see much difference between McKinnon and White TBH.

Great effort guys.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

He played 11 years in the NFL. He did okay for himself with the talent he had.

Right? 11 years being a 4th round pick? Any team would snatch your hand off to get a 11 year career from a 4th round pick.

 

[Buckybird]

Right? 11 years being a 4th round pick? Any team would snatch your hand off to get a 11 year career from a 4th round pick.

He was actually a FA

 

[dreamcastrocks]

He was actually a FA

I'm not sure I follow. We were comparing an 11 year career of Ronald McKinnon with our 4th round pick. Who was the FA, and more importantly, why does that matter?

 

[Goldfield]

I don't see much difference between McKinnon and White TBH.

Great effort guys.

Good point

 

[Goldfield]

I always liked McKinnon. Dude gave everything he had.

Yup it was mostly a joke

 

[Chopper0080]

My concerns with Simon are:
He’s not all that big or fast.
He couldn’t get on the field for 4 years.
He was not a focal point of the other team because of all the DL talent around him. Which allowed him to roam free.

My likes about him.
He’s a great guy and leader and a hard worker. If he’s successful, he’ll be a team captain.
Had a very good year.
James Lauranaitis was promoted to LB coach this past year and I think they have similar profiles(even though James was much more productive)so maybe the light from coaching went on and he’ll continue to improve.

From a Cards perspective, I think ceiling is Ronald McKinnon. Floor is Buster Davis.

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[ASUCHRIS]

getting cut coming out of his first training camp

thats quite the floor. Is there a lower floor, absent a felony?

Cody Brown was almost worse than Buster because he was a 2nd rounder.

 

[Krangodnzr]

It's telling that NO team has signed Kyzir White.

 

[kerouac9]

It's telling that NO team has signed Kyzir White.

Telling of what?

 

[Krangodnzr]

Telling of what?

I don't know Mr. Obtuse, you tell me.

 

[BirdGangThing]

I don't know Mr. Obtuse, you tell me.

are you saying he wants too much or nobody wants him?

 

[Krangodnzr]

are you saying he wants too much or nobody wants him?

Maybe both?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I refuse to believe we're better without him, especially if he signs for 4m or less. Even if other guys outperform him, he's still a useful piece who would get snaps.

 

[BACH]

Telling of what?

Couple of things…

Telling that the league doesn’t believe he is as good as many on this board.

Telling that perhaps White is out-marketing himself

Telling that you were completely in the wrong when you decided to ridicule and be condescending towards posters saying White wasn’t that good.

Telling that run stuffing ILB are run of the mill.

 

[SECTION 11]

is discounting linebackers that can play the run a good idea in this particular temperament / trajectory of the pro game? I would have to think no.
Additionally, I’m not doing a damn bit of research on it. So suck it.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

He played 11 years in the NFL. He did okay for himself with the talent he had.

That's a top 5% career.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

It's telling that NO team has signed Kyzir White.

It's probably about the cost

 

[BACH]

It's probably about the cost

Absolutely. And relative cost.

IMO solid run stopping ILB is the easiest position to find in the league.

If you can get about the same with a 4th round rookie for 1/4 of the cost.

 

[BritCard]

It's probably about the cost

I doubt he's hanging on to his price target this late in the game.