Both Riller and Bane remind me of the kind of guys who would have been nice late first round sleepers... back in the 1980s. Riller is kind of a Jay Humphries type, and Bane reminds me of Blue Edwards. And both of those guys had decent careers... way back in the 1980s. I'm just not sure that either is going to be quite as effective as those guys in this NBA era, with such an increased emphasis on pure athleticism. Again, maybe the kinds of guys you can take a flyer on in the early second or very late first round and hope for the best. But not as lotto picks - no way.