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Yeah… here’s the thing. Trading for a non-All Star who’s never done much to make his team better IS NOT BOLD. What makes the move bold is the fact that we willingly made a move to trade for a guy that beat his girlfriend and kid.

Taking a risk on a guy like a Zion or even a Ja would be bold. That is shooting for the stars. This is shooting yourself in the face, from an personell and PR/moral standpoint.
I don't know how you can make a claim like this when basically all we are giving up is Royce and Grayson, two guys that would have mostly been out of the rotation this year.

At best one of them was going to play regular minutes - The only question you need to ask is Bridges better than either of them - yes he is. Especially when you consider Grayson in the second half of the season could only go a few games before his knee or hip flared up and kept him out for a few games.
 

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Tough questions won't be asked in the presser. Maybe in follow up interviews. My guess is either Gregory or Ishbia will make a statement and won't entertain any questions about it.
I think it's imperative that the Suns address this. It shouldn't be up to the media to have to ask. I want to know what Bridges has been doing to work on himself and to support battered women causes. Before this move, we had a bunch of really solid, hard working guys. The Suns can't shove the DV issue under a rug. It needs to be addressed and out in the open.

There's already movements like this:

 

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I think it's imperative that the Suns address this. It shouldn't be up to the media to have to ask. I want to know what Bridges has been doing to work on himself and to support battered women causes. Before this move, we had a bunch of really solid, hard working guys. The Suns can't shove the DV issue under a rug. It needs to be addressed and out in the open.

There's already movements like this:

Oh I agree. I'm just saying what I think will happen. If they have a presser at all, that is.

I REALLY want to hear what they have to say about it.
 

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I digested this for a minute. Not the worst trade this ownership has done, but there are a few things that irritate me:

1) We'll get the DV stuff out of the way. Obviously, I dont condone DV by any means and it does make me somewhat uneasy that Bridges is on the roster. But none of us are going to stop supporting or cheering for the Suns because of this move; so let's cut out the virtue signaling unless you are truly going to burn your Suns paraphernalia, cancel your NBA package or sell your season tickets. If we win a title with Bridges, I guarantee none of you will be referencing his DV case during the championship parade. He's now on the team. Accept it. Just dont buy his jersey and dont ask for his autograph.

2) I'm concerned that we have a D'Antoni 2.0 situation on our hands. Re-signing Williams and keeping Oso is taking away from Maluach's development, and trading for Miles Bridges is impacting Fleming's and to a lesser extent, Koa's development. I dont want another coach that ignores playing young players.

3) the 2033 first didnt need to be unprotected, and if it is, this really bites.

4) This infatuation with Michigan State is a little concerning. From Izzo interviewing for the HC job to almost every staff member having Spartan ties, this is becoming one of the most nepotistic ownership teams in sports history. Unless prime Magic Johnson plans on joining, this is a distraction. $50 says that the Suns aggressively go after Jeremy Fears in the draft next season.

5) I wonder if the financial flexibility gained from this trade opens the doors to another significant move this offseason. FWIW, Flex thinks there's a shooter we're after.

6) Amidst all of the craziness, Miles is a former 20/8 guy in a contract year, so it's not like we just got a scrub. Front court athleticism and physicality were legit concerns last season. Royce and Grayson werent solving those issues.
Those guys can develop just fine. Now they are backups that need to earn minutes. We get way more flexibility not only with cap but opened up more tradable picks. I believe Green is the next one to go for maybe a PG.
 

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I think it's imperative that the Suns address this. It shouldn't be up to the media to have to ask. I want to know what Bridges has been doing to work on himself and to support battered women causes. Before this move, we had a bunch of really solid, hard working guys. The Suns can't shove the DV issue under a rug. It needs to be addressed and out in the open.

There's already movements like this:

I get it but it was a few years ago and he has been on good behavior.
 

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The Suns really did step in it quite a bit with this move. Any kind of future PR/media campaign or other sort of business (or even player related) transaction that they tout as being motivated by community interest, principle, or just "doing the right thing" is going to come off as cynical and insincere, at best.
 

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I am really going to need to hear some explanation / reassurance from the front office. I got a wife and a daughter and it made me sick telling my wife about this trade.

Also, from a basketball perspective, if you are handing a dude a multi year contract who is actively on probation and is probably a misstep from missing a significant amount of time, it just seems like all risk.
Sure but is he actively on probation or are you making up words?
 

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A bold move would have been trading for Duran, who wants out of Detroit. This isn't good for any on court reason.

This move isn't great from a basketball perspective. Maybe a push in terms of players but when throwing the picks in, Charlotte got the W. We should have milked them for something, a youngster or more draft capital.
 

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I get it but it was a few years ago and he has been on good behavior.

Good behavior? Not beating up your kids or their mom is a bit more than that. If that can't be expected of a man then I don't know. I get you're looking for a bright side of a way to justify things but some things are hard to overlook. If he wasn't a millionaire athlete then he'd like be in prison. He's 6'7" and a pro athlete, a fight between him and a woman is like your average male fighting a 10 year old. It's shameful and the damage that he did was sickening.
 

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People hated the Brooks trade and the person as well. Should be interesting to see peoples opinions if this works out and the guy comes in and produces at a position we’ve needed to be better at for years. I don’t much care about the off court issues as I feel a ton of these athletes are not so called good people off the court. People are people crap happens they pay the price and move on, we likely don’t know full stories anyway. I’ll wait and see what team they actually assemble before the season starts to judge. It’s professional sports I’m sure they have a plan seriously doubt they made this trade just to free up a little cash. I don’t think anyone just wanted to run it back after getting swept and underperforming in the playoffs. Royce and Allen had their moments but they were hardly consistently good or even available. Seems like Allen missed half the freaking season and RR was so hot and cold. Goody, Colin, Green, Brooks, Book, Flemming can all still hit 3s we don’t need to be chucking 50 a game if we have some guys that can take it to the hole or get some damn rebounds so we aren’t one and done every time down the floor. I don’t know just rambling but so many games were so frustrating when we weren’t hitting threes and seemed liked no one could create or drive besides Book or Green and if they were having a bad night it was pretty much over. Excited to see some changes and some of the development of the young guys. The west is brutal so couldn’t very well stand pat.
 

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People hated the Brooks trade and the person as well. Should be interesting to see peoples opinions if this works out and the guy comes in and produces at a position we’ve needed to be better at for years. I don’t much care about the off court issues as I feel a ton of these athletes are not so called good people off the court. People are people crap happens they pay the price and move on, we likely don’t know full stories anyway. I’ll wait and see what team they actually assemble before the season starts to judge. It’s professional sports I’m sure they have a plan seriously doubt they made this trade just to free up a little cash. I don’t think anyone just wanted to run it back after getting swept and underperforming in the playoffs. Royce and Allen had their moments but they were hardly consistently good or even available. Seems like Allen missed half the freaking season and RR was so hot and cold. Goody, Colin, Green, Brooks, Book, Flemming can all still hit 3s we don’t need to be chucking 50 a game if we have some guys that can take it to the hole or get some damn rebounds so we aren’t one and done every time down the floor. I don’t know just rambling but so many games were so frustrating when we weren’t hitting threes and seemed liked no one could create or drive besides Book or Green and if they were having a bad night it was pretty much over. Excited to see some changes and some of the development of the young guys. The west is brutal so couldn’t very well stand pat.
This is on a different level.
 

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Good behavior? Not beating up your kids or their mom is a bit more than that. If that can't be expected of a man then I don't know. I get you're looking for a bright side of a way to justify things but some things are hard to overlook. If he wasn't a millionaire athlete then he'd like be in prison. He's 6'7" and a pro athlete, a fight between him and a woman is like your average male fighting a 10 year old. It's shameful and the damage that he did was sickening.

How do you know this, the part in bold? This stuff happens more than you think, not saying it's right though.

He has served his sentence (probation). I'm not sure what people want anymore.

 

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is ish going to extend miles now during the pandemonium - and before he's actually done anything here - which might save a few million

or will ish let the heat die down and let miles bridges try and win a few fans over

i don't think we have any early bird rights or anything if we let the contract run it's course - not only that but it appears ish and gregory actually want miles here
 

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I think it's imperative that the Suns address this. It shouldn't be up to the media to have to ask. I want to know what Bridges has been doing to work on himself and to support battered women causes. Before this move, we had a bunch of really solid, hard working guys. The Suns can't shove the DV issue under a rug. It needs to be addressed and out in the open.

There's already movements like this:

i read today miles did like 52 weeks of domestic violence counseling - weekly drug tests for everything minus legally prescribed marijuana - i refuse to call this dude bridges - it's miles only for me
 

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How do you know this, the part in bold? This stuff happens more than you think, not saying it's right though.

He has served his sentence (probation). I'm not sure what people want anymore.

My sister had a stalker since high school that attacked her and her coworker at their place of business and he only spent three days in jail. So you could argue more was expected of him because he’s famous.

At the end of the day I can jam out to Michael Jackson all day but that doesn’t mean I’m gonna have him babysit my kids.
 

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My sister had a stalker since high school that attacked her and her coworker at their place of business and he only spent three days in jail. So you could argue more was expected of him because he’s famous.

At the end of the day I can jam out to Michael Jackson all day but that doesn’t mean I’m gonna have him babysit my kids.

Yes, we can separate the basketball player from the individual if we want. At least we can try.

I've seen assaults on the basketball court that go unpunished by the court system.

And to my knowledge, this is the person's only criminal act.
 

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How do you know this, the part in bold? This stuff happens more than you think, not saying it's right though.

He has served his sentence (probation). I'm not sure what people want anymore.

Interesting paragraph in that article regarding her stalking him, online, at the arena and at his house.

"These incidents occurred while Bridges was serving three years of probation following a no-contest plea in a June 2022 domestic violence case involving Johnson. As part of that sentencing, Bridges was ordered to adhere to a 10-year criminal protection order, participate in 52 weeks of domestic violence counseling, and undergo regular drug testing. While the October 2023 criminal charges were later dismissed by the Mecklenburg County Superior Court in February 2024 due to insufficient evidence, the terms of his initial probation remain in effect."

Why was there insufficient evidence? They had pictures. They had her social media posts. Did she refuse to testify? I don't get this. Was she intimidated? The behavior afterwards does not seem like she was intimidated much. She did all this while he was under a protective order to stay away from her. Did he buy her off? If so, why the stalker behavior afterwards? Its just weird.

Looks like they stalked each other at different times.
 

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How do you know this, the part in bold? This stuff happens more than you think, not saying it's right though.

He has served his sentence (probation). I'm not sure what people want anymore.


Of course i don't know that for sure but given size discrepancy and how badly injured she was, I have a hard time believing a public defender would have gotten a similar perp equal or less time. It was felony battery charges, after all. We're not talking more run of the mill domestic violence. To see zero time on a felony like that is rare.
 

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Interesting paragraph in that article regarding her stalking him, online, at the arena and at his house.

"These incidents occurred while Bridges was serving three years of probation following a no-contest plea in a June 2022 domestic violence case involving Johnson. As part of that sentencing, Bridges was ordered to adhere to a 10-year criminal protection order, participate in 52 weeks of domestic violence counseling, and undergo regular drug testing. While the October 2023 criminal charges were later dismissed by the Mecklenburg County Superior Court in February 2024 due to insufficient evidence, the terms of his initial probation remain in effect."

Why was there insufficient evidence? They had pictures. They had her social media posts. Did she refuse to testify? I don't get this. Was she intimidated? The behavior afterwards does not seem like she was intimidated much. She did all this while he was under a protective order to stay away from her. Did he buy her off? If so, why the stalker behavior afterwards? Its just weird.

Looks like they stalked each other at different times.

There were multiple incidents. The first involved her. I believe the charge that was dropped was from a second altercation where he allegedly beat the kid.
 

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Ray Rice got a 2 game suspension in the nfl for knocking his girl senseless. Then the video came out and his career was instantly over.

Yes, Bridges did his time… that said, he shouldn’t be a professional athlete anymore. If his was on video too I have little doubt his career would have ended.
 
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