Charmin Marvin Harrison Jr Thread

[Shane]

idk where you're going with the name thing lol but kyler is a quitter - mhj is a young receiver finding his way - really simple - if you wanna talk mhj that's who post was about

I mean, I’m pretty sure we’ve all seen him quit on routes…. And run them lazy as hell I’m not sure there’s much difference. But if “finding his way” is a way for you to excuse it. More power to you. Should’ve hit the ground running from day one full speed nothing half ass.

 

[Zalixar]

I mean, I’m pretty sure we’ve all seen him quit on routes…. And run them lazy as hell I’m not sure there’s much difference. But if “finding his way” is a way for you to excuse it. More power to you. Should’ve hit the ground running from day one full speed nothing half ass.

I'm a whole ass man myself. Do it right or not at all.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

I mean, I’m pretty sure we’ve all seen him quit on routes…. And run them lazy as hell I’m not sure there’s much difference. But if “finding his way” is a way for you to excuse it. More power to you. Should’ve hit the ground running from day one full speed nothing half ass.

yeah because those two things are totally the same shane - right - refusing to suit up because the backup qb took your job and easing up on a route when you don't have confidence in kyler getting you the ball - same thing

 

[some dumb guy]

The cope is big in you…. Keep it up

Obi-Wan Shaneobi...

 

[WisconsinCard]

Many of the passes were thrown exactly to the spot where the receiver should have been, but Harrison runs sloppy routes so he wasn't where he should've been and thus the ball wasn't as easy to catch

I completely agree and I would hope the coaches were/are all over his entitled "astronaut" for it too.

 

[WisconsinCard]

it's wild when folks take the tiniest of sample sizes and use it to write opinions in concrete

i think wilson is the clear #1 - i was saying that last year - he and brissett have a real connection - i think wilson has learned to get open right after brissett looks for mcbride - if mcbride isn't open brissett sees wilson with separation

mhj is still figuring things out - period - but that doesn't make a bum - having an off day in preseason doesn't make mhh a bum - but everybody just can't help themselves when they see a 30 second clip on twitter lol

mhj has made some nice catches but they're ignored - wilson's had drops that somehow never make it twitter - they're there but we'll just act like mhj hasn't caught anything because... it feels good?

i haven't seen mhj quit on any routes in camp - have you? he was notorious for it when kyler was behind center but not since brissett's been the guy

my biggest knock on mhj is as follows - i think he is (hopefully was) afraid to go over the middle - afraid of the nfl level contact - heard footsteps - that got in his head and then the drops came - some were flat out unjustifiable

so for me it's quitting on routes (pre-brissett) and dropping crucial catches during critical parts of the game - aka choking in the big moment

yeah i said it - he chokes - not just across the middle but whenever he thinks too much

but i'm pretty sure he's going to run every route like he's the #1 this year - like he knows the ball is coming to him - thing is - if we're running 12 personnel lafleur doesn't want the typical #1 and a #2 anyways - he wants two completely different options on the field

all mhj has to do is stay out of his own head this year - yall can put him on bum status but i'm going to wait and watch him play in some actual games with this new offense- call me kool-aid because i couldn't care less about the buffness

if it makes him stronger and more confident than wtf - and i don't care about some viral ass training camp drops with a qb who just showed up this week - attention shoppers - we have a content season clickbait special on aisle 3

here's my hot take - it's not really hot tho - i'd say less documented - marv wasn't healthy during brissett's takeover - this will be marv's first year with a real qb - and he won't be seeing double teams - not with defenses trying to stop mcwilove from going viral

i see mhj as being the obvious frontrunner for most improved on offense - i see a break out year

wilson wants to get paid and showcase himself as top shelf this season - if wilson is able to accomplish his goals it means mhj will be all kinds of open

1,000 yard season incoming - if you call that a disappointment on a team with mcwilove idk what to tell you - i'd call that a fantastic contribution

I don't disagree with you here. He's only a bum (I'd say disappointment) if you look at his draft position, and who was taken after him.

 

[Shane]

I don't disagree with you here. He's only a bum (I'd say disappointment) if you look at his draft position, and who was taken after him.

You forgot HUGE in front of disappointment

 

[AZTex]

The counter is Mike is where he's supposed to be when he's supposed to be there and Marv isn't so the accuracy of the throws are in part on Marv

That's fair, but if you look closely (small sample size) there are two things to consider: 1) some of the throws are from staff guys and not QBs so the quality and placement of the throws is not consistent and 2) it seems that Marv and Wilson run the same routes a bit differently. With the first Marv miss, it's pretty obvious that Marv is trying to simulate an inside move to set up the phantom defender and then cut the route to the sideline. Wilson does NOT do this causing the difference in timing being quicker to the sideline. This is not a hands thing. We just don't know what these receivers are working on, whether it's their steps, route speed and places for acceleration, moves, etc. All I'm saying is that it seems someone is trying to make Marv look bad and they were very selective in the examples they chose.

 

[Shane]

That's fair, but if you look closely (small sample size) there are two things to consider: 1) some of the throws are from staff guys and not QBs so the quality and placement of the throws is not consistent and 2) it seems that Marv and Wilson run the same routes a bit differently. With the first Marv miss, it's pretty obvious that Marv is trying to simulate an inside move to set up the phantom defender and then cut the route to the sideline. Wilson does NOT do this causing the difference in timing being quicker to the sideline. This is not a hands thing. We just don't know what these receivers are working on, whether it's their steps, route speed and places for acceleration, moves, etc. All I'm saying is that it seems someone is trying to make Marv look bad and they were very selective in the examples they chose.

Marv looks bad enough on his own he dont need help.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

.This is not a hands thing. .

What?

How many have bounced off his hands?

How many has he tried to body catch and didn't catch it?

It all starts and ends with the hands

 

[Stout]

Lmao there was definitely some people screaming Wirfs should have been the pick over Simmons.

@Chopper0080 & I was screaming that to the rooftops.

Truth.

 

[Russ Smith]

That's fair, but if you look closely (small sample size) there are two things to consider: 1) some of the throws are from staff guys and not QBs so the quality and placement of the throws is not consistent and 2) it seems that Marv and Wilson run the same routes a bit differently. With the first Marv miss, it's pretty obvious that Marv is trying to simulate an inside move to set up the phantom defender and then cut the route to the sideline. Wilson does NOT do this causing the difference in timing being quicker to the sideline. This is not a hands thing. We just don't know what these receivers are working on, whether it's their steps, route speed and places for acceleration, moves, etc. All I'm saying is that it seems someone is trying to make Marv look bad and they were very selective in the examples they chose.

Sure but it seems to me the guy who is trying to make Marv look bad, is Marv

 

[MadCardDisease]

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[oaken1]

Marvin was the right pick even if it doesn't work out.

Andre Wadsworth was the right pck.

Jonathon Cooper was the right pick.

I'll say Isaiah Simmons was the right pick.

It's the draft. Who knows how things are going to work out?
I'm sure there are people for every 1st round pick that didn't work out saying they should have drafted this guy.

That's the way it is. Marvin may be meh, but he was worthy of where he was drafted.

every single guy in the draft is just a "Prospect" and every inch of their value is a projection.

just really wish we would start projecting in IMAX for a few drafts......siiiiigh......

 

[Lefty]

Do you guys think Harrison can still be the #1 receiver or will Wilson be that guy?

 

[oaken1]

I'm a whole ass man myself. Do it right or not at all.

im not slow
Im not fast
Im half fast.......

 

[WisconsinCard]

That's fair, but if you look closely (small sample size) there are two things to consider: 1) some of the throws are from staff guys and not QBs so the quality and placement of the throws is not consistent and 2) it seems that Marv and Wilson run the same routes a bit differently. With the first Marv miss, it's pretty obvious that Marv is trying to simulate an inside move to set up the phantom defender and then cut the route to the sideline. Wilson does NOT do this causing the difference in timing being quicker to the sideline. This is not a hands thing. We just don't know what these receivers are working on, whether it's their steps, route speed and places for acceleration, moves, etc. All I'm saying is that it seems someone is trying to make Marv look bad and they were very selective in the examples they chose.

It's not just this training camp we have to go on. We've seen him in plenty of live action to form these opinions.